Anyone know where to buy a good sword?

[adairusmc]

You want the combat Wakizashi from this site -

http://www.americankami.com/sword.html

 

[Red Irish]

Check out sword makers in Toledo, Spain: they made all the swords for the Lord of the Rings.

 

[Fayd]

Originally posted by: bunnyfubbles

Originally posted by: Newbian
Why bring a knife to a gun fight?

Why bring a gun to a highlander fight? THERE CAN ONLY BE ONE!

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield

Originally posted by: TehMac

Originally posted by: Fayd
i'll never understand the obsession with katanas.

even if we assume japanese swords are inherently cooler than european swords (history shows european steel is better, and if it came to a proper fight, my guess is european swordsmen would win...

mmm, I'm not sure about that.

Katanas are for kiddies, no weight and leaving your body open when fighting, it's retarded.

says the likely big brute type (of which dumb is usually associated with)

how dare we work skill into the equation, let's settle things by sheer strength

RAWR, Samurai > Viking!

yeah, like that's really accurate.

dumbass.

1: the viking is not a good representative of european swordsmanship.
2: it'd be completely naive to think that people outside of japan didnt train extensively with their weapons of choice.

 

[Fayd]

Originally posted by: adairusmc
You want the combat Wakizashi from this site -

http://www.americankami.com/sword.html

wow, i lovethe look of that wakazashi. it's uncurved, so it's more in keeping with a chokuto from what i can tell, but it looks badass. (i prefer uncurved blades...personally...). actually, i like most of those weapons.

edit: awww, i just realized, much to my dismay, that it's only ground on one side.

how sad. it would have been my ideal sword if it was ground on both sides.

 

[ed21x]

Originally posted by: Fayd

Originally posted by: JeffreyLebowski

Originally posted by: Fayd
i'll never understand the obsession with katanas.

even if we assume japanese swords are inherently cooler than european swords (history shows european steel is better, and if it came to a proper fight, my guess is european swordsmen would win... hell, if the european is using a sword breaker, it's a simple matter of trapping the katana and snapping it.) if you're going for a strictly ornamental display, why not go with something not everyone else has?

personally, if i were going for an ornamental sword, i'd get a chokuto.

You don't know much about real sword combat do you. Sword combat was not like you see in movies. Most sword fights only lasted 1-3 moves. And a katana is not meant to block another sword.

I purchased a sword from http://www.musashiswords.com/shop/home.php It was around $150. It's not 100% authentic, and it's made in China, but it's made by actual sword makers, and not in a stamping factory. It's sharp and very well balanced. It will cut Tameshigiri mats, pumpkins, watermelons ect without issue.

i would be mildly offended if i didnt realize you were just another idiot who swears katanas > all.

eh? i've seen demos in Japan where they sliced solid wood blocks in half (in the air no less :Q) standing with the sword in the guard until the block was chucked in the samurai's directly. I kid you not, that is some crazy shit, and probably can't be accomplished with whatever 'shit' steel you claim. considering the japanese' relentless obsession with purity and perfection, I highly doubt the stuff they make is ever of low quality.

 

[hans030390]

Originally posted by: ed21x

Originally posted by: Fayd

Originally posted by: JeffreyLebowski

Originally posted by: Fayd
i'll never understand the obsession with katanas.

even if we assume japanese swords are inherently cooler than european swords (history shows european steel is better, and if it came to a proper fight, my guess is european swordsmen would win... hell, if the european is using a sword breaker, it's a simple matter of trapping the katana and snapping it.) if you're going for a strictly ornamental display, why not go with something not everyone else has?

personally, if i were going for an ornamental sword, i'd get a chokuto.

You don't know much about real sword combat do you. Sword combat was not like you see in movies. Most sword fights only lasted 1-3 moves. And a katana is not meant to block another sword.

