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AOC rips both Huckabees. Gloves are off people.

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This woman will be the new Hillary, and they just can't help themselves. I look forward to the obsessive, bloated reactionaries making fools of themselves over one U.S. representative.

If they think she is dumb...Our president thought we could just print more bills to make up the deficit.

As for healthcare..when a price is quoted for single-payer health, employers and citizens will no longer need to pay premiums, and, depending on details, there may no longer be co-pays, or money wasted on deny-coverage red-tape? Most right-wingers are unwilling to even acknowledge that. I've never been sure whether they're really too stupid to understand this, or hope that the Undecideds they're trying to gull are too stupid.

Very clever of the hypocrites to insist on 10-year numbers to inflate the numbers on spending they don't like. In the past they've sometimes been too enthusiastic and gone with 100-year numbers — "Quadrillion dollar cost over the next century; perhaps quintillions if the Hillaryist Inflationary Terrorists have their way"
 
HomerJS said:
This is more like AOCDS. The woman hasn't even taken office and righties are already having a meltdown.

Pretty soon it will be Hillary who? GOP has a new boogeyman.
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Pretty much this.

Unlike Hillary, however, AOC isn't going to shy away from those "fine people" and will confront them head-on. She's pretty much doing what most Democrats are too chickenshit to do.
 
Triloby said:
Pretty much this.

Unlike Hillary, however, AOC isn't going to shy away from those "fine people" and will confront them head-on. She's pretty much doing what most Democrats are too chickenshit to do.
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I don't think it will matter. The GOP is playing the long game. They saw how well several decades of propaganda worked against Hillary and are going to set it up for all the major Democratic players. Start laying the seeds for the campaign you might want to make in 10 years now, and then in 10 years no one will remember it was all just partisan propaganda. They will have heard it often enough for long enough that they assume there must be some truth to it. Welcome to the new politics.
 
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez Demands ‘Living Wage’ For Hill Workers
A study last year by the advocacy group Pay Our Interns found that only 51 percent of Republican senators offer paid internships and just 31 percent of Democrats do. Things are much worse over in the House, where just 8 percent of Republican interns are paid and a measly 3.6 percent of Democrats interns are. ​

Well look at that. Millionaires can't "afford" to pay their staff. AOC has the gall to call them out on it.
 
Another Gem.

Basically Trump Jr said something negative about AOC, then tweeted a meme that said remember socialism leads to eating dogs.

Here response that arrived promptly

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ch33zw1z said:
Guess that depends. I was 100% republican at age 18. 20 years later....I can't find a republican I'd vote for.
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I was a registered republican at 18 myself. But I had to walkaway (#walkaway).

I was looking for strong foreign policy, fiscal responsibility, strong ethics, a government that respects the law and stays out of people’s business while protecting our rights

Republicans had no interest in any of that. So I’ve been voting dem and will continue voting dem for the foreseeable future.
 
VRAMdemon said:
This woman will be the new Hillary, and they just can't help themselves. I look forward to the obsessive, bloated reactionaries making fools of themselves over one U.S. representative.

If they think she is dumb...Our president thought we could just print more bills to make up the deficit.

As for healthcare..when a price is quoted for single-payer health, employers and citizens will no longer need to pay premiums, and, depending on details, there may no longer be co-pays, or money wasted on deny-coverage red-tape? Most right-wingers are unwilling to even acknowledge that. I've never been sure whether they're really too stupid to understand this, or hope that the Undecideds they're trying to gull are too stupid.

Very clever of the hypocrites to insist on 10-year numbers to inflate the numbers on spending they don't like. In the past they've sometimes been too enthusiastic and gone with 100-year numbers — "Quadrillion dollar cost over the next century; perhaps quintillions if the Hillaryist Inflationary Terrorists have their way"
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I don't see AOC becoming a political force. My hunch is she'll end up being Bernie Sanders 2.0. The majority of people don't want sweeping change, they want everything in baby steps.
AOC has made a lot of noise, but I haven't seen any budgets yet.
 
Greenman said:
I don't see AOC becoming a political force. My hunch is she'll end up being Bernie Sanders 2.0. The majority of people don't want sweeping change, they want everything in baby steps.
AOC has made a lot of noise, but I haven't seen any budgets yet.
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So now you want to see a budget? Never saw a post from you wanting to see a budget for trumps wall.

I guess budgets only matter if they are a D...
 
Greenman said:
I don't see AOC becoming a political force. My hunch is she'll end up being Bernie Sanders 2.0. The majority of people don't want sweeping change, they want everything in baby steps.
AOC has made a lot of noise, but I haven't seen any budgets yet.
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The majority of Americans want Medicare for all , even the Republicans poll over 50% on that. If the people didn't want sweeping change, they wouldn't have voted for Trump.
 
Triloby said:
Pretty much this.

