Anyone in Phoenix noticed more chem trails then usual?

[Oceandevi]

Originally posted by: Ocguy31

Originally posted by: ConstipatedVigilante

Originally posted by: nakedfrog
I was wondering if you meant "trials" or not...

Yeah, I was wondering wtf a "chem trail" was too. THEY'RE CON TRAILS, YOU CRACKPOTS!

Nope. Those disappear rather quickly, and dont spread out to form a blanket.


Does a real news source work?

That is a news story meant for normal people. They are mocking you foil hatters.

 

[Oceandevi]

Originally posted by: Born2bwire

Originally posted by: Loreena
Chemtrails have nothing on the woodpecker grid.

"The anomalous weather worldwide is not accidental. In superpotential theory, which was initiated by a paper by E.T. Whittaker in 1904, it is possible to produce EM force fields and force field energy at a distance. Whittaker 1904 showed that all EM fields and waves can be decomposed into two scalar potential functions. It follows that, by assembling two such scalar potential functions in beams, one can produce a "scalar potential interferometer" where the potential beams intersect at a distance. In that interference zone, ordinary transverse EM fields and energy appear.

A scalar potential is also just a harmonic assembly of bidirectional longitudinal EM wavepairs, as shown in a paper by E.T. Whittaker the year before, 1903. So one can produce the necessary longitudinal waves, in arrays, to "assemble" a scalar potential with any desired interior LW composition. Thus by using longitudinal EM waves (LWs), one can produce potentials, fields, and waves to order.

It turns out that a longitudinal EM wave, since it cannot vary transversely a priori, cannot vary its 3-spatial energy density. Instead, it must vary in the time domain. What results is that one has created an oscillation of the curvature of spacetime, when one makes a longitutinal EM wave. "

"There is one other characteristic that one needs to be aware of. Pure longitudinal EM waves have infinite speed and infinite velocity (see the summary papers by Rodrigues et al. on the Los Alamos National Laboratory website). In practice one makes a pseudo-longitudinal wave, so its energy is finite and its speed is finite, but it may have a velocity v>>c."

"Now we are ready to see into weather engineering. Focus the interference zone (IZ) on the other side of the earth (beam right through the earth and ocean) to a given desired area in the atmosphere."

I do computational electromagnetics and I don't even know where to begin with this stuff. Hell, ALL EM waves in freespace are transverse, it is impossible to make a longitudinal EM wave.

However, in a plasma or a confined space, there can exist waves which are either longitudinal or transverse, or a mixture of both.[2][3] In plasma waves, there exists some examples and these plasma waves can occur in the situation of force-free magnetic fields. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L...l_wave#Electromagnetic

Does the earth itself count as a confined space?

 

[KlokWyze]

It sucks there can never be a rational conversation about criticizing the government or the speculation they maybe, just maybe some corporations & military institutions MIGHT do illegal things. I mean, I know it's never happened in the past & all, but maybe we should be a little cautious instead of 100% trusting all the time. I don't know, that just seems like uh, rational?

 

[GodlessAstronomer]

Originally posted by: Oceandevi

Originally posted by: Born2bwire

Originally posted by: Loreena
Chemtrails have nothing on the woodpecker grid.

"The anomalous weather worldwide is not accidental. In superpotential theory, which was initiated by a paper by E.T. Whittaker in 1904, it is possible to produce EM force fields and force field energy at a distance. Whittaker 1904 showed that all EM fields and waves can be decomposed into two scalar potential functions. It follows that, by assembling two such scalar potential functions in beams, one can produce a "scalar potential interferometer" where the potential beams intersect at a distance. In that interference zone, ordinary transverse EM fields and energy appear.

A scalar potential is also just a harmonic assembly of bidirectional longitudinal EM wavepairs, as shown in a paper by E.T. Whittaker the year before, 1903. So one can produce the necessary longitudinal waves, in arrays, to "assemble" a scalar potential with any desired interior LW composition. Thus by using longitudinal EM waves (LWs), one can produce potentials, fields, and waves to order.