I purchased a sword from http://www.musashiswords.com/shop/home.php It was around $150. It's not 100% authentic, and it's made in China, but it's made by actual sword makers, and not in a stamping factory. It's sharp and very well balanced. It will cut Tameshigiri mats, pumpkins, watermelons ect without issue.

i would be mildly offended if i didnt realize you were just another idiot who swears katanas > all.

eh? i've seen demos in Japan where they sliced solid wood blocks in half (in the air no less :Q) standing with the sword in the guard until the block was chucked in the samurai's directly. I kid you not, that is some crazy shit, and probably can't be accomplished with whatever 'shit' steel you claim. considering the japanese' relentless obsession with purity and perfection, I highly doubt the stuff they make is ever of low quality.

Katanas are better. That's all I've ever heard. Super strong, super sharp, lightweight, etc. For brute force, a European sword is definitely better (cause they're, well, bigger and heavier). But for precision and speed, the katana excels. From what I've heard, there was a Mythbusters episode that basically showed the katana dominating others swords (nothing cut another sword in half, but the katana did quite a bit of damage).

 

[Red Irish]

Here's a couple of links:

http://www.swordsfromtoledo.com/aaaa00/index.html

http://www.laespadatoledana.co...t.aspx?c=32&hc=20&md=2

 

[Fayd]

Originally posted by: ed21x

eh? i've seen demos in Japan where they sliced solid wood blocks in half (in the air no less :Q) standing with the sword in the guard until the block was chucked in the samurai's directly. I kid you not, that is some crazy shit, and probably can't be accomplished with whatever 'shit' steel you claim. considering the japanese' relentless obsession with purity and perfection, I highly doubt the stuff they make is ever of low quality.

oh but it is.

japanese steel IS shit. that's why the whole system of swordsmanship in japan evolved to try to take that into account.

swordplay in japan focuses very heavily on mobility, so that the swords never meet. if they do meet, then there's a chance that a sword will break. would you risk something worth a shitload of land just to parry?

the forging style of folded steel was done in order to remove impurities, to try to solve the shitty steel problem. it doesnt do so entirely. (though it does make a nice effect on the sword...)

the hardening process where the edge is harder than the back is done in order to make the sword stand up better to a parry. again, not a guaranteed. and it makes the reverse edge impossible to sharpen and use as a sword edge. thus, you cant have dual bladed swords.

the katana itself is designed as a slicing sword, rather than a cleaving sword. (european swords are cleaving and piercing, mostly.)

 

[Fayd]

Originally posted by: hans030390

Katanas are better. That's all I've ever heard. Super strong, super sharp, lightweight, etc. For brute force, a European sword is definitely better (cause they're, well, bigger and heavier). But for precision and speed, the katana excels. From what I've heard, there was a Mythbusters episode that basically showed the katana dominating others swords (nothing cut another sword in half, but the katana did quite a bit of damage).

and yet you're too stupid to think about it logically?

they're not super strong. they're super WEAK. yes, they're inherently sharp, because they rely on slicing rather than cleaving. a european sword can afford to be a bit duller, because it's not relying on the draw stroke, but the chop.

in addition, you have to remember the armor at the time. weapons evolve with armor. european armor consisted generally of tightly woven steel rings that laid flat. they could easily resist a katana slash. hence the need for cleaving, and more importantly, piercing weapons. neither a katana nor a wakazashi are piercing weapons. wheras japanese armor was loosely woven rings overlaid with leather straps. any decent strike from the katana would go through.

 

[Sea Moose]

Get a Ka Bar, much better quality than any sword you can afford
You can get commemorative Ka Bars.... did your old man or grandpa serve crono?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ka_bar <-- The Ka Bar helped the usa win ww2. Much more relevant than a cheap fake samauri sword made in indonesia by children that will rust within 4 months.


Ka Bar = Win

 

[PieIsAwesome]

Medieval European swords were far from slow or clumsy, and Katanas were not exactly light or indestructible.

"The katana's exceptionally hard edge was prone to chipping and needed frequent re-polishing and its blade could break or bend the same as any other sword might (...and no, they won't slice through cars or chop into concrete pillars either). It was not designed to take a great deal of abuse, and is not as resilient in flexibility nor intended to directly oppose soft or hard armors as some forms of Medieval swords had to be. "

Some of you should read this.

 

[Sea Moose]

PieISAwesome <---- Greatest most relevant name ever.

