Apple App Store made 20x the money of Google android market in 2010

[Bman123]

Yeah they made more money they charge you for everything

 

[cheezy321]

Only in android fanboy bizzaro world is it a good thing that people aren't spending money in your app store.

Mind boggling.

 

[cheezy321]

Yeah they made more money they charge you for everything

You do understand that everything in the app store is optional? Apple doesnt 'charge' you for anything in the app store. The developers do.

What does apple have to do with whether or not a developer chooses to charge you for their app?

 

[purbeast0]

You do understand that everything in the app store is optional? Apple doesnt 'charge' you for anything in the app store. The developers do.

What does apple have to do with whether or not a developer chooses to charge you for their app?

and also, pretty much for every paid app in the apple store, you can pretty much find a free alternative as well (other than games, but even a lot of the popular games have free versions).

 

[SunnyD]

The App store has millions of free apps, it's just some of the paid ones are actually work buying. But there's nothing can't find 5, 10, or 20 free versions of on the App Store

Indeed. It boggles my friends/associates minds when they see my phone (Vibrant) and ask what apps I have on there. I tell them this and that, and they ask how much those were - I say free. They then scramble to pick their jaws up off the floor and say "Damn, I had to pay $x.xx for a similar app on my iPhone... that's ridiculous."

It's even better when they point out some new app on their iPhone that's arguably useful, that they paid for. Then I hop on the Android Market and find its equivalent for free.

There really is no reason that Apple should be making as much money as they do. The real reason, as cheezy helpfully points out, is the rabid fanboyism of the Apple community and their willingness to tithe their money to Mr. Jobs & Co.

 

[JeffreyLebowski]

As someone who recently got my first Android device after being in the iOS world only, I can believe this. There are many more free apps on Android, even Angry Birds doesn't cost anything on Android. Because of Android's ability to display ads in applications easily, I think way more money is being made on "free" apps supported by ads.

This.
You can get a lot of very useful apps from the Android market for free, you just have ad banners in them.

Also, the OP states you have to remember the Androids sky rocketing app store profits are based on only the previous year, since it is so new. But then you fail to account for the fact that the Apple App store has been around a lot longer and has a larger user base so of course it is going to be bigger. The key is to compare revenues and app availability based on age. How was the app store doing in year 1 and 2 compared to the Android market?

 

[JeffreyLebowski]

Indeed. It boggles my friends/associates minds when they see my phone (Vibrant) and ask what apps I have on there. I tell them this and that, and they ask how much those were - I say free. They then scramble to pick their jaws up off the floor and say "Damn, I had to pay $x.xx for a similar app on my iPhone... that's ridiculous."

It's even better when they point out some new app on their iPhone that's arguably useful, that they paid for. Then I hop on the Android Market and find its equivalent for free.

There really is no reason that Apple should be making as much money as they do. The real reason, as cheezy helpfully points out, is the rabid fanboyism of the Apple community and their willingness to tithe their money to Mr. Jobs & Co.

I don't think it's so much in tithing their moeny to Apple, as it is more that it is all about apperances.

 

[cheezy321]

Indeed. It boggles my friends/associates minds when they see my phone (Vibrant) and ask what apps I have on there. I tell them this and that, and they ask how much those were - I say free. They then scramble to pick their jaws up off the floor and say "Damn, I had to pay $x.xx for a similar app on my iPhone... that's ridiculous."

It's even better when they point out some new app on their iPhone that's arguably useful, that they paid for. Then I hop on the Android Market and find its equivalent for free.

There really is no reason that Apple should be making as much money as they do. The real reason, as cheezy helpfully points out, is the rabid fanboyism of the Apple community and their willingness to tithe their money to Mr. Jobs & Co.

I think its hilarious that you think every single person who has an iphone is some rabid fanboy who opens their wallet for anything apple related.

Maybe, JUST MAYBE they bought the product because they are satisfied with it. and MAYBE, JUST MAYBE they paid for an app and got their moneys worth out of it! Is this really such a novel idea to you? Get your head out of your ass. Some people have disposable income. Not everyone is a lowballing cheapass who everyone on craigslist hates.

You are so out of touch with reality it is absolutely insane.

 

[JeffreyLebowski]

Only in android fanboy bizzaro world is it a good thing that people aren't spending money in your app store.

Mind boggling.

