Apparently CBS execs OK'd the Janet bewbie thing...

[RagingBITCH]

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: Mill

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: JackBurton

Originally posted by: conjur
AGAIN, it was the WHOLE ACT!

It was damn near an enactment of a rape! Justin grabbing her breast, ripping her clothes and her bare tit bouncing out. And, yes, I've seen the full-screen HD shots and her nipple and areola are quite visible. It's a type of ring around the nipple with a sunburst pattern so, yeah, it's nudity during "children's hour" on broadcast TV.

PLEASE stop the BS! If JJ were walking around the stage the whole time with a boob hanging out, you'd be just as pissed. Don't try and pull this "rape" crap.

Two different things.

And I'm not alone in seeing this as a type of violent sexual act.

Are you high? That was a violent sexual act?

That was my first thought when I saw that. And I'm far from a prude. That act was simply something that should not have been performed on Live Broadcast TV at that hour...or any hour, imo.

Um, no you are alone in seeing this as a type of violent sexual act. No one else has called this a rape but you. It it was rape it would not have been scripted and Janet would have filed charges against him.

 

[OutHouse]

Originally posted by: RagingBITCH

Originally posted by: Citrix
so what, America saw her boob. my bitch is Nelly stoking himself every 2 fricken seconds, it even looked like he had a stiffy.

You were looking too?

CBS tried to cut away or do tighter shots but they didnt do a very good job of it. So i know the dudes in the trailer switching cameras saw tentage as well.

 

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: FallenHero
Hrmmm...the parents vs. the geeks with no morals who have no kids arguing about what is best for children. I wonder who's opinion is more valid...

Neither.

How could your opinion, as a person with no children, be just as valid as those that do in terms of raising kids and what they can and cannot see?

 

[NFS4]

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: Mill

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: JackBurton

Originally posted by: conjur
AGAIN, it was the WHOLE ACT!

It was damn near an enactment of a rape! Justin grabbing her breast, ripping her clothes and her bare tit bouncing out. And, yes, I've seen the full-screen HD shots and her nipple and areola are quite visible. It's a type of ring around the nipple with a sunburst pattern so, yeah, it's nudity during "children's hour" on broadcast TV.

PLEASE stop the BS! If JJ were walking around the stage the whole time with a boob hanging out, you'd be just as pissed. Don't try and pull this "rape" crap.

Two different things.

And I'm not alone in seeing this as a type of violent sexual act.

Are you high? That was a violent sexual act?

That was my first thought when I saw that. And I'm far from a prude. That act was simply something that should not have been performed on Live Broadcast TV at that hour...or any hour, imo.

How about the MCD's commercial with the man and his wife going at it b/c of the wrapper being left in the dryer?
What about the commercials for erectile disfunction and talking about prolonged erections may require you to seek medical attention?
What about the commercial with the horse farting in the woman's face and setting her on fire?
What about the commercial with the monkey trying to get it on with the guy's girlfriend?

Should we have gotten rid of those too?

 

[Aharami]

the issue shouldnt be with seein janet's tit. the issue should be with why could CBS show nudity but didnt air the commercial that was on moveon.org?

 

[NFS4]

Originally posted by: FallenHero

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: FallenHero
Hrmmm...the parents vs. the geeks with no morals who have no kids arguing about what is best for children. I wonder who's opinion is more valid...

Neither.

How could your opinion, as a person with no children, be just as valid as those that do in terms of raising kids and what they can and cannot see?

Being a parent doesn't make you a moral authority.

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: NFS4

How about the MCD's commercial with the man and his wife going at it b/c of the wrapper being left in the dryer?
What about the commercials for erectile disfunction and talking about prolonged erections may require you to seek medical attention?
What about the commercial with the horse farting in the woman's face and setting her on fire?
What about the commercial with the monkey trying to get it on with the guy's girlfriend?

Should we have gotten rid of those too?

I didn't see those, and neither did my daughter. She heard Justin was going to be on at halftime and came in then but I wasn't in there until the last 10 secs. of him and Janet.

