Anyone in Phoenix noticed more chem trails then usual?

[So]

Originally posted by: Glavinsolo

Originally posted by: So

Originally posted by: Glavinsolo

Originally posted by: So

Originally posted by: Glavinsolo
Well since contrails are condensation trails. and Condensation should dissipate. Anyone have some "real" explanations of what this oozing in our sky really is?

Yeah! And someone explain these creepy "cloud" things. They're looking damn sinister....damn sinister...

Hell, those "clouds" have been documented all the way back to biblical times -- just more proof that the human race is controlled by a secret cabal of super advanced aliens!

Shrug,

no one watched the sprinkler rainbow video posted in this thread, now I'm a conspiracy theorist, when I was really just trying to make a joke

You've just got to play along and ham it up a little more each time.

Ok ok how about this one

The flu shot has chemicals that activate the chemicals already in you from all those years breathing in chemtrails and you will ignore the puppet strings of the elders of zion. Only thr few who have had chelation therapy are free of toxins and can see the truth.

You're so close to the real truth. I fixed it for you.

 

[hanoverphist]

Originally posted by: Glavinsolo
Well since contrails are condensation trails. and Condensation should dissipate. Anyone have some "real" explanations of what this oozing in our sky really is?

why dont clouds instantly disappear then? they are just big spots of condensation, arent they?

 

[Gibsons]

Originally posted by: Glavinsolo

Originally posted by: So

Originally posted by: Glavinsolo

Originally posted by: So

Originally posted by: Glavinsolo
Well since contrails are condensation trails. and Condensation should dissipate. Anyone have some "real" explanations of what this oozing in our sky really is?

Yeah! And someone explain these creepy "cloud" things. They're looking damn sinister....damn sinister...

Hell, those "clouds" have been documented all the way back to biblical times -- just more proof that the human race is controlled by a secret cabal of super advanced aliens!

Shrug,

no one watched the sprinkler rainbow video posted in this thread, now I'm a conspiracy theorist, when I was really just trying to make a joke

You've just got to play along and ham it up a little more each time.

Ok ok how about this one

The flu shot has chemicals that activate the chemicals already in you from all those years breathing in chemtrails and you will accept Obama as your personal lord and savior.

Not bad, but I think you need to work "toxins" in there somewhere.

 

[nerp]

Originally posted by: waggy
what i find amusing is that so many say any of the these theories are not true (for the record this one is.). What better way for the government to cover something up then have some nut say that its real. so many jump on these and discount them. what if one were true?

There used to be one that under a popular hotel was a bomb shelter for the government. turns out it was true.

For the record this one is true? What is your proof?

I'd really like to see how to get the country's airline pilots all to agree to not say anything about their secret spraying campaign. How many commercial airline pilots do YOU know? are you an airline pilot?

No wait, the CIA attaches the equipment and fills the tanks at the airport when nobody is looking.

Yeaaaah.

People said the moon landing was fabricated and people like you came out and made wide declarations as to how the whole thing is a hoax.

Riiiight. Tell that to the astronauts trying to drink their own urine on the ISS. Tell that to the designers of probes that have successfully photographed abandoned equipment still sitting on the moon today.

 

[Turin39789]

BWAHAHAHAA


Chemtrails!


BWAHAHAHA

 

[Turin39789]

Originally posted by: nerp

Originally posted by: waggy
what i find amusing is that so many say any of the these theories are not true (for the record this one is.). What better way for the government to cover something up then have some nut say that its real. so many jump on these and discount them. what if one were true?

There used to be one that under a popular hotel was a bomb shelter for the government. turns out it was true.

For the record this one is true? What is your proof?

I'd really like to see how to get the country's airline pilots all to agree to not say anything about their secret spraying campaign. How many commercial airline pilots do YOU know? are you an airline pilot?

No wait, the CIA attaches the equipment and fills the tanks at the airport when nobody is looking.

Yeaaaah.

People said the moon landing was fabricated and people like you came out and made wide declarations as to how the whole thing is a hoax.

Riiiight. Tell that to the astronauts trying to drink their own urine on the ISS. Tell that to the designers of probes that have successfully photographed abandoned equipment still sitting on the moon today.

Don't forget about the minumum wage earners who have to go outside in 2 degree weather in the winter to load up the planes with the chemicals. Those guys are always known for their discretion.

 

[So]

Originally posted by: nerp

Originally posted by: waggy
what i find amusing is that so many say any of the these theories are not true (for the record this one is.). What better way for the government to cover something up then have some nut say that its real. so many jump on these and discount them. what if one were true?

There used to be one that under a popular hotel was a bomb shelter for the government. turns out it was true.

For the record this one is true? What is your proof?

I'd really like to see how to get the country's airline pilots all to agree to not say anything about their secret spraying campaign. How many commercial airline pilots do YOU know? are you an airline pilot?

No wait, the CIA attaches the equipment and fills the tanks at the airport when nobody is looking.

Yeaaaah.