No, it's that people in Android fanboy bizzaro world (which happens to be a mirror of the Apple fanboy bizzaro world, except the people in the android one don't wear pink shirts) don't see the need to spend money on an app when they can get it for free and the publisher still makes money on the ads.
It's like freeware on computers. There's thousands and thousands of freeware apps available for almost anything you can think of on PC's, where as Apple, not so much.

Google's bread and butter is web searches. That's what they want. Everything on top of that is just a bonus. Where Google doesn't rely on Android or anything associated with it to make a profit, Apple is tied to iPods and iPhones and related services to make a large portion of it's money.

The 2 platforms while achieving the same thing, go about it in completely different ways. In the mobile market now, Apple is the money grubbing, screw the customer at any chance, Microsoft, and Google is the "free thinker" that was Apple in the 90's.

 

[Suspicious-Teach8788]

Indeed. It boggles my friends/associates minds when they see my phone (Vibrant) and ask what apps I have on there. I tell them this and that, and they ask how much those were - I say free. They then scramble to pick their jaws up off the floor and say "Damn, I had to pay $x.xx for a similar app on my iPhone... that's ridiculous."

It's even better when they point out some new app on their iPhone that's arguably useful, that they paid for. Then I hop on the Android Market and find its equivalent for free.

There really is no reason that Apple should be making as much money as they do. The real reason, as cheezy helpfully points out, is the rabid fanboyism of the Apple community and their willingness to tithe their money to Mr. Jobs & Co.

As someone who has both devices, I don't ever say "Damn I got this on Android for free."

It's usually "damn, I wish they had this app on the other platform." But it goes both ways. Usually it's more that I wish Android had a version of that. But since 256mb of onboard memory is so little for apps, I end up installing mostly iOS apps anyway.

This.
You can get a lot of very useful apps from the Android market for free, you just have ad banners in them.

Also, the OP states you have to remember the Androids sky rocketing app store profits are based on only the previous year, since it is so new. But then you fail to account for the fact that the Apple App store has been around a lot longer and has a larger user base so of course it is going to be bigger. The key is to compare revenues and app availability based on age. How was the app store doing in year 1 and 2 compared to the Android market?

Dude seriously? Android Market came out in October 2008. Apple App Store came out in June 2008. 4 month head start. Can we get over this rehashing of the same argument over and over again? Within the first week of the App store opening, I had no idea apps would become this crazy. My friend listed off 5-6 apps for me to get. They were amazing.

I'll credit my awe wiht the fact that I had never seen something like this yet, but going back to those games, I have to say they were pretty awesome for coming out within a month or so of the App Store. The Facebook app was already decently refined. How long did it take for Facebook on Android to become even DECENT? To include chat or to click on notifications and not have the browser open up? Same with many other apps which still lag behind the iOS version. Foursquare only became half decent in December when they finally revamped the checkin screen to look like the iOS version.

How long did it take for games like Real Racing, Flight Control, and others to come up? How many good casual games do we have that are not ports on Android? Those games spawned so quickly on iOS yet have not come in Android yet. This 4 month head start is really meaningless now, as you could rewind 4 months ago on the Apple App store and still have the same great apps. Hell, you could rewind a year or even two and have apps that can compete with the Android market today.

There is a huge difference between the # of apps, the quality of apps, and the types of apps out there on both markets. It's obvious. This is attributed to the explosive nature of iOS and the slow adoption of Android in the US until the past year. When you open one large market, everyone rushes there. By the time people realize an alternative is open, it's too late. Ports or rewrites or shifting of resources over to another platform takes a long time and usually results in features being left out.

 

[ChAoTiCpInOy]

Indeed. It boggles my friends/associates minds when they see my phone (Vibrant) and ask what apps I have on there. I tell them this and that, and they ask how much those were - I say free. They then scramble to pick their jaws up off the floor and say "Damn, I had to pay $x.xx for a similar app on my iPhone... that's ridiculous."

Show me Netflix.

 

[zerocool84]

I'm pointing out the truth that the apps suck ass. You seem to be unable to handle it so you spend all your time looking for my posts just so you can reply. Thanks for playing. It's so cool because the poster before me slams Apple like half this board does, but you will ignore it because you love dissing Apple every chance you get. It's easy to call me out every chance you get but you can't realize the hypocrisy of your actions because you're just as big of a fanboi on the other side.