It turns out that a longitudinal EM wave, since it cannot vary transversely a priori, cannot vary its 3-spatial energy density. Instead, it must vary in the time domain. What results is that one has created an oscillation of the curvature of spacetime, when one makes a longitutinal EM wave. "

"There is one other characteristic that one needs to be aware of. Pure longitudinal EM waves have infinite speed and infinite velocity (see the summary papers by Rodrigues et al. on the Los Alamos National Laboratory website). In practice one makes a pseudo-longitudinal wave, so its energy is finite and its speed is finite, but it may have a velocity v>>c."

"Now we are ready to see into weather engineering. Focus the interference zone (IZ) on the other side of the earth (beam right through the earth and ocean) to a given desired area in the atmosphere."

I do computational electromagnetics and I don't even know where to begin with this stuff. Hell, ALL EM waves in freespace are transverse, it is impossible to make a longitudinal EM wave.

However, in a plasma or a confined space, there can exist waves which are either longitudinal or transverse, or a mixture of both.[2][3] In plasma waves, there exists some examples and these plasma waves can occur in the situation of force-free magnetic fields. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L...l_wave#Electromagnetic

Does the earth itself count as a confined space?

Plasma != free space

 

[Demon-Xanth]

Originally posted by: Born2bwire

Originally posted by: Demon-Xanth

Originally posted by: Turin39789

Originally posted by: Demon-Xanth

Originally posted by: Turin39789
Don't forget about the minumum wage earners who have to go outside in 2 degree weather in the winter to load up the planes with the chemicals. Those guys are always known for their discretion.

A US Air Force C-141 was scheduled to leave Thule Air Base, Greenland at midnight. During the pilot's preflight check, he discovered that the head's holding tank was still full from the last flight. So a message was sent to the base and an airman who was off duty was mustered out to take care of it.

The young man finally got to the air base and made his way to the aircraft, only to find that the pump truck for the head had been left outdoors and was frozen solid, so he had to find another one in one of the hangars ... which took even more time. He returned to the aircraft and was less than enthusiastic about what he had to do; nevertheless, he went about the pumping job deliberately and carefully so as not to risk criticism later.

As he was leaving the plane, the pilot stopped him and said: "Son, your attitude and performance has caused this flight to be late and I'm going to personally see to it that you are not just reprimanded but punished!"

Shivering in the cold, his task finished, he took a deep breath, stood up tall and said: "Sir, with all due respect, I'm not your son; I'm an Airman in the United States Air Force who's been in Thule, Greenland, for 11 months without any leave so that reindeers' asses are beginning to look pretty good to me. I have one stripe; it's two-thirty in the morning; the temperature is 40 degrees below zero; my job here is to pump human waste out of aircraft that I'll never be on... Now, just exactly what form of punishment did you have in mind?"

Did you ever get transferred to another base or are you still posting from Thule?

Still posting from Thule. I can overclock my Phemon 9600 to 4GHz with air cooling when the air is -30 or less.

So... what was the punishment you ended up getting?

I have to use an XGI Volari Duo V8 videocard.

 

[Born2bwire]

Originally posted by: Oceandevi

Originally posted by: Born2bwire

Originally posted by: Loreena
Chemtrails have nothing on the woodpecker grid.

"The anomalous weather worldwide is not accidental. In superpotential theory, which was initiated by a paper by E.T. Whittaker in 1904, it is possible to produce EM force fields and force field energy at a distance. Whittaker 1904 showed that all EM fields and waves can be decomposed into two scalar potential functions. It follows that, by assembling two such scalar potential functions in beams, one can produce a "scalar potential interferometer" where the potential beams intersect at a distance. In that interference zone, ordinary transverse EM fields and energy appear.

A scalar potential is also just a harmonic assembly of bidirectional longitudinal EM wavepairs, as shown in a paper by E.T. Whittaker the year before, 1903. So one can produce the necessary longitudinal waves, in arrays, to "assemble" a scalar potential with any desired interior LW composition. Thus by using longitudinal EM waves (LWs), one can produce potentials, fields, and waves to order.

It turns out that a longitudinal EM wave, since it cannot vary transversely a priori, cannot vary its 3-spatial energy density. Instead, it must vary in the time domain. What results is that one has created an oscillation of the curvature of spacetime, when one makes a longitutinal EM wave. "

"There is one other characteristic that one needs to be aware of. Pure longitudinal EM waves have infinite speed and infinite velocity (see the summary papers by Rodrigues et al. on the Los Alamos National Laboratory website). In practice one makes a pseudo-longitudinal wave, so its energy is finite and its speed is finite, but it may have a velocity v>>c."