 

[Mill]

Originally posted by: Deslocke

Originally posted by: Mill
What cracks me up is that the boob thing was at the end of the show. If Justin and her groping each other were so bad, then the kids should have been sent out to begin with. I'm not saying I felt it was an appropriate thing to happen, but lewd things are talked about/shown on TV all day, and talked about on the radio. If people want to shelter their kids it's going to make it much worse for them when they get out into the real world. I was sheltered by my parents and it was a bad decision on their part.

I was sheltered by my parents and I think it was a great decision... especially when I look around at how most guys my age view women.

and if you were curious, I'm 17 and my parents are very religious, but I'm not. the way I was raised hasn't kept me from thinking for myself (since this seems to be a popular argument), and I don't think that's typically the case either.

You're 17. I highly doubt you've had time to decide the harm or benefit to your parents sheltering you.

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: NFS4

Being a parent doesn't make you a moral authority.

But it opens your eyes to things that really are inappropriate for children to see.

One day, you'll understand.

 

[thirtythree]

Originally posted by: Mill

Originally posted by: Deslocke

Originally posted by: Mill
What cracks me up is that the boob thing was at the end of the show. If Justin and her groping each other were so bad, then the kids should have been sent out to begin with. I'm not saying I felt it was an appropriate thing to happen, but lewd things are talked about/shown on TV all day, and talked about on the radio. If people want to shelter their kids it's going to make it much worse for them when they get out into the real world. I was sheltered by my parents and it was a bad decision on their part.

I was sheltered by my parents and I think it was a great decision... especially when I look around at how most guys my age view women.

and if you were curious, I'm 17 and my parents are very religious, but I'm not. the way I was raised hasn't kept me from thinking for myself (since this seems to be a popular argument), and I don't think that's typically the case either.

You're 17. I highly doubt you've had time to decide the harm or benefit to your parents sheltering you.

all right. enlighten me. how has it harmed you?

 

[NFS4]

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: NFS4

How about the MCD's commercial with the man and his wife going at it b/c of the wrapper being left in the dryer?
What about the commercials for erectile disfunction and talking about prolonged erections may require you to seek medical attention?
What about the commercial with the horse farting in the woman's face and setting her on fire?
What about the commercial with the monkey trying to get it on with the guy's girlfriend?

Should we have gotten rid of those too?

I didn't see those, and neither did my daughter. She heard Justin was going to be on at halftime and came in then but I wasn't in there until the last 10 secs. of him and Janet.

So you're basing your comments on seeing the last 10 seconds of the Justin/Janet act, yet you are not taking into consideration that "lewd" acts were taking place all during the telecast.

 

[Aharami]

Originally posted by: ThePresence

Originally posted by: TubStain
Apology on the Super Bowl website:

Apology

It's unlikely that MTV will produce another Super Bowl halftime."
Good.

agreed!! i think MTV is utter crap. its just mindless television

 

[Mill]

Originally posted by: Deslocke

Originally posted by: Mill

Originally posted by: Deslocke

Originally posted by: Mill
What cracks me up is that the boob thing was at the end of the show. If Justin and her groping each other were so bad, then the kids should have been sent out to begin with. I'm not saying I felt it was an appropriate thing to happen, but lewd things are talked about/shown on TV all day, and talked about on the radio. If people want to shelter their kids it's going to make it much worse for them when they get out into the real world. I was sheltered by my parents and it was a bad decision on their part.

I was sheltered by my parents and I think it was a great decision... especially when I look around at how most guys my age view women.

and if you were curious, I'm 17 and my parents are very religious, but I'm not. the way I was raised hasn't kept me from thinking for myself (since this seems to be a popular argument), and I don't think that's typically the case either.

You're 17. I highly doubt you've had time to decide the harm or benefit to your parents sheltering you.

all right. enlighten me. how has it harmed you?

Because I was taught that certain things were bad when they were not. I was taught certain things were good when they were not, and it was all done with a heavy religious basis. That's how it was harmful to me.

