midwestfisherman
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No one cares what the idiots from moveon.org has to say. I'm glad they didn't air it. Let them take thier b*thcin' and gripin' elsewhere.
It's just a boob for God's sake. Some of you people act like it's the end of modern civilization. In fact, the people disgusted by this act promote being ashamed of one's body. Get over it.
I was watching the football game with my familly and we called our younger girls into the room to watch the half-time show. Their ages: 5,5,7 and 11. Needless to say we were none to pleased about the stunt, it was crude and uneccessary.
This goes out to the pimply faced, never going to get a girlfriend, no moral, losers on this site who are saying, "who cares it's a boob get over it."
1. CBS is a broadcast channel and has to comply with very strict rules on what they can and can't show. CBS also has to apply ratings to their shows. The Super Bowl was given a rating that was acceptable for children to watch. The bottom line is- CBS is not allowed to show any type of nudity during this time slot.
2. What Justin did could have been considered sexual assault. If you noticed Janet had a suprised look after he tore the cup off her breast. Perhaps, attempting to make it seems like the action was unplanned. This sends the message to children, "It's okay to grab a female's breasts."
3. It doesn't matter how fast it happened. My 5 year old sister saw it and said, "oh my gosh that's so rude." How exactly do my parents explain to her that it was a planned publicity stunt and Janet wanted Justin to do it?
4. Many are making the argument listen to the lyrics what did you expect? Those lyrics are perfectly acceptable on broadcast radio. And while they aren't necessarilly good for a childs' ears, their not against FCC rules either. Nudity at 8pm is against FCC rules.
5. Someone compared the nudity on the Super Bowl to Titanic and its PG-13 rating. The nudity in Titanic was showcasing the beauty of the human body and the art of nude paintings. The super bowl nudity scene was a male ripping the clothes off a female. There was nothing wholesome about what happened on the Super Bowl; if that occured in a movie it would get an R rating.
This goes out to the pimply faced, never going to get a girlfriend, no moral, losers on this site who are saying, "who cares it's a boob get over it."
1. CBS is a broadcast channel and has to comply with very strict rules on what they can and can't show. CBS also has to apply ratings to their shows. The Super Bowl was given a rating that was acceptable for children to watch. The bottom line is- CBS is not allowed to show any type of nudity during this time slot.
2. What Justin did could have been considered sexual assault. If you noticed Janet had a suprised look after he tore the cup off her breast. Perhaps, attempting to make it seems like the action was unplanned. This sends the message to children, "It's okay to grab a female's breasts."
3. It doesn't matter how fast it happened. My 5 year old sister saw it and said, "oh my gosh that's so rude." How exactly do my parents explain to her that it was a planned publicity stunt and Janet wanted Justin to do it?
4. Many are making the argument listen to the lyrics what did you expect? Those lyrics are perfectly acceptable on broadcast radio. And while they aren't necessarilly good for a childs' ears, their not against FCC rules either. Nudity at 8pm is against FCC rules.
5. Someone compared the nudity on the Super Bowl to Titanic and its PG-13 rating. The nudity in Titanic was showcasing the beauty of the human body and the art of nude paintings. The super bowl nudity scene was a male ripping the clothes off a female. There was nothing wholesome about what happened on the Super Bowl; if that occured in a movie it would get an R rating.
That's a wee bit of a reach. Let's put it this way. To produce waste and eliminate it is every bit as natural as our bodies are and therefore, isn't something we should be ashamed of. That being said, would you take a crap in public? I highly doubt it. I'll even do you one better. Would you drop your pants in the middle of a grocery store so everyone so inclined could look? I somehow doubt you'd do that either. Your idealisim is nice and all but incorrect.
Also, has it dawned on you that some of us might be upset at the reason and timing with which CBS did this and not the act itself?
And after all of that you failed to convince me(based on prior year's shows) why you would tell your kids to come watch a half-time show that was advertised to include Kid Rock, Justin Timberlake, and Janet Jackson.
Look, I'm not saying it was right for this to happen, but there is zero evidence that CBS knew it was going to happen or allowed it to. Now if they did then the FCC will fine them, and their advertisers will probably be whizzed off as well. However, saying it was sexual assault is so stupendous that I fear for your kid's safety. They need a father not an over-reactionary disciplinarian. I'd be ticked off too if I had kids and they saw that(and I didn't want them to). The best thing you all can do is what you are doing. Complain to CBS and to the FCC. Calling it "Sexual Assault" however is simply asinine, and saying that you thought a Nelly, Kid Rock, Justin Timberlake, Janet Jackson show was for kids well... it just shows you are either naive, or ineffective.
And in the US it's legal to create pictures where it looks as a child has been abused as long as it didn't happen for real. Great way to give pedophiles (like Janet's brother) new ideas for their next victims. Your point being?
Anyway, this was clearly staged, they just say it was accidental now as people overreacted as usual.
I'm 20 years old, not a father but a brother. I'm not trying to say whether CBS knew or not. I simply wanted to show
why it was not a correct venue for the stunt.
