Apple, Facebook and Spotify remove 'The Alex Jones Show,' Infowars over hate speech

[Younigue]

Nah it’s freedom for that too. I don’t think you want to live in a society where the gov regulates speech based on a nebulous term like “hate”.

Allowing these companies to shut people like Jones down? You bet yer booty I do.

 

[IronWing]

Freedom of speech is not freedom of hate speech.

Nah it’s freedom for that too. I don’t think you want to live in a society where the gov regulates speech based on a nebulous term like “hate”.

This really has nothing to do with freedom of speech in a governmental or Constitutional context. A group of data miners decided that the data they were mining from their sites wasn't worth the liability of hosting Alex Jones.

 

[Younigue]

This really has nothing to do with freedom of speech in a governmental or Constitutional context. A group of data miners decided that the data they were mining from their sites wasn't worth the liability of hosting Alex Jones.

Fine by me.

 

[HomerJS]

Nah it’s freedom for that too. I don’t think you want to live in a society where the gov regulates speech based on a nebulous term like “hate”.

I don't think government regulation entered into this at all.

 

[cytg111]

Simple proof that the left are not to be trusted with power.
If interfering with social media is an attack on democracy, by their own standards, the heads of the silicon valley left should hang, that is the punishment for treason.

This makes it clear for all to see, what the left has become, and its why you are not to be trusted with power. You see fascists everywhere, but you are the tyrants you complain about. Its no surprise the left so fear the second amendment, because you intend on behaving in ways which will validate its existence.

Fake news is getting snuffed out. Alex, Hannity and gang were coined fake news long before Trump hoarded the term and shortly after publicly announced it was a term he had come up with himself in his genius mind.
Your entire engine is fuelled by fake news. Lets get you down to the fumes, make some popcorn, and watch you choke out.
Also: Treason? Really? REALLY?

 

[cytg111]

Platforms and venues must be held accountable by their customers and advertisers to not tolerate the promotion of batshit and hate. Batshit and hate has always been legal and should remain so. But social pressure should be used to drive it back into the closet by refusing to provide it with free and/or easy platforms. Let it provide itself with a platform and venue.

Of course.. My point was only that it'd be nice if the cult of alex jones was of such a size noone would give a shit.
In regards to your last statement, isnt that excatly what "they" did with fox and now decades later have brainwashed 40% of America?

 

[Amused]

Of course.. My point was only that it'd be nice if the cult of alex jones was of such a size noone would give a shit.
In regards to your last statement, is that excatly what "they" did with fox and now decades later brainwashed 40% of America?

Fox still has advertisers. Logically, the only advertisers on Fox News should be quack medicine, survivalist stores and gold peddlers. Yet Fox News still has most of the major corporations advertising on them.

Why?

Why haven't decent people made it clear to companies that they will no longer do business with them as long as they support batshit and hate?

 

[Viper1j]

Good start. Youtube needs to step up.

They did..

https://money.cnn.com/2018/08/06/technology/facebook-infowars-alex-jones/index.html

YouTube, Apple and Facebook remove content from InfoWars and Alex Jones

YouTube, Facebook and Apple have taken steps to remove content associated with InfoWars and its founder Alex Jones.
Each social media platform said Monday that it had removed content from Jones or InfoWars because it had violated their policies. The companies' moves shut down key distribution channels that had given the controversial media figure easy access to millions of internet users.


The most dramatic action came last, from YouTube, which is owned by Google (GOOGL). It removed many top channels associated with InfoWars, including The Alex Jones Channel, which had 2.4 million subscribers and videos that were viewed over 1.5 billion times.

"When users violate ... policies repeatedly, like our policies against hate speech and harassment or our terms prohibiting circumvention of our enforcement measures, we terminate their accounts," said a spokesperson for YouTube.

Some channels for some of InfoWars' top personalities were still on the platform, however.

InfoWars is notorious for spreading demonstrably false information and conspiracy theories on a host of issues. It has suggested that the Sandy Hook massacre was a hoax, and that the September 11 terrorist attacks were an inside job orchestrated by the US government.

InfoWars did not respond to a request for comment.

But in a message posted Monday on Twitter, Jones encouraged users to access live streams directly from the InfoWars website. He described it as "the one platform that they CAN'T ban."

Earlier on Monday, Facebook removed four pages associated with InfoWars and Jones for repeated violations of its policies.

The social media platform said in a statement that it had "unpublished" the Alex Jones Channel Page, the Alex Jones Page, the InfoWars Page and the Infowars Nightly News Page.

Facebook (FB) removed four videos from the pages last week after determining that they violated its hate speech and bullying policies. It also suspended the personal profile of Jones.

The company said that more content from the pages had since been reported, and it had decided to remove them for "repeated violations of community standards and accumulating too many strikes."

"Upon review, we have taken it down for glorifying violence ... and using dehumanizing language to describe people who are transgender, Muslims and immigrants, which violates our hate speech policies," said Facebook.