 

[JBT]

Get over it people

 

[thirtythree]

Originally posted by: Mill

Originally posted by: Deslocke

Originally posted by: Mill

Originally posted by: Deslocke

Originally posted by: Mill
What cracks me up is that the boob thing was at the end of the show. If Justin and her groping each other were so bad, then the kids should have been sent out to begin with. I'm not saying I felt it was an appropriate thing to happen, but lewd things are talked about/shown on TV all day, and talked about on the radio. If people want to shelter their kids it's going to make it much worse for them when they get out into the real world. I was sheltered by my parents and it was a bad decision on their part.

I was sheltered by my parents and I think it was a great decision... especially when I look around at how most guys my age view women.

and if you were curious, I'm 17 and my parents are very religious, but I'm not. the way I was raised hasn't kept me from thinking for myself (since this seems to be a popular argument), and I don't think that's typically the case either.

You're 17. I highly doubt you've had time to decide the harm or benefit to your parents sheltering you.

all right. enlighten me. how has it harmed you?

Because I was taught that certain things were bad when they were not. I was taught certain things were good when they were not, and it was all done with a heavy religious basis. That's how it was harmful to me.

and you were rendered incapable of deciding what was right and wrong for yourself later in life? just curious, what religion?

 

[Mill]

Originally posted by: Deslocke

Originally posted by: Mill

Originally posted by: Deslocke

Originally posted by: Mill

Originally posted by: Deslocke

Originally posted by: Mill
What cracks me up is that the boob thing was at the end of the show. If Justin and her groping each other were so bad, then the kids should have been sent out to begin with. I'm not saying I felt it was an appropriate thing to happen, but lewd things are talked about/shown on TV all day, and talked about on the radio. If people want to shelter their kids it's going to make it much worse for them when they get out into the real world. I was sheltered by my parents and it was a bad decision on their part.

I was sheltered by my parents and I think it was a great decision... especially when I look around at how most guys my age view women.

and if you were curious, I'm 17 and my parents are very religious, but I'm not. the way I was raised hasn't kept me from thinking for myself (since this seems to be a popular argument), and I don't think that's typically the case either.

You're 17. I highly doubt you've had time to decide the harm or benefit to your parents sheltering you.

all right. enlighten me. how has it harmed you?

Because I was taught that certain things were bad when they were not. I was taught certain things were good when they were not, and it was all done with a heavy religious basis. That's how it was harmful to me.

and you were rendered incapable of deciding what was right and wrong for yourself later in life? just curious, what religion?

If I was rendered incapable then why would I be commenting on the harm of it? And just because you EVENTUALLY reach your own conclusion doesn't mean that brainwashing doesn't delay and harm you to begin with. It's inconsequential what religion, but it is Christianity.

 

[thirtythree]

Originally posted by: Mill
If I was rendered incapable then why would I be commenting on the harm of it? And just because you EVENTUALLY reach your own conclusion doesn't mean that brainwashing doesn't delay and harm you to begin with. It's inconsequential what religion, but it is Christianity.

perhaps your situation was different than mine then because I've never thought of it as brainwashing. I simply see it as a difference of opinion, and I do think that I got a decent sense of what's right and wrong out of it. sure, they weren't perfect, and they were a bit extreme in many ways, but they managed to get the point across and now I'm able to take what's valuable to me from it.

 

[MAME]

Originally posted by: Mill

Originally posted by: Deslocke

Originally posted by: Mill
What cracks me up is that the boob thing was at the end of the show. If Justin and her groping each other were so bad, then the kids should have been sent out to begin with. I'm not saying I felt it was an appropriate thing to happen, but lewd things are talked about/shown on TV all day, and talked about on the radio. If people want to shelter their kids it's going to make it much worse for them when they get out into the real world. I was sheltered by my parents and it was a bad decision on their part.

I was sheltered by my parents and I think it was a great decision... especially when I look around at how most guys my age view women.

and if you were curious, I'm 17 and my parents are very religious, but I'm not. the way I was raised hasn't kept me from thinking for myself (since this seems to be a popular argument), and I don't think that's typically the case either.