Win for you

 

[Udgnim]

screw traditional swords, buy Frostmourne: http://img373.imageshack.us/img373/2991/image341xf1.jpg

 

[Sea Moose]

Originally posted by: Udgnim
screw traditional swords, buy Frostmourne: http://img373.imageshack.us/img373/2991/image341xf1.jpg

fucking this this this



THIS ALREADY!


You rock for adding this Udgnim

 

[0roo0roo]

Originally posted by: Fayd

Originally posted by: hans030390

Katanas are better. That's all I've ever heard. Super strong, super sharp, lightweight, etc. For brute force, a European sword is definitely better (cause they're, well, bigger and heavier). But for precision and speed, the katana excels. From what I've heard, there was a Mythbusters episode that basically showed the katana dominating others swords (nothing cut another sword in half, but the katana did quite a bit of damage).

and yet you're too stupid to think about it logically?

they're not super strong. they're super WEAK. yes, they're inherently sharp, because they rely on slicing rather than cleaving. a european sword can afford to be a bit duller, because it's not relying on the draw stroke, but the chop.

in addition, you have to remember the armor at the time. weapons evolve with armor. european armor consisted generally of tightly woven steel rings that laid flat. they could easily resist a katana slash. hence the need for cleaving, and more importantly, piercing weapons. neither a katana nor a wakazashi are piercing weapons. wheras japanese armor was loosely woven rings overlaid with leather straps. any decent strike from the katana would go through.

wrong, the katana was inherently strong because it bonded a flexible metal body with a very hard edge. effectively two metals, one sword.

 

[BillGates]

NERDS

 

[JJ650]

Originally posted by: BillGates
NERDS

Hi pot! meet kettle!!



OP. Do you want a "new" sword or would you prefer an antique??

If you want antique, check here at gunbroker

 

[SandEagle]

i like the look of the sword on the cover of Zelda II nes game. I would pay top dollars if someone can replicate that for me. has to be realllllly sharp, carbon steel perhaps?

 

[joesmoke]

Originally posted by: adairusmc
You want the combat Wakizashi from this site -

http://www.americankami.com/sword.html

dude, totally this. its a little out of your range but daim... that thing is totally burglar/zombie/revolution ready

 

[Fayd]

Originally posted by: 0roo0roo

Originally posted by: Fayd

Originally posted by: hans030390

Katanas are better. That's all I've ever heard. Super strong, super sharp, lightweight, etc. For brute force, a European sword is definitely better (cause they're, well, bigger and heavier). But for precision and speed, the katana excels. From what I've heard, there was a Mythbusters episode that basically showed the katana dominating others swords (nothing cut another sword in half, but the katana did quite a bit of damage).

and yet you're too stupid to think about it logically?

they're not super strong. they're super WEAK. yes, they're inherently sharp, because they rely on slicing rather than cleaving. a european sword can afford to be a bit duller, because it's not relying on the draw stroke, but the chop.

in addition, you have to remember the armor at the time. weapons evolve with armor. european armor consisted generally of tightly woven steel rings that laid flat. they could easily resist a katana slash. hence the need for cleaving, and more importantly, piercing weapons. neither a katana nor a wakazashi are piercing weapons. wheras japanese armor was loosely woven rings overlaid with leather straps. any decent strike from the katana would go through.

wrong, the katana was inherently strong because it bonded a flexible metal body with a very hard edge. effectively two metals, one sword.

read the thread. no, the katana is weak compared to other swords.

 

[Crono]

Originally posted by: JJ650

Originally posted by: BillGates
NERDS

Hi pot! meet kettle!!



OP. Do you want a "new" sword or would you prefer an antique??

If you want antique, check here at gunbroker

Thanks for the link. I prefer new, but if an old sword is still in good condition and is durable/strong, sure.

 

[SSSnail]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RyO46RQhYkQ

 

[SSSnail]

Found a better vid, anyways, shut it.

 

[Fritzo]

Originally posted by: Unmoosical
Don't listen to these bozos. Buy from this guy.

Damn you, I read this whole thread to make sure nobody posted this before I did...then you come along.

 

[SSSnail]

Actually, I retract my earlier statements, you can get these http://www.chenessinc.com/9260.htm as they are excellent.