The pages displayed the following message when accessed Monday: "Sorry, this content isn't available right now."

Facebook said the page administrators would be able to appeal its decision. In the absence of an appeal, or it the appeal fails, the pages will be permanently deleted.

The moves by Facebook, YouTube, and Apple left Twitter as the only major tech platform not to take some action against InfoWars and Jones over the past day.

A Twitter spokesperson told CNN that neither InfoWars nor any of its associated accounts are currently in violation of Twitter rules.

For weeks, Facebook has suffered a public relations crisis over how it handles misinformation and false news on its platforms. The company said the removal of the four pages on Monday was unrelated.

"While much of the discussion around InfoWars has been related to false news ... none of the violations that spurred today's removals were related to this," it said in a statement.

Related: Facebook and Instagram now reveal how much time you spend in each app

BuzzFeed News reported on Sunday that Apple (AAPL) had removed five podcasts associated with InfoWars from iTunes and its podcast app.

"Apple does not tolerate hate speech, and we have clear guidelines that creators and developers must follow to ensure we provide a safe environment for all of our users," it said in a statement provided to BuzzFeed News.

"Podcasts that violate these guidelines are removed from our directory making them no longer searchable or available for download or streaming. We believe in representing a wide range of views, so long as people are respectful to those with differing opinions."

 

[bshole]

So... oligarchs and their twitter hate mobs are now the arbiters of speech in America. Canary in the coal mine day for America. It is only a matter of time before the channels that speak of crony capitalism, corrupt American wars, etc.... are all banned. Has speech suppression ever done anything other than promote misery and violence?

So you support banning this guy.... what happens when they come for your guy (and they will, count on it)? Sad day for Western Civilization.... what is left of it. An absolute stain on the American Left. History will not be kind...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iVD-mMA_UVY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1-2C_2Np-w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXrLrjT8N2g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-4fQnL5Bdg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KqGDD0bTkXs

When Adolf Hitler took power in 1933, the Nazis controlled less than three percent of Germany’s 4,700 papers.

The elimination of the German multi-party political system not only brought about the demise of hundreds of newspapers produced by outlawed political parties; it also allowed the state to seize the printing plants and equipment of the Communist and Social Democratic Parties, which were often turned over directly to the Nazi Party. In the following months, the Nazis established control or exerted influence over independent press organs.

During the first weeks of 1933, the Nazi regime deployed the radio, press, and newsreels to stoke fears of a pending “Communist uprising,” then channeled popular anxieties into political measures that eradicated civil liberties and democracy. SA (storm troopers) and members of the Nazi elite paramilitary formation, the SS, took to the streets to brutalize or arrest political opponents and incarcerate them in hastily established detention centers and concentration camps. Nazi thugs broke into opposing political party offices, destroying printing presses and newspapers.

Sometimes using holding companies to disguise new ownership, executives of the Nazi Party-owned publishing house, Franz Eher, established a huge empire that drove out competition and purchased newspapers at below-market prices. Some independent newspapers, particularly conservative newspapers and non-political illustrated weeklies, accommodated to the regime through self-censorship or initiative in dealing with approved topics.

 

[IronWing]

InfoWars did not respond to a request for comment.

I find this impossible to believe.

 

[IronWing]

So... oligarchs and their twitter hate mobs are now the arbiters of speech in America. Canary in the coal mine day for America. It is only a matter of time before the channels that speak of crony capitalism, corrupt American wars, etc.... are all banned. Has speech suppression ever done anything other than promote misery and violence?

So you support banning this guy.... what happens when they come for your guy (and they will, count on it)? Sad day for Western Civilization.... what is left of it. An absolute stain on the American Left. History will not be kind...

In reference to private businesses kicking Alex Jones out of their tea party, your reply is rubbish.

In reference to media consolidation, mostly in the hands of far rightwing oligarchs, your reply is quite pertinent to today's America.

 

[zzyzxroad]

So... oligarchs and their twitter hate mobs are now the arbiters of speech in America. Canary in the coal mine day for America. It is only a matter of time before the channels that speak of crony capitalism, corrupt American wars, etc.... are all banned. Has speech suppression ever done anything other than promote misery and violence?

So you support banning this guy.... what happens when they come for your guy (and they will, count on it)? Sad day for Western Civilization.... what is left of it. An absolute stain on the American Left. History will not be kind...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iVD-mMA_UVY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1-2C_2Np-w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXrLrjT8N2g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-4fQnL5Bdg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KqGDD0bTkXs

So you don't think these companies should be able to dictate what is allowed on the platform they created? There are lot of people banned form these platforms each and every day. No shoes no shirt no service.

 

[jackstar7]

So... oligarchs and their twitter hate mobs are now the arbiters of speech in America. Canary in the coal mine day for America. It is only a matter of time before the channels that speak of crony capitalism, corrupt American wars, etc.... are all banned. Has speech suppression ever done anything other than promote misery and violence?