You're 17. I highly doubt you've had time to decide the harm or benefit to your parents sheltering you.

True. Having a sheltered life ESPECIALLY driven by religion is as far from natural as you can get.

 

[flxnimprtmscl]

Originally posted by: Mill

Originally posted by: Deslocke

Originally posted by: Mill

Originally posted by: Deslocke

Originally posted by: Mill

Originally posted by: Deslocke

Originally posted by: Mill
What cracks me up is that the boob thing was at the end of the show. If Justin and her groping each other were so bad, then the kids should have been sent out to begin with. I'm not saying I felt it was an appropriate thing to happen, but lewd things are talked about/shown on TV all day, and talked about on the radio. If people want to shelter their kids it's going to make it much worse for them when they get out into the real world. I was sheltered by my parents and it was a bad decision on their part.

I was sheltered by my parents and I think it was a great decision... especially when I look around at how most guys my age view women.

and if you were curious, I'm 17 and my parents are very religious, but I'm not. the way I was raised hasn't kept me from thinking for myself (since this seems to be a popular argument), and I don't think that's typically the case either.

You're 17. I highly doubt you've had time to decide the harm or benefit to your parents sheltering you.

all right. enlighten me. how has it harmed you?

Because I was taught that certain things were bad when they were not. I was taught certain things were good when they were not, and it was all done with a heavy religious basis. That's how it was harmful to me.

and you were rendered incapable of deciding what was right and wrong for yourself later in life? just curious, what religion?

If I was rendered incapable then why would I be commenting on the harm of it? And just because you EVENTUALLY reach your own conclusion doesn't mean that brainwashing doesn't delay and harm you to begin with. It's inconsequential what religion, but it is Christianity.

Ok, curiosity killed the cat but I must know; what decision(s) did your "brainwashing" keep you from making that would have had a positive effect on your life? Or, what decision(s) did your brainwashing force you to make that were detrimental to you?

Basically, it's easy to say that what you were taught as a child hurt you somehow but lets have some instances where it clearly did just that.

 

[flxnimprtmscl]

DP

 

[Mill]

Originally posted by: Deslocke

Originally posted by: Mill
If I was rendered incapable then why would I be commenting on the harm of it? And just because you EVENTUALLY reach your own conclusion doesn't mean that brainwashing doesn't delay and harm you to begin with. It's inconsequential what religion, but it is Christianity.

perhaps your situation was different than mine then because I've never thought of it as brainwashing. I simply see it as a difference of opinion, and I do think that I got a decent sense of what's right and wrong out of it. sure, they weren't perfect, and they were a bit extreme in many ways, but they managed to get the point across and now I'm able to take what's valuable to me from it.

Your perspective will change.

 

[thirtythree]

Originally posted by: Mill

Originally posted by: Deslocke

Originally posted by: Mill
If I was rendered incapable then why would I be commenting on the harm of it? And just because you EVENTUALLY reach your own conclusion doesn't mean that brainwashing doesn't delay and harm you to begin with. It's inconsequential what religion, but it is Christianity.

perhaps your situation was different than mine then because I've never thought of it as brainwashing. I simply see it as a difference of opinion, and I do think that I got a decent sense of what's right and wrong out of it. sure, they weren't perfect, and they were a bit extreme in many ways, but they managed to get the point across and now I'm able to take what's valuable to me from it.

Your perspective will change.

you sure know me well for someone who knows nothing about me...

 

[kenshorin]

Originally posted by: Aharami

Originally posted by: ThePresence

Originally posted by: TubStain
Apology on the Super Bowl website:

Apology

It's unlikely that MTV will produce another Super Bowl halftime."
Good.

agreed!! i think MTV is utter crap. its just mindless television

My main complaint isn't the boob, or the obvious lipsynching, but just that the whole production was so spastic it seemed like it was produced by a chimpanzee on acid. It gave me a headache, literally.

