Apple App Store made 20x the money of Google android market in 2010

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ChAoTiCpInOy

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Android now has netflix.
Its less than perfect I'll admit, but I get irritated with people who think they need EVERY movie and TV show ever fucking made to be accessible at any instant in their lives.
The hell with those people, and to hell with their sorry parents who spoiled them.

Also, while streaming video most phones die quickly anyway.

Netflix for Android is not out yet. Nor is it for all devices, it is a specific subset of devices that run certain hardware.

I don't need every movie and TV show ever made, but it is nice to have in my pocket if I ever have time to kill and watch a movie. And even if I do watch Netflix or any sort of streaming video, my battery life is not affected as much as you'd think.

BTW, I was making a rebuttal to your argument, there was no need for that little quip there.
 

shortylickens

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Netflix for Android is not out yet. Nor is it for all devices, it is a specific subset of devices that run certain hardware.

I don't need every movie and TV show ever made, but it is nice to have in my pocket if I ever have time to kill and watch a movie. And even if I do watch Netflix or any sort of streaming video, my battery life is not affected as much as you'd think.

BTW, I was making a rebuttal to your argument, there was no need for that little quip there.

True.
Sorry, I been in college with a bunch of kids and they are freakin spoiled. Been irritated with them for a couple years now. They think they deserve to have everything handed to them dirt cheap or free, and it amazes me how much they complain when that doesnt happen, especially with regard to cell phones and computers. I made the mistake of thinking folks on this forum have the same attitude, and theres no such evidence you guys are nearly that bad.
 

ChAoTiCpInOy

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True.
Sorry, I been in college with a bunch of kids and they are freakin spoiled. Been irritated with them for a couple years now. They think they deserve to have everything handed to them dirt cheap or free, and it amazes me how much they complain when that doesnt happen, especially with regard to cell phones and computers. I made the mistake of thinking folks on this forum have the same attitude, and theres no such evidence you guys are nearly that bad.

Oh, I totally understand. I have a bunch of friends that always act that way and I like to come here and actually have a discussion about these things.
 

cheezy321

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Apple fanbois bragging about how much money App store is making is like sheep bragging about how much wool the farmer produced that year.

You made no actual point. Are you saying that google is better off not making much money from its app store? Lets have an actual conversation instead of you trying to berate a user of another device. You have provided absolutely nothing useful to this thread except for insults.
 

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You made no actual point. Are you saying that google is better off not making much money from its app store? Lets have an actual conversation instead of you trying to berate a user of another device. You have provided absolutely nothing useful to this thread except for insults.

but you're saying that Android Market sucks cus it's not making as much money as Apple Market. You forget Google's strategy to making money is not the same as Apple's strategy to making money.
 

senseamp

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You made no actual point. Are you saying that google is better off not making much money from its app store? Lets have an actual conversation instead of you trying to berate a user of another device. You have provided absolutely nothing useful to this thread except for insults.

Why should I care if google is better off or not by not making much money from its app store? I am not a GOOG shareholder. The less money they take from me, the better. You seem to be bragging that Apple is making a lot of money off people like you, which was the point of my post. If it was over your head, so be it.
 

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but you're saying that Android Market sucks cus it's not making as much money as Apple Market. You forget Google's strategy to making money is not the same as Apple's strategy to making money.

No no, I am just saying you need to have a good amount of people paying for apps in order to make a healthy ecosystem.

Advertising revenue is not guaranteed. Paid App revenue is guaranteed.

In order for the US economy to function, people need to spend money. In order for the android market to function, people need to buy apps.

Not every app can be ad supported, some need to charge up front. Not every developer can spend a ton on development costs and just hope that the advertising money will bring them a return on their investments.

You never see a paid app get developed on the android store first then move over to the iOS store. Its always the opposite. That is because the Apple store is where the $$$ is at (right now). In order for more development to BEGIN on the android store, there has to be more money flowing in. I wonder when that will happen.
 
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No, there are plenty of iOS apps worth paying for, they have apps that feel like they were made by a real company. It's like Open Office Vs Microsoft Office, if you don't care how the program looks, and just if it works or not. Free apps are great, but the free ones almost never touch the level of polish. I'd rather pay for MS Office than use Open Office for free, but that's just me. Hell I'd pay for apps like that on my Droid 1, but I can't find many that don't look/feel like they were made by somebody with zero design experience.