Until you can get off your biased ass and realize that years after Android Market's debut, the level of quality in many apps is still not up to par. Only recently have many apps just finally MATCHED the level of their iOS counterparts.

It's almost like Microsoft touting how Office 2011 is finally on par with the PC version.

What's funny is that I have not once said the Android Market was good or the apps were good. All I said is that you cry and complain about Android in every post you make, saying it sucks ass blah blah blah crying about it in every post even in threads that has nothing to do with what you're talking about. If it's so bad stop using it. If it's so horrible to make you curse the world in every post you make stop using it.

Like I said before, everyone here can talk smack about other OS's they don't like just fine, but no one cries about it like you do. It's just funny.

 

[Suspicious-Teach8788]

ok ill admit there are a few apps out there that make other people jealous like google sky map, but that's really the only one i can name. starwalk costs quite a bit on the App Store.

I think it's funny here people talk about how much we can spend on iOS apps, but years ago we were talking about how Microsoft viewed the $0.99 concept as driving the prices to the floor. Symbian forums used to be filled with people arguing about how iOS apps like the paid Twitter apps would blow away Symbian's $9.99 Gravity client yet only cost $0.99. People showed articles where app developers talked about making no money at all despite being ranked #20 on the App Store download list.

So we went from mobile market where apps were like $10-$20 (remember WM6 and Symbian apps?) to dirt cheap mobile market to saying that it's now too expensive and that the only solution is free? Interesting.

 

[SunnyD]

I think its hilarious that you think every single person who has an iphone is some rabid fanboy who opens their wallet for anything apple related.

Maybe, JUST MAYBE they bought the product because they are satisfied with it. and MAYBE, JUST MAYBE they paid for an app and got their moneys worth out of it! Is this really such a novel idea to you? Get your head out of your ass. Some people have disposable income. Not everyone is a lowballing cheapass who everyone on craigslist hates.

You are so out of touch with reality it is absolutely insane.

I'd be willing to put money down that if you round up 100 random iPhone users, look at all of their for-pay app purchases, then ask them the last time they actually used every one of those apps, I would venture a guess that their reply for >80% of those apps would be, "Gee, I really don't know."

Sure, that won't attest to whether or not they consider they got their money out of those purchases. But then ask them if there was a free alternative at the time whether or not it was a worthwhile purchase. Obvious answer is obvious.

 

[tatteredpotato]

...But since 256mb of onboard memory is so little for apps, I end up installing mostly iOS apps anyway.

Do you have an older device? Installing to SD is now a native part of Android (although I think it might be new to Froyo).

 

[theeedude]

Apple fanbois bragging about how much money App store is making is like sheep bragging about how much wool the farmer produced that year.

 

[Suspicious-Teach8788]

Do you have an older device? Installing to SD is now a native part of Android (although I think it might be new to Froyo).

The Milestone doesn't have official Froyo yet. CM6.1.2 makes it have a beta kernel and stuff.

Even though you move stuff to SD, there's some part that still resides on the onboard memory too right? Like I moved flash over and instead of being 10mb, it says 3mb.

 

[shortylickens]

Show me Netflix.

Android now has netflix.
Its less than perfect I'll admit, but I get irritated with people who think they need EVERY movie and TV show ever fucking made to be accessible at any instant in their lives.
The hell with those people, and to hell with their sorry parents who spoiled them.

Also, while streaming video most phones die quickly anyway.

 

[zerocool84]

I'd be willing to put money down that if you round up 100 random iPhone users, look at all of their for-pay app purchases, then ask them the last time they actually used every one of those apps, I would venture a guess that their reply for >80% of those apps would be, "Gee, I really don't know."

Sure, that won't attest to whether or not they consider they got their money out of those purchases. But then ask them if there was a free alternative at the time whether or not it was a worthwhile purchase. Obvious answer is obvious.

See that's what I said before, the Android return policy is good for the consumer but as we know was bad for the developer. Apple store has no return policy at all so if someone bought something and they didn't like it, they're stuck with it.

Everyone seems to forget there's pluses and minuses to both App stores. Apple app store isn't hands down better than others, it does some things better than others just like the Android Market does some things better as well. Just like the two OS's are for different people, the two Markets are for different people.

 

[Bman123]

The hell with how much they made I can even imagine how much money they lose due to people using cydia and installous. I understand the devs charge you for the apps but apple gets the money too.