People said the moon landing was fabricated and people like you came out and made wide declarations as to how the whole thing is a hoax.

Riiiight. Tell that to the astronauts trying to drink their own urine on the ISS. Tell that to the designers of probes that have successfully photographed abandoned equipment still sitting on the moon today.

I think he was saying that this one is (not true).

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: nerp

Originally posted by: waggy
what i find amusing is that so many say any of the these theories are not true (for the record this one is.). What better way for the government to cover something up then have some nut say that its real. so many jump on these and discount them. what if one were true?

There used to be one that under a popular hotel was a bomb shelter for the government. turns out it was true.

For the record this one is true? What is your proof?

I'd really like to see how to get the country's airline pilots all to agree to not say anything about their secret spraying campaign. How many commercial airline pilots do YOU know? are you an airline pilot?

No wait, the CIA attaches the equipment and fills the tanks at the airport when nobody is looking.

Yeaaaah.

People said the moon landing was fabricated and people like you came out and made wide declarations as to how the whole thing is a hoax.

Riiiight. Tell that to the astronauts trying to drink their own urine on the ISS. Tell that to the designers of probes that have successfully photographed abandoned equipment still sitting on the moon today.

oop forgot NOT in my part lol.

so get back and relax. need something to help you relaxe? got some awesome goverment issued medication (don't worry its not the mind controlling ones...well maybe not).

 

[nerp]

Originally posted by: waggy

Originally posted by: nerp

Originally posted by: waggy
what i find amusing is that so many say any of the these theories are not true (for the record this one is.). What better way for the government to cover something up then have some nut say that its real. so many jump on these and discount them. what if one were true?

There used to be one that under a popular hotel was a bomb shelter for the government. turns out it was true.

For the record this one is true? What is your proof?

I'd really like to see how to get the country's airline pilots all to agree to not say anything about their secret spraying campaign. How many commercial airline pilots do YOU know? are you an airline pilot?

No wait, the CIA attaches the equipment and fills the tanks at the airport when nobody is looking.

Yeaaaah.

People said the moon landing was fabricated and people like you came out and made wide declarations as to how the whole thing is a hoax.

Riiiight. Tell that to the astronauts trying to drink their own urine on the ISS. Tell that to the designers of probes that have successfully photographed abandoned equipment still sitting on the moon today.

oop forgot NOT in my part lol.

so get back and relax. need something to help you relaxe? got some awesome goverment issued medication (don't worry its not the mind controlling ones...well maybe not).

Ohhh, sorry. hehe. Funny how a tiny little modifier can get a little purple nurple like me all worked up..

I do have my own special meds here. I have a bunch of work to get done before this afternoon, though, so it's going to have to wait a bit.

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: So

Originally posted by: waggy
what i find amusing is that so many say any of the these theories are not true (for the record this one is.). What better way for the government to cover something up then have some nut say that its real. so many jump on these and discount them. what if one were true?

There used to be one that under a popular hotel was a bomb shelter for the government. turns out it was true.

I don't think that was ever a secret, or that the possibility would me much disputed by skeptics.

There is a big difference between "there is a big (slightly but not top secret) bunker somewhere in the US"

and

"Tens of thousands of people are engaging in a conspiracy to do X and pull the wool over the eyes of the public"

well there was people looking into it. of course the goverment kept pushing it off and stalling. then it was just discounted as a crackpot theory.

then years later some idiot blew it and wasted all that money makeing it.

 

[Glavinsolo]

Ok, to be fair to the people who have been sitting on the sidelines of this thread who truly believe they are chemical trails and are too scared to reply.

If I were a true believer in this chem trail theory, I would bring together a group of like minded individuals and buy a plane. We would fly up and take samples of as many chemtrails as we can for a thorough analysis.


Oh and...

In Florida we have mosquito helicopters that spray pesticides at night when few people are out to kill the nasty buggers babies. This is true, my bro-in-law is a heli pilot.

 

[So]

Originally posted by: waggy

Originally posted by: So

Originally posted by: waggy
what i find amusing is that so many say any of the these theories are not true (for the record this one is.). What better way for the government to cover something up then have some nut say that its real. so many jump on these and discount them. what if one were true?

There used to be one that under a popular hotel was a bomb shelter for the government. turns out it was true.

I don't think that was ever a secret, or that the possibility would me much disputed by skeptics.

There is a big difference between "there is a big (slightly but not top secret) bunker somewhere in the US"

and

"Tens of thousands of people are engaging in a conspiracy to do X and pull the wool over the eyes of the public"

well there was people looking into it. of course the goverment kept pushing it off and stalling. then it was just discounted as a crackpot theory.

then years later some idiot blew it and wasted all that money makeing it.

Also, if something like that is true, what is the real consequence? "They wasted some taxpayer money" a whole league away from "pan-global mind control"

 

[Demon-Xanth]

Originally posted by: Turin39789
Don't forget about the minumum wage earners who have to go outside in 2 degree weather in the winter to load up the planes with the chemicals. Those guys are always known for their discretion.

A US Air Force C-141 was scheduled to leave Thule Air Base, Greenland at midnight. During the pilot's preflight check, he discovered that the head's holding tank was still full from the last flight. So a message was sent to the base and an airman who was off duty was mustered out to take care of it.

The young man finally got to the air base and made his way to the aircraft, only to find that the pump truck for the head had been left outdoors and was frozen solid, so he had to find another one in one of the hangars ... which took even more time. He returned to the aircraft and was less than enthusiastic about what he had to do; nevertheless, he went about the pumping job deliberately and carefully so as not to risk criticism later.

As he was leaving the plane, the pilot stopped him and said: "Son, your attitude and performance has caused this flight to be late and I'm going to personally see to it that you are not just reprimanded but punished!"

Shivering in the cold, his task finished, he took a deep breath, stood up tall and said: "Sir, with all due respect, I'm not your son; I'm an Airman in the United States Air Force who's been in Thule, Greenland, for 11 months without any leave so that reindeers' asses are beginning to look pretty good to me. I have one stripe; it's two-thirty in the morning; the temperature is 40 degrees below zero; my job here is to pump human waste out of aircraft that I'll never be on... Now, just exactly what form of punishment did you have in mind?"

 

[Turin39789]

Originally posted by: Demon-Xanth

Originally posted by: Turin39789
Don't forget about the minumum wage earners who have to go outside in 2 degree weather in the winter to load up the planes with the chemicals. Those guys are always known for their discretion.

A US Air Force C-141 was scheduled to leave Thule Air Base, Greenland at midnight. During the pilot's preflight check, he discovered that the head's holding tank was still full from the last flight. So a message was sent to the base and an airman who was off duty was mustered out to take care of it.

The young man finally got to the air base and made his way to the aircraft, only to find that the pump truck for the head had been left outdoors and was frozen solid, so he had to find another one in one of the hangars ... which took even more time. He returned to the aircraft and was less than enthusiastic about what he had to do; nevertheless, he went about the pumping job deliberately and carefully so as not to risk criticism later.

As he was leaving the plane, the pilot stopped him and said: "Son, your attitude and performance has caused this flight to be late and I'm going to personally see to it that you are not just reprimanded but punished!"

Shivering in the cold, his task finished, he took a deep breath, stood up tall and said: "Sir, with all due respect, I'm not your son; I'm an Airman in the United States Air Force who's been in Thule, Greenland, for 11 months without any leave so that reindeers' asses are beginning to look pretty good to me. I have one stripe; it's two-thirty in the morning; the temperature is 40 degrees below zero; my job here is to pump human waste out of aircraft that I'll never be on... Now, just exactly what form of punishment did you have in mind?"

Did you ever get transferred to another base or are you still posting from Thule?

 

[Fritzo]

At first, I was like "WTF?", but now I know what you're talking about.

Those aren't clouds!

 

[Evadman]

Bunch of idiots. You can refute this in a few minutes. Pull up some cloud cover imagery from September 10th 2001 and then the next few days when air traffic was shut down. It is insane the amount of cloud cover that is actually generated by flight.

 

[rudder]

Originally posted by: Glavinsolo
Ok, to be fair to the people who have been sitting on the sidelines of this thread who truly believe they are chemical trails and are too scared to reply.

If I were a true believer in this chem trail theory, I would bring together a group of like minded individuals and buy a plane. We would fly up and take samples of as many chemtrails as we can for a thorough analysis.


Oh and...

In Florida we have mosquito helicopters that spray pesticides at night when few people are out to kill the nasty buggers babies. This is true, my bro-in-law is a heli pilot.

You would think the government would use helicopters to drop mind altering substances rather than airliners. If those substances were dispersed at 40,000 feet... they would probably come down over the Atlantic Ocean or Europe.

Hmmm how well do you know your brother-in-law?

 

[Demon-Xanth]

Originally posted by: Turin39789

Originally posted by: Demon-Xanth

Originally posted by: Turin39789
Don't forget about the minumum wage earners who have to go outside in 2 degree weather in the winter to load up the planes with the chemicals. Those guys are always known for their discretion.

A US Air Force C-141 was scheduled to leave Thule Air Base, Greenland at midnight. During the pilot's preflight check, he discovered that the head's holding tank was still full from the last flight. So a message was sent to the base and an airman who was off duty was mustered out to take care of it.

The young man finally got to the air base and made his way to the aircraft, only to find that the pump truck for the head had been left outdoors and was frozen solid, so he had to find another one in one of the hangars ... which took even more time. He returned to the aircraft and was less than enthusiastic about what he had to do; nevertheless, he went about the pumping job deliberately and carefully so as not to risk criticism later.

As he was leaving the plane, the pilot stopped him and said: "Son, your attitude and performance has caused this flight to be late and I'm going to personally see to it that you are not just reprimanded but punished!"