Apps on a smart phone are pretty much like computer programs, there's no free equivalent of Photoshop, Gimp & Paint.net are alright, but they're not by any means good. Now whether you'd buy Photoshop or use Gimp's up to you, but I wouldn't call anyone stupid for buying a clearly better program any more than I'd call somebody stupid for settling for Gimp.

Absolutely. The question is whether that level of pay is worth it.

I tried to go 2 months with Open Office only. I was lazy working in the clean room. I didn't want to lug my laptop downstairs to the chemically contaminated downstairs. So I worked on one of the PCs downstairs. No office, but I was too lazy to call IT because I hated Office 2003 anyway and only the new computers shipped with 2007 so the kept it. I settled with Open Office for about 2 months and in the end I gave up. It would botch half my spreadsheets and powerpoint struggled a lot in terms of compatibility.

For basic reading yeah, it passes the test, but when you want to do a serious presentation, you better be doing it on real Microsoft Office.
 

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Why should I care if google is better off or not by not making much money from its app store? I am not a GOOG shareholder. The less money they take from me, the better. You seem to be bragging that Apple is making a lot of money off people like you, which was the point of my post. If it was over your head, so be it.

I'll bring it back to the economy example. You should care about other people in the US spending their money. If they weren't, then the economy would crumble and a lot of people would be out of a job.

If people aren't spending money in the android store, then development wont take off like it should. People spending money in the android store directly affects you. If you download apps on the android marketplace, then yes it definitely affects you.

I barely spend money on any iOS apps, but the ones I have paid for I am thoroughly happy with.

Wasn't over my head at all. It just further proves that you are the typical android user who thinks you are somehow above iOS users and that all of them are raving fanboys who throw their money away.
 

senseamp

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I'll bring it back to the economy example. You should care about other people in the US spending their money. If they weren't, then the economy would crumble and a lot of people would be out of a job.

If people aren't spending money in the android store, then development wont take off like it should. People spending money in the android store directly affects you. If you download apps on the android marketplace, then yes it definitely affects you.

I barely spend money on any iOS apps, but the ones I have paid for I am thoroughly happy with.

Wasn't over my head at all. It just further proves that you are the typical android user who thinks you are somehow above iOS users and that all of them are raving fanboys who throw their money away.

I don't care about Android store making money, I care about the money staying in my pocket. You seem to care about App store making money, even though it's your money they are taking. There are plenty of advertising supported industries doing quite well, there is no reason mobile apps can't be one of them. I don't see Android ecosystem stalling just because they aren't racking in as much app store revenue as Apple, just like NBC is not bankrupt even though they don't make money directly off subscribers like HBO.
 

JD50

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Leave it to Apple users to gloat about spending more money than everyone else. Wow, you really pwned us Android users.
 

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I don't care about Android store making money, I care about the money staying in my pocket. You seem to care about App store making money, even though it's your money they are taking. There are plenty of advertising supported industries doing quite well, there is no reason mobile apps can't be one of them. I don't see Android ecosystem stalling just because they aren't racking in as much app store revenue as Apple, just like NBC is not bankrupt even though they don't make money directly off subscribers like HBO.

Hey, if you are fine with all the new development happening on iOS then maybe, sometimes being ported over the android, then so am I.

I am just wondering when new apps will start flowing the opposite way, from android to iOS.
 

cheezy321

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Leave it to Apple users to gloat about spending more money than everyone else. Wow, you really pwned us Android users.

Leave it up to android users to think that making significantly less money than their competitor is a good thing. And you wonder why it took so long to get netflix (only certain phones apply!), angry birds, words with friends, the list goes on and on and on...

Wow, you really pwned us iPhone users. I guess I'll just keep on reaping the rewards of getting all the coolest apps first.
 

JD50

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Leave it up to android users to think that making significantly less money than their competitor is a good thing. And you wonder why it took so long to get netflix (only certain phones apply!), angry birds, words with friends, the list goes on and on and on...

Wow, you really pwned us iPhone users. I guess I'll just keep on reaping the rewards of getting all the coolest apps first.

Google and Apple have completely different business models. FAIL.

And why should I give a shit how much google makes anyways? I'm perfectly happy with the apps that are available to me.
 

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Google and Apple have completely different business models. FAIL.

Then lets factor in the $1,000,000,000 google made off mobile advertising last year. Let's also attribute 100% of that revenue to android marketplace apps.