So you support banning this guy.... what happens when they come for your guy (and they will, count on it)? Sad day for Western Civilization.... what is left of it. An absolute stain on the American Left. History will not be kind...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iVD-mMA_UVY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1-2C_2Np-w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXrLrjT8N2g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-4fQnL5Bdg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KqGDD0bTkXs

When was your account hacked?

 

[JSt0rm]

So... oligarchs and their twitter hate mobs are now the arbiters of speech in America. Canary in the coal mine day for America. It is only a matter of time before the channels that speak of crony capitalism, corrupt American wars, etc.... are all banned. Has speech suppression ever done anything other than promote misery and violence?

So you support banning this guy.... what happens when they come for your guy (and they will, count on it)? Sad day for Western Civilization.... what is left of it. An absolute stain on the American Left. History will not be kind...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iVD-mMA_UVY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1-2C_2Np-w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXrLrjT8N2g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-4fQnL5Bdg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KqGDD0bTkXs

What happens when they ban your puppy videos everyone? Nobody banned anyones speech.

 

[zzyzxroad]

Seems like his own website is up and running. Nutters that want to listen to this lunatic are free to go there no?

 

[sportage]

The fact these guys even exist just proves how lost many Americans are. Or can become.
I guess we've had these guys all throughout history. What is new is the internet bringing them together.
But we've always had nuts in America.
Jones isn't a new nut. Jones is just another nut.

 

[UberNeuman]

Well. That's a shame.


wait for it...

ah, much better... lol....

 

[Amused]

So... oligarchs and their twitter hate mobs are now the arbiters of speech in America. Canary in the coal mine day for America. It is only a matter of time before the channels that speak of crony capitalism, corrupt American wars, etc.... are all banned. Has speech suppression ever done anything other than promote misery and violence?

So you support banning this guy.... what happens when they come for your guy (and they will, count on it)? Sad day for Western Civilization.... what is left of it. An absolute stain on the American Left. History will not be kind...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iVD-mMA_UVY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1-2C_2Np-w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXrLrjT8N2g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-4fQnL5Bdg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KqGDD0bTkXs

Pure unmitigated bullshit.

Tell me, before the internet and social media, what were the platforms and venues for people like Jones. For batshit and hate?

Oh, that's right. They were relegated to counter culture book stores and freak shops. No publication or television station would associate with such bullshit knowing that doing so would stain their reputation and integrity.

Well guess what? We are headed right back in that direction. Finally. It's taken WAY too long, and immeasurable damage has been done, but the internet just needed to grow enough to finally realize what integrity and reputation was again. And the power of the people to refuse to associate with batshit and hate, or associate with anyone who would offer it a platform is rising again. Just as it did before the Internet.

What you are bemoaning is everything returning to the sanity it once was.

 

[IronWing]

Seems like his own website is up and running. Nutters that want to listen to this lunatic are free to go there no?

You just don’t understand, Alex has to pay for that bandwidth. With the other platforms, he could sponge off the data miners.

 

[Amused]

You just don’t understand, Alex has to pay for that bandwidth. With the other platforms, he could sponge off the data miners.

Precisely. The ability to go "viral" on social media has created a free platform that spreads a message far wider than it could ever be carried on it's own merit and virtually for free.

Thankfully those days seem to be FINALLY coming to an end. I have a little more hope for a pre-internet style return to sanity.

 

[esquared]

I saw this posted on Twitter, which about says it all:

 

[Victorian Gray]

So... oligarchs and their twitter hate mobs are now the arbiters of speech in America. Canary in the coal mine day for America. It is only a matter of time before the channels that speak of crony capitalism, corrupt American wars, etc.... are all banned. Has speech suppression ever done anything other than promote misery and violence?

So you support banning this guy.... what happens when they come for your guy (and they will, count on it)? Sad day for Western Civilization.... what is left of it. An absolute stain on the American Left. History will not be kind...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iVD-mMA_UVY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1-2C_2Np-w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXrLrjT8N2g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-4fQnL5Bdg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KqGDD0bTkXs

OrooOroo is still around so his job opening isn't available anymore.

Silenced!

 

[zzyzxroad]

You just don’t understand, Alex has to pay for that bandwidth. With the other platforms, he could sponge off the data miners.

This I know. He probably won’t be able pay and end up as a Fox flunky like Geraldo Rivera and Sebastian Gorka. There is always a way for nuts to get their message out.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

Allowing these companies to shut people like Jones down? You bet yer booty I do.

my ears were burni... wait.. whoops, nm.

jones has no one but himself and his bloviating to blame. It's either all an act, or it's not, either way, it's still repugnant, as is he, and those who defend his words.

 

[UglyCasanova]

It’s odd that Farrakhans page remains.