Apple Notebook Event

[aphex]

Both the MacBook Pro and MacBook are .95 inches, and weight is 5.5 and 4.5 lbs, respecitvely

 

[aphex]

lol

11:01AM Q: Concern about the glossy screens. Are you going to offer another option?
A: Steve: We're going all glass -- we won't offer another version. Phil: You offset the reflection by the brightness, and consumers love it. One of the great things about a notebook is you can turn it however you want!

Yeah, nice try, but that's kind of a pain.





Reality distortion field in FULL EFFECT on that one.

 

[marketsons1985]

BTW, my favorite picture I've seen today. Everyone with their laptops.

Link

 

[EvilYoda]

Originally posted by: aphex
Both the MacBook Pro and MacBook are .95 inches, and weight is 5.5 and 4.5 lbs, respecitvely

meh, 4.5lb - no thanks. Looks like I'll be trying to make a Hackintosh out of a Lenovo X300 after all.

 

[marketsons1985]

Does the current macbook have Dual-Link DVI? Apple store is back up and there are different adapters for regular DVI and dual-link. The dual-link has an extra connector, seems to be a FW?

 

[Ns1]

so now the question is what's the best way to get one quickly and efficiently lol

 

[Agentbolt]

Originally posted by: aphex

Originally posted by: Agentbolt
Wait, are there three models of Macbook or two? I'm hearing three price points: 999, 1299, and 1599.

Three models, but only two are new. Old white macbook was dropped to $999

Wow, I'm officially pretty underwhelmed then. I see zero reason to upgrade, an LED display, better graphics, and an aluminum body aren't worth a 30% price increase for me. I guess I had somehow thought the 999 dollar price point would include these fancy schmancy aluminum ones.

 

[marketsons1985]

Originally posted by: Agentbolt

Originally posted by: aphex

Originally posted by: Agentbolt
Wait, are there three models of Macbook or two? I'm hearing three price points: 999, 1299, and 1599.

Three models, but only two are new. Old white macbook was dropped to $999

Wow, I'm officially pretty underwhelmed then. I see zero reason to upgrade, an LED display, better graphics, and an aluminum body aren't worth a 30% price increase for me. I guess I had somehow thought the 999 dollar price point would include these fancy schmancy aluminum ones.

Yeah. Especially since the new aluminum manufacturing should save them money....

 

[aphex]

Originally posted by: marketsons1985
Does the current macbook have Dual-Link DVI? Apple store is back up and there are different adapters for regular DVI and dual-link. The dual-link has an extra connector, seems to be a FW?

No, current MB only has single DVI (mini-DVI)

 

[marketsons1985]

Originally posted by: aphex

Originally posted by: marketsons1985
Does the current macbook have Dual-Link DVI? Apple store is back up and there are different adapters for regular DVI and dual-link. The dual-link has an extra connector, seems to be a FW?

No, current MB only has single DVI (mini-DVI)

So the dual-link will allow outputs of higher than 1920x1080? Is that the idea?

EDIT: BTW the apple store is getting hammered.

 

[Kmax82]

Yea.. I'm a bit annoyed by a lot of the decisions. Main one being that it's a $99 adapter that you need to buy to get DualLink DVI support.. seriously Apple? This was built into the last Macbook Pro.

I hate how they leap forward with certain things and then fall so far back on others.

 

[ivan2]

interested at the trackpad, the current apple trackpad is already better than everything else with the 2 finger gesture.

but steve jobs looks like he's on chemo.

 

[KeithP]

The $1,299 MacBook seems like a good deal. Although it really depends on how good the display is; I guess we will have to wait for reviews. The MacBook Pro is disappointing. No matte screen. No esata port.

I am wondering if anyone thinks this new track pad is a good idea. When I am using my MacBook's keyboard and track pad, I only use my thumbs on the track pad. The multi-touch features will be nice in some situations, but 90% of the time I wouldn't be using them. I rather have two physical buttons than multi-touch.

-Keith

 

[EvilYoda]

I don't suppose it's possible to just rip the Superdrive out of the MB?

 

[Ns1]

Of course, the glare of the glass screen is a MAJOR issue for us, and will be pretty much forever.

doh

 

[marketsons1985]

Originally posted by: KeithP
The $1,299 MacBook seems like a good deal. Although it really depends on how good the display is; I guess we will have to wait for reviews. The MacBook Pro is disappointing. No matte screen. No esata port.

I am wondering if anyone thinks this new track pad is a good idea. When I am using my MacBook's keyboard and track pad, I only use my thumbs on the track pad. The multi-touch features will be nice in some situations, but 90% of the time I wouldn't be using them. I rather have two physical buttons than multi-touch.

-Keith

The only problem I have with that is this. When I got my MB last year at the $1299 level, I got a 2.2GHz processor. Now that price range is in at 2GHz? Not cool in my book...

EDIT: Even the plastic has a 2.1 GHz....wtf?

 

[manly]

Originally posted by: aphex
Interesting.

10:56AM "Blu-ray?"

Steve: "Blu-ray is just a bag of hurt. It's great to watch the movies, but the licensing of the tech is so complex, we're waiting till things settle down and Blu-ray takes off in the marketplace

Translation: "To maintain our eye-popping margins, we don't want to pay the licensing fees to Sony."

Isn't it conspicuous the new $1299 MacBook has just a 2.0 GHz processor? Even the old $999 model is at 2.1 GHz??

So much for Apple's earlier warning of a transition to a lower-margin SKU on the road map! Everything they did today is high-margin IMO, although you'd need an iSuppli tear-down to reach a valid conclusion.

 

[rikadik]

Apple have priced this new MacBook at a point equally between where it's a good value buy and where it's so expensive I can completely rule it out on grounds of sanity. I'm going to have to sleep on this. Damn you Steve!