Even when you do all that, google still didnt make as much as apple did with its app store alone.

FAIL?
 

cheezy321

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Google and Apple have completely different business models. FAIL.

And why should I give a shit how much google makes anyways? I'm perfectly happy with the apps that are available to me 6 months to a year after iPhone users had them.

Fixed for you.
 

JD50

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Then lets factor in the $1,000,000,000 google made off mobile advertising last year. Let's also attribute 100% of that revenue to android marketplace apps.

Even when you do all that, google still didnt make as much as apple did with its app store alone.

FAIL?

Again, why should I care how much money google makes? Wow, the giant company that makes your phone made more than the giant company that makes the operating system for my phone. Wow, good for you...I guess.

I also prefer Red Hat Enterprise Linux over Windows, and Microsoft makes a lot more money than Red Hat. I guess all you Windows users pwned me there too.

I'm just getting pwned all over the place, everyone is spending more money on their software than me.

Newsflash, not everyone cares how much the company that manufactures their consumer devices make.
 

JD50

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Fixed for you.

Umm....ok. The classic mistake that Apple fanboys make is that they think everyone is looking for the exact same thing as them. Wow, you got an app before I did. Awesome. I got the same app for free, I also have complete freedom with the software that I use due to it being open source. I can hack away at it as much as I want, it's not only allowed it's encouraged.

I've been perfectly happy with my Android experience. I've gotten every app that I could possibly want. I'm also supporting FOSS and the open source community, which is much more important to me than how much money Apple or Google make.

The funny thing is that for years Mac users gave Windows users shit because they hated the evil M$ corporation, now they're the ones bragging about how much money Apple makes.

Edit: Take a look at what's going on with the Nook color, that's why I support Android and the Open Source community. Without google and Android there's no Nook color to hack around with. Everyone should be supporting and encouraging free (as in speech, not beer) software. Instead some idiots are running around bragging about how much money they paid a company for their software.
 
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JD50

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Hey cheezy, instead of braggin about how much Apple makes why don't you show me an app that I've been wanting that's available on the iPhone but not on Android?
 

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Hey, if you are fine with all the new development happening on iOS then maybe, sometimes being ported over the android, then so am I.

I am just wondering when new apps will start flowing the opposite way, from android to iOS.

I am fine with all new paid app development happening on iOS and then maybe sometimes being ported to Android. Let Apple users pay for the initial R&D through their App store, they seem to enjoy it, and even brag about it on forums. I am not very interested in paid apps, plus it helps filter out the bad and mediocre paid apps because they first have to make it on iOS before being ported to Android, so Android market should end up having only the good paid apps that get that far.
 

akugami

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Hey cheezy, instead of braggin about how much Apple makes why don't you show me an app that I've been wanting that's available on the iPhone but not on Android?

That's ridiculous. Everyone's opinions are different. Everyone's views are different. What you like is not what I like. Neither I, nor Cheezy, can read your mind. How the hell would we know what you want?

What I can say is that there are niche apps that are available on iOS that are not available on Android or BB that I use. These are paid for apps. I don't expect 99% of the world population to need them. However, due to the size of the iOS platform and how much revenues are being generated we are able to get these niche apps developed and sold.

Umm....ok. The classic mistake that Apple fanboys make is that they think everyone is looking for the exact same thing as them. Wow, you got an app before I did. Awesome. I got the same app for free, I also have complete freedom with the software that I use due to it being open source. I can hack away at it as much as I want, it's not only allowed it's encouraged.

That's funny considering what you wrote that's quoted above. You're asking us to show you an app on iOS that you need/want. Yet in this post you're saying everyone's need/wants are different.

People who have been buying Apple products like MacOS don't care about looking for the exact same thing as everyone else. Mac users get more crap from Windows users than the reverse. I haven't owned a Mac computer in 15 years and I can tell you the crap that a Mac users goes through from the "superior" Windows users is ridiculous.

And I love FOSS as much as the next guy. However, there are a lot of pro level tools that are simply not as polished and not usable by a lot of pros. GIMP is not a bad editor and usable for most in a non-production environment but it's no Photoshop. Heck, MacOS is based on the Mach kernal which is a FOSS.