Unlike Hillary, however, AOC isn't going to shy away from those "fine people" and will confront them head-on. She's pretty much doing what most Democrats are too chickenshit to do.
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Hillary did call them deplorables.
 
Greenman said:
I don't see AOC becoming a political force. My hunch is she'll end up being Bernie Sanders 2.0. The majority of people don't want sweeping change, they want everything in baby steps.
AOC has made a lot of noise, but I haven't seen any budgets yet.
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She isn’t in office yet
 
Commodus said:
That's the funny part -- you'd think she'd already announced a presidential run and won the primary at the rate Republicans are freaking out. I think they see her as a potential Obama several years down the line... the charismatic, intelligent candidate who rallies minority votes and virtually guarantees a Democrat win.

And they know that demographics are increasingly skewed against Republicans, so there's a real chance that losing power to someone like AOC means they won't get it back without having to drag their policies into the 21st century (that is, acknowledging people who aren't white, straight Christian men).
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Perhaps this is where we need to change paradigms. Instead of seniority we need merit driven system. Someone who is dead wood should not be standing in the way of someone who has demonstrated ability. It's too soon to say AOC has done that since she's not even seated, but she nor anyone else should have to wait until their elder years to be leaders, and to state the reverse someone who is effective shouldn't get kicked out for age.

We need to promote based on demonstrated ability and competence and phase out quickly the old ways.
 
dlerious said:
The majority of Americans want Medicare for all , even the Republicans poll over 50% on that. If the people didn't want sweeping change, they wouldn't have voted for Trump.
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That's the thing, a lot of the people that voted for Turmp specifically did not want change (or wanted to undo change, like some still dwelling on Roe v Wade and the Civil Rights Act level of undo change). Absolutely a good portion of them did want change (and believed his lies) that he was gonna stop corruption, give everybody amazing health care, and all his other bullshit (that people should have been able to see through).

sdifox said:
Hillary did call them deplorables.
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Yeah, I'm not sure why suddenly people are acting like Hilary was some wilting flower. Do you people not remember her in the Benghazi sham hearings? She was getting the Rubs so worked up (just by telling the truth - which was corroborated by others) that they were practically foaming at the mouth. I'm seriously surprised some of them didn't try to physically attack her they were so visibly bothered (especially after openly admitting it was a fucking sham just to try and tear her down, and then they ended up with fucking nothing; I guarantee you that there's probably dozens of sitting Rub politicians that have joked about straight up murdering her). And she stood up to Turmp (she just didn't keep stooping to his dumbass level) in the debates. Hell, just the mention of her name is enough to almost give some Rubs a fucking aneurysm still because of the fact that their bullshit attacks have not taken her down.

That's why the Rubs push their crazy shit rhetoric, because it works even on those that can see through most of it.
 
dlerious said:
The majority of Americans want Medicare for all , even the Republicans poll over 50% on that. If the people didn't want sweeping change, they wouldn't have voted for Trump.
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I'm a little surprised it's only 50%. It's one of those things that's going to have to happen sooner or later.
 
Greenman said:
I don't see AOC becoming a political force. My hunch is she'll end up being Bernie Sanders 2.0. The majority of people don't want sweeping change, they want everything in baby steps.
AOC has made a lot of noise, but I haven't seen any budgets yet.
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well, the majority of people in this country are certainly not conservative by any demographic measure, so sweeping change tends to be the majority movement. However, I agree that this isn't always the best option in every issue. Conservatives, historically, pretty much agreed with every single liberal platform (see: Nixon and before)--the only difference was the rate of progress--as you said.

Thing is, that idea hasn't existed in the GOP for more than 4 decades now. It's weird to claim things that have simply been observably untrue for so long. An actual conservative party would be welcome, to give a balance, measured rate of progress (the actual Atticus Finch, for example), but this party hasn't been anywhere in this country since the early and prior Nixon years. They simply have not. Instead, the extreme anti-conservative evangelicals that have raped the GOP for the last many decades (thanks, Reagan!), have sought to reset the clock on the fundamental idea of democracy--they unequivocally desire a return to bronze-aged Theocracy and Imperial Dictatorship. Make no mistake: it's been the plain message ever since Reagan, Gingrich, and Ailes. You're a fool to argue otherwise. Trump is all of that, and it is plainly obvious to any literate human.

AOC is one of the many enemas that this country absolutely needs, in this time at this hour. SO it goes. Only blame yourselves, GOP...I mean, right? Aren't you guys still trying to blame democrats for electing Trump? lol, that's still really cute and really fucking stupid.
 
Hayabusa Rider said:
Heh, Jr. is hiding in Canada. Like chicken pop I guess.
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My understanding is that it's more about staying away from American cameras if/when the Mueller bomb drops than anything. He may be dumb as a post, but he's smart enough to understand extradition treaties... and to delay direct questions from American journalists.
 
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