 

[purbeast0]

The hell with how much they made I can even imagine how much money they lose due to people using cydia and installous. I understand the devs charge you for the apps but apple gets the money too.

google gets just as much money as apple does ... 30%.

 

[s44]

You can get a lot of very useful apps from the Android market for free, you just have ad banners in them.

Until you install an ad blocker app, of course. 😉

(Or a custom ROM with a hosts file.)

 

[tatteredpotato]

The Milestone doesn't have official Froyo yet. CM6.1.2 makes it have a beta kernel and stuff.

Even though you move stuff to SD, there's some part that still resides on the onboard memory too right? Like I moved flash over and instead of being 10mb, it says 3mb.

Honestly I haven't looked into it much since I've never run out of space locally for me to need to worry. I just did some playing around and it seems like most apps will leave behind somewhere around 100kB. My guess would be this is just some metadata about how the OS can find the app and maybe icon caches or something.

 

[JeffreyLebowski]

Dude seriously? Android Market came out in October 2008. Apple App Store came out in June 2008. 4 month head start. Can we get over this rehashing of the same argument over and over again? Within the first week of the App store opening, I had no idea apps would become this crazy. My friend listed off 5-6 apps for me to get. They were amazing.

I'll credit my awe wiht the fact that I had never seen something like this yet, but going back to those games, I have to say they were pretty awesome for coming out within a month or so of the App Store. The Facebook app was already decently refined. How long did it take for Facebook on Android to become even DECENT? To include chat or to click on notifications and not have the browser open up? Same with many other apps which still lag behind the iOS version. Foursquare only became half decent in December when they finally revamped the checkin screen to look like the iOS version.

How long did it take for games like Real Racing, Flight Control, and others to come up? How many good casual games do we have that are not ports on Android? Those games spawned so quickly on iOS yet have not come in Android yet. This 4 month head start is really meaningless now, as you could rewind 4 months ago on the Apple App store and still have the same great apps. Hell, you could rewind a year or even two and have apps that can compete with the Android market today.

There is a huge difference between the # of apps, the quality of apps, and the types of apps out there on both markets. It's obvious. This is attributed to the explosive nature of iOS and the slow adoption of Android in the US until the past year. When you open one large market, everyone rushes there. By the time people realize an alternative is open, it's too late. Ports or rewrites or shifting of resources over to another platform takes a long time and usually results in features being left out.

iPhone had a year head start with the hardware, and had a larger customer base when the app store launched. Android phones didn't become main stream until mid to late 2009 and by the end of 09 only had around 4.5-5% of the smartphone market share. Where as Apple had 11%. Their profitability is all about market share.
Apple has had a few years of more mainstream advertising and promotion of the device. Android has until recently been driven by word of mouth. No one knew about Android really until the Motorola Droid came out in late 09. And then it took awhile for other alternatives to come out.

Apple has to massively advertise their products to oversell the hype to get people to buy them (Something Steve Jobs is a genius at).

Eitherway, you're going to have fan boys of one platform or the other, and most of them will not see eye to eye.

 

[QueBert]

Indeed. It boggles my friends/associates minds when they see my phone (Vibrant) and ask what apps I have on there. I tell them this and that, and they ask how much those were - I say free. They then scramble to pick their jaws up off the floor and say "Damn, I had to pay $x.xx for a similar app on my iPhone... that's ridiculous."

It's even better when they point out some new app on their iPhone that's arguably useful, that they paid for. Then I hop on the Android Market and find its equivalent for free.

There really is no reason that Apple should be making as much money as they do. The real reason, as cheezy helpfully points out, is the rabid fanboyism of the Apple community and their willingness to tithe their money to Mr. Jobs & Co.

No, there are plenty of iOS apps worth paying for, they have apps that feel like they were made by a real company. It's like Open Office Vs Microsoft Office, if you don't care how the program looks, and just if it works or not. Free apps are great, but the free ones almost never touch the level of polish. I'd rather pay for MS Office than use Open Office for free, but that's just me. Hell I'd pay for apps like that on my Droid 1, but I can't find many that don't look/feel like they were made by somebody with zero design experience.

Apps on a smart phone are pretty much like computer programs, there's no free equivalent of Photoshop, Gimp & Paint.net are alright, but they're not by any means good. Now whether you'd buy Photoshop or use Gimp's up to you, but I wouldn't call anyone stupid for buying a clearly better program any more than I'd call somebody stupid for settling for Gimp.