I've been perfectly happy with my Android experience. I've gotten every app that I could possibly want. I'm also supporting FOSS and the open source community, which is much more important to me than how much money Apple or Google make.
Good for you. I'm not being sarcastic either. It's your money and the fact that you spent it wisely on a device that suits your needs makes you a good consumer. I have an iOS device. Android phones are nice but it doesn't have some niche apps I need. For my needs, which are different from yours, an iPhone makes more sense. Most of my apps are free. I readily admit it. These are some of a group of similar apps freely available on Android. However, I have paid apps not available in any form on Android. For me, an iPhone is the device I need/want.

Newsflash, not everyone cares how much the company that manufactures their consumer devices make.

Apparently you do care considering how many posts you're making and how loudly you're saying you don't care. Usually when a subject doesn't interest me, and there have been plenty, I don't bother to comment.

I am fine with all new paid app development happening on iOS and then maybe sometimes being ported to Android. Let Apple users pay for the initial R&D through their App store, they seem to enjoy it, and even brag about it on forums. I am not very interested in paid apps, plus it helps filter out the bad and mediocre paid apps because they first have to make it on iOS before being ported to Android, so Android market should end up having only the good paid apps that get that far.

This is rich. Isn't software support one of the major reasons why Apple Mac users have been crapped on for years? Now that an Apple product has the best app support it's now a negative? Wow. Just wow. And good luck on certain apps coming to Android. It's mainly games that I've noticed but Epic and iD Software have specifically said they have no plans to develop games on Android. I wouldn't be surprised if there are more developers in different software segments who are simply not interested in Android development when looking at the revenues iOS is bringing in and what Android is bringing in. This is also the same reason several prominent Mac developers have depreciated Mac development over the years.
 

JD50

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That's ridiculous. Everyone's opinions are different. Everyone's views are different. What you like is not what I like. Neither I, nor Cheezy, can read your mind. How the hell would we know what you want?

Yes, that's my point.

What I can say is that there are niche apps that are available on iOS that are not available on Android or BB that I use. These are paid for apps. I don't expect 99% of the world population to need them. However, due to the size of the iOS platform and how much revenues are being generated we are able to get these niche apps developed and sold.
And there are plenty of things that you can do with an Android device that you can't do with an iPhone...

That's funny considering what you wrote that's quoted above. You're asking us to show you an app on iOS that you need/want. Yet in this post you're saying everyone's need/wants are different.
Again, that's my point. I'm not the one trying to say that the iPhone and it's apps are better, that's cheezy. How the hell could you or anyone else tell me what is better for me? That's what cheezy and the other apple fanboys try and do. HE is the one "fixing" my posts claiming that I'm waiting an extra 6 months for an app to be ported over to Android. How he knows what app I'm waiting for is beyond me.

People who have been buying Apple products like MacOS don't care about looking for the exact same thing as everyone else. Mac users get more crap from Windows users than the reverse. I haven't owned a Mac computer in 15 years and I can tell you the crap that a Mac users goes through from the "superior" Windows users is ridiculous.
Again, you're agreeing with another one of my points. Apple fanboys are sounding more and more like the Microsoft fanboys that would always bash apple users. Take your above paragraph and replace Mac/Apple with Android and replace Windows with Mac/Apple. Funny how that works huh?
And I love FOSS as much as the next guy. However, there are a lot of pro level tools that are simply not as polished and not usable by a lot of pros. GIMP is not a bad editor and usable for most in a non-production environment but it's no Photoshop. Heck, MacOS is based on the Mach kernal which is a FOSS.
No argument from me there. Although, the fact that MacOS is based on the Mach kernel is irrelevant. OEL is basically a clone of RHEL/CentOS, that doesn't mean that Oracle is a FOSS company.
Good for you. I'm not being sarcastic either. It's your money and the fact that you spent it wisely on a device that suits your needs makes you a good consumer. I have an iOS device. Android phones are nice but it doesn't have some niche apps I need. For my needs, which are different from yours, an iPhone makes more sense. Most of my apps are free. I readily admit it. These are some of a group of similar apps freely available on Android. However, I have paid apps not available in any form on Android. For me, an iPhone is the device I need/want.
Looks like we agree again, Apple products are great for some people, so are Android devices.

Apparently you do care considering how many posts you're making and how loudly you're saying you don't care. Usually when a subject doesn't interest me, and there have been plenty, I don't bother to comment.
No, I don't care how much money Apple or Google make, I care when fanboys use that statistic to somehow claim that one company is better or worse than the other and that a certain piece of software is better or worse than the other.
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Sounds like overall we pretty much agree.