 

[Mill]

Originally posted by: flxnimprtmscl

Originally posted by: Mill

Originally posted by: Deslocke

Originally posted by: Mill

Originally posted by: Deslocke

Originally posted by: Mill

Originally posted by: Deslocke

Originally posted by: Mill
What cracks me up is that the boob thing was at the end of the show. If Justin and her groping each other were so bad, then the kids should have been sent out to begin with. I'm not saying I felt it was an appropriate thing to happen, but lewd things are talked about/shown on TV all day, and talked about on the radio. If people want to shelter their kids it's going to make it much worse for them when they get out into the real world. I was sheltered by my parents and it was a bad decision on their part.

I was sheltered by my parents and I think it was a great decision... especially when I look around at how most guys my age view women.

and if you were curious, I'm 17 and my parents are very religious, but I'm not. the way I was raised hasn't kept me from thinking for myself (since this seems to be a popular argument), and I don't think that's typically the case either.

You're 17. I highly doubt you've had time to decide the harm or benefit to your parents sheltering you.

all right. enlighten me. how has it harmed you?

Because I was taught that certain things were bad when they were not. I was taught certain things were good when they were not, and it was all done with a heavy religious basis. That's how it was harmful to me.

and you were rendered incapable of deciding what was right and wrong for yourself later in life? just curious, what religion?

If I was rendered incapable then why would I be commenting on the harm of it? And just because you EVENTUALLY reach your own conclusion doesn't mean that brainwashing doesn't delay and harm you to begin with. It's inconsequential what religion, but it is Christianity.

Ok, curiosity killed the cat but I must know; what decision(s) did your "brainwashing" keep you from making that would have had a positive effect on your life? Or, what decision(s) did your brainwashing force you to make that were detrimental to you?

Basically, it's easy to say that what you were taught as a child hurt you somehow but lets have some instances where it clearly did just that.

Guilt. Choices about my life, school, etc. If you want specificity you're asking the wrong person. I try to keep at least some of my personal life off of AT, but I can say this. Religious counseling and brainwashing made me unable to deal with tragedy in my life for a long time, and I'm still trying to work it out. I'd say the worst thing anything Christianity related is making someone feel guilt over things that they find out aren't even bad.

 

[Aharami]

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: NFS4

My point with the HBO reference is that it isn't anything they haven't seen already. As for your other comments, if your daughter loves Justin, she's already seen him gropin' and grabbin' on MTV...have you seen any of his music videos? And before you go off on a rant saying that MTV is a "premium" channel, teenie boppers and Timberlake fans hover around MTV.

My daughter does not watch MTV. I do not allow them to watch that. I also don't let them listen to certain songs of his. I'll rip the songs I think are ok for her (she's 9) and burn them onto another CD for her.

And, they do not watch HBO after 9pm (or anytime when there is a movie that I don't think they need to watch). And, my youngest will even police herself. If she's at a friend's house and they're watching, say, Titanic, she'll leave the room at the point of that sex scene.

Well, that's nice that you "police" your kids the way you do.

I, however, am glad that my parents didn't put such restrictions on me. They let me have a TV in my room and they allowed me to pretty much watch whatever I wanted. I turned out OK (I think). Kids are gonna be kids.

The problem I see with putting so many restrictions on kids is that when does it end? When do you allow them to START watching certain things? When they're 17, when they're 18? Puhlease. Let 'em learn as they grow up. I for one will not let my kid live a sheltered life...it just ain't natural.

AGAIN, it was the WHOLE ACT!

It was damn near an enactment of a rape! Justin grabbing her breast, ripping her clothes and her bare tit bouncing out. And, yes, I've seen the full-screen HD shots and her nipple and areola are quite visible. It's a type of ring around the nipple with a sunburst pattern so, yeah, it's nudity during "children's hour" on broadcast TV.

Man! You're patient! and yes, i agree with u. it wasnt the boob that is wrong...but its the fact that justin ripped the clothes off her...making it seem like rape and that its ok to do that. now imagine a little boy who idolizes justin timberlake sees that...he's gonna think its ok for him to rip women's clothes off. what kinda effect do u think thats gonna have on that kid and his life?