And no FireWire... WTF!

 

[Wonderful Pork]

Originally posted by: manly

Originally posted by: aphex
Interesting.

10:56AM "Blu-ray?"

Steve: "Blu-ray is just a bag of hurt. It's great to watch the movies, but the licensing of the tech is so complex, we're waiting till things settle down and Blu-ray takes off in the marketplace

Translation: "To maintain our eye-popping margins, we don't want to pay the licensing fees to Sony."

Isn't it conspicuous the new $1299 MacBook has just a 2.0 GHz processor? Even the old $999 model is at 2.1 GHz??

So much for Apple's earlier warning of a transition to a lower-margin SKU on the road map! Everything they did today is high-margin IMO, although you'd need an iSuppli tear-down to reach a valid conclusion.

I bought a Macbook Pro in 2006 at 2.16GHz Merom...has the processor changed? I'm not very familiar with processor names, but I think Santa Rosa was thrown around. Do GHz still matter with different Intel processors? I think that they are all still in the Core2Duo family.

Anyway, these updates weren't/aren't that great...with the exception of the 13" Alu Macbook. If it can drive 1980x1080 and 19080x1200 I might sell my MBP and get it for the newer design and smaller footprint. I understand that the graphics are integrated, but I don't do anything too intensive, other than watch DIVX/XVID movies & TV shows. I have a couple 720mkv files, so it would need to play those as well.

All in all, until I see them in person I'd say its just meh.

 

[umrigar]

manly: didn't you catch the part about the new GPU in the Macbook? the $300 difference pays for newer tech and R&D, too... plus the fact that people will pay more for the SHINY.

new:
http://www.apple.com/macbook/specs.html
"NVIDIA GeForce 9400M graphics processor with 256MB of DDR3 SDRAM shared with main memory"

old:
http://www.everymac.com/system...2008-penryn-specs.html
"Intel GMA X3100 144MB shared with main memory"

 

[bearxor]

Originally posted by: aphex
lol

11:01AM Q: Concern about the glossy screens. Are you going to offer another option?
A: Steve: We're going all glass -- we won't offer another version. Phil: You offset the reflection by the brightness, and consumers love it. One of the great things about a notebook is you can turn it however you want!

Yeah, nice try, but that's kind of a pain.





Reality distortion field in FULL EFFECT on that one.

This pretty much guarantees that I will NOT be buying an Apple laptop (or iMac) in the future. I REFUSE to buy a notebook with a glossy screen, Mac or PC. I simply won't have it.

A couple of other things:

I don't know why people are still waiting for 12" MBP's. a 12.1" MBP won't be significantly smaller than a 13.3", it won't have substatially better battery life, and now that the MB's have a GF9400, the graphics playing field is a lot more even and they're made out of the same materials as the MBP now. A 12" MBP is simply not happening.

Secondly, looks like the rumors for i7 pointed to a desktop-only launch. WHen I went back and checked, the mobile processors are slated unit Q3 '09. That's still a long ways off. I hadn't researched it very well and figured the entire line would be launching in Q4, but was wrong. So these notebooks are probably what we have until July/August, with maybe a speed bump along the way.

 

[HN]

refurbed blackbook is tempting ($200 price drop from before the announcement)

$1099
2.4GHz Intel Core 2 Duo - black
13.3-inch glossy widescreen display
2GB memory
250GB hard drive
8x SuperDrive (DVD±R DL/DVD±RW/CD-RW)

 

[Ns1]

Originally posted by: HN
refurbed blackbook is tempting ($200 price drop from before the announcement)

$1099
2.4GHz Intel Core 2 Duo - black
13.3-inch glossy widescreen display
2GB memory
250GB hard drive
8x SuperDrive (DVD±R DL/DVD±RW/CD-RW)

Where are you getting that?

store.apple.com is down for me.

 

[TheStu]

Originally posted by: bearxor

Originally posted by: aphex
lol

11:01AM Q: Concern about the glossy screens. Are you going to offer another option?
A: Steve: We're going all glass -- we won't offer another version. Phil: You offset the reflection by the brightness, and consumers love it. One of the great things about a notebook is you can turn it however you want!

Yeah, nice try, but that's kind of a pain.





Reality distortion field in FULL EFFECT on that one.

This pretty much guarantees that I will NOT be buying an Apple laptop (or iMac) in the future. I REFUSE to buy a notebook with a glossy screen, Mac or PC. I simply won't have it.

A couple of other things:

I don't know why people are still waiting for 12" MBP's. a 12.1" MBP won't be significantly smaller than a 13.3", it won't have substatially better battery life, and now that the MB's have a GF9400, the graphics playing field is a lot more even and they're made out of the same materials as the MBP now. A 12" MBP is simply not happening.

Secondly, looks like the rumors for i7 pointed to a desktop-only launch. WHen I went back and checked, the mobile processors are slated unit Q3 '09. That's still a long ways off. I hadn't researched it very well and figured the entire line would be launching in Q4, but was wrong. So these notebooks are probably what we have until July/August, with maybe a speed bump along the way.

Why so adamant Bearxor? I generally felt the same way until I got my MacBook with a glossy screen, and I love it. What are your reasons for not liking glossy?

 

[HN]

Originally posted by: Ns1

Originally posted by: HN
refurbed blackbook is tempting ($200 price drop from before the announcement)

$1099
2.4GHz Intel Core 2 Duo - black
13.3-inch glossy widescreen display
2GB memory
250GB hard drive
8x SuperDrive (DVD±R DL/DVD±RW/CD-RW)

Where are you getting that?

store.apple.com is down for me.

store was up. they just put the "we'll be back soon" page up again.