Kids watching Half-Time Show-
I am unwaivered on saying that the show should have been for kids. If Jenna Jameson made a kids movie with a PG rating should I not allow them to see it because of Jenna Jameson's association with hardcore pornography? No, the show has a PG rating and is therefore appropriate to show to children, the same as the Super Bowl.
Sexual Assault-
I'm not saying that Justin sexually assaulted Janet in front of millions of people. I'm saying the way the act was done, with Justin just grabbing the breast of a suprised Janet, appeared to condone the act of males grabbing the breast of unconsenting females.
Dissipate
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UPDATE! Janet Jackson did NOT have a pasty. The Drudge Report has just learned that:
Drudge Report
If you click that, the Drudge Report has a link to an up close picture which clearly shows that Janet Jackson's nipple was exposed during the stunt.
Drudge Report
If you click that, the Drudge Report has a link to an up close picture which clearly shows that Janet Jackson's nipple was exposed during the stunt.
lol if it was an accident:
1. why was she waring the solar nipple thing
2. what was justin supposed to be doing when this accident occured?
1. why was she waring the solar nipple thing
2. what was justin supposed to be doing when this accident occured?
This is the part that I find extremely insulting. Justin Timberlake is quaoted as saying:
"I am sorry that anyone was offended by the wardrobe malfunction during the halftime performance of the Super Bowl," Timberlake said in a statement. "It was not intentional and is regrettable."
A wardrobe malfunction? What the hell does that mean? When he grabbed the cup holding her breast in and pulled what was supposed to happen? Apparently, some malfunction didn't yield the expected results similar to a David Copperfield routine.
Pliablemoose
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Still have mixed emotions about the whole thing, am glad my daughters were out of the room. Am now spared the whole "What is nipple jewelery" lecture with my 11 & 14 year old daughters.
The pre game MTV press release, and the nipple jewelery clearly indicate it was scripted. Why the hell did someone @ CBS approve it?
Yeah the US had double standards, but there's a difference between Nat Geographic & the Superbowl.
What are you guys talking about? I saw 2 boobs
One was Janet's right breast, the other one was Justin Timberlake
The pre game MTV press release, and the nipple jewelery clearly indicate it was scripted. Why the hell did someone @ CBS approve it?
Yeah the US had double standards, but there's a difference between Nat Geographic & the Superbowl.
What are you guys talking about? I saw 2 boobs
One was Janet's right breast, the other one was Justin Timberlake
GTaudiophile
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According to what I heard on the news this morning, CBS is saying MTV will never host another Superbowl halftime show again.
haha, you guys are all uber dorks. Such a big thread about some little boobage? Yeah, that's America.
DAMN.....are you people just so dense you can't understand this simple idea??? PARENTS SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO MAKE THEIR OWN DECISIONS ABOUT WHAT THEIR KIDS WATCH. It does not matter if you agree or not. They are parents and decide what their kids watch. CBS/MTV took away that ability.
You keep wanting to harp on the fact that it was just a boob. Well that isn't the point. It is the whole damn idea that CBS/MTV didn't follow the rating system they agreed too and put on something sexual during a show that should not contain such things.
AGAIN for the dense. Parent have to be able to decide how to raise their kids. You do not have to agree because opinions are like assholes and you opinion on parenting doesn't mean sh*t to me.
You keep wanting to harp on the fact that it was just a boob. Well that isn't the point. It is the whole damn idea that CBS/MTV didn't follow the rating system they agreed too and put on something sexual during a show that should not contain such things.
AGAIN for the dense. Parent have to be able to decide how to raise their kids. You do not have to agree because opinions are like assholes and you opinion on parenting doesn't mean sh*t to me.
I think the problem with you people is you think kids are some dumb animals. This was a big SHOW. Anyone can tell the difference between a show and reality. If you think it should not have been shown because it promoted sexual assault, I suggest you ban your kids from watching cartoons. When I was a kid, cartoons were promoting hitting animals over the head with HUGE hammers.
Let's look at this honestly. It wasn't sexual assault that pissed people off, it was JJ's breast being revealed. Now why is it ok for a woman to show her leg, but not her breast. Men can show their chest, why can't women? And why can women show their breast as long as the nipple is covered? What is the point of that? Is the nipple evil?
No, you are partially correct. A breast is a simple thing to explain to a child. A child could watch a mother breast feed her new born on the Discovery channel. Although there is nudity, it's wholesome loving nudity.
However, the context of the nudity at the half time show was not wholesome. It was a man ripping the clothes off a seemingly unconsenting woman. In my part of the United States, you can be arrested for that.
I'll agree with you, nudity should have never been a part of the half time show; however, the context of the nudity made it much worse.
It the Puritan American interest. I find it funny that people are outraged over a little sexuality that was shown amidst the broadcast of a violent sport. So its fine to celebrate men bashing and hitting each other, but god forbid a little skin is shown.
It starts to makes sense why we go to war so often.
It starts to makes sense why we go to war so often.
I agree entirely. There's a 5-year old in the house and it's awful to think that she cannot watch sports with us lest she see something inappropriate... that doesn't even relate to the sport!
Pliablemoose
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