"Now we are ready to see into weather engineering. Focus the interference zone (IZ) on the other side of the earth (beam right through the earth and ocean) to a given desired area in the atmosphere."

I do computational electromagnetics and I don't even know where to begin with this stuff. Hell, ALL EM waves in freespace are transverse, it is impossible to make a longitudinal EM wave.

However, in a plasma or a confined space, there can exist waves which are either longitudinal or transverse, or a mixture of both.[2][3] In plasma waves, there exists some examples and these plasma waves can occur in the situation of force-free magnetic fields. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L...l_wave#Electromagnetic

Does the earth itself count as a confined space?

Hence why I said free space. The longitudinal waves that occur outside a plasma are generally guided or standing modes that are made up of transverse waves but superposition into a longitudinal mode. If I place an antenna inside a resonant cavity, the antenna is still going to produce only transverse waves. However, due to the various reflections that arise in the cavity, a standing wave mode can arise that is longitudinal. The ionosphere is a plasma but the waves that propagate through it are more akin to acoustic waves (which are longitudinal) but this is due to the fact that the charged particles in the plasma are the waves. So it's a combination of both EM and physical compression and expansion waves. But the Earth is generally not a confined space, at least not in the sense that you need for a longitudinal wave. It can be thought of as a layered medium: Earth, air, plasma but the propagation of the EM waves is akin to free space. I have heard that the Zenneck surface wave is longitudinal and this is a common method of propagation for low frequency radio waves, but this is confined to the surface of the Earth and is evanescent off of it. Only at very low frequencies will the distance between the ground and the reflective atompsheric plasma be on the order of a wavelength such that you might see something like a longitudinal guided mode, but I have never heard of such a thing. Plus, we are exciting these signals on the ground and this gives rise the Zenneck wave which is what most people care about.

The only situation where you can get a guided mode (well, I don't think that it is probably a true guided mode, but it will reflect off of the ionosphere back towards the sea for the submarines to pick up) that I know of is with the ELF submarine radios that the US and Russia has (or had). These are like 80Hz waves but the antennas are something like 50 km in length. There is no way you can feasibly build an array of these to allow for a highly directed signal to do this so called weather control.

 

[JakwoW]

Originally posted by: KlokWyze
It sucks there can never be a rational conversation about criticizing the government or the speculation they maybe, just maybe some corporations & military institutions MIGHT do illegal things. I mean, I know it's never happened in the past & all, but maybe we should be a little cautious instead of 100% trusting all the time. I don't know, that just seems like uh, rational?

That's not the issue. The issue is whether the government is using "chemtrails" for mind/wx control. I agree that we shouldn't believe everything we are told, and I believe we have been lied to in the past. I also believe that certain things can be written off as retarded - such as exibit 'A'.

 

[SphinxnihpS]

Looks like I made it to the Stupid party late.

 

[darkswordsman17]

Originally posted by: KlokWyze
It sucks there can never be a rational conversation about criticizing the government or the speculation they maybe, just maybe some corporations & military institutions MIGHT do illegal things. I mean, I know it's never happened in the past & all, but maybe we should be a little cautious instead of 100% trusting all the time. I don't know, that just seems like uh, rational?

Now this is where conspiracy theorists really start to sound stupid. Just because people don't buy into ridiculous bullshit (especially when basic common sense, let alone factual science, disproves it) does not mean they don't criticize the government or discuss when they actually do fuck up. If anything, the people I know that are anti-bullshit theories are more critical of the government (partly because they are more informed and don't just believe every video on youtube made by some person in their basement).

Of course, since the conspiracy theorists get made fools of, their defense typically goes back to, well the government has lied to us in some other conspiracy, so why is it not possible they didn't here (and then they get called on those other ones and it ends up just being a big pile of stupid)? I never see people who refute conspiracy theories pretend that the government is righteous and infallible, yet somehow the other side keeps acting like they do.

 

[HeXploiT]

Have to say it. Pics or it didn't happen.
And I mean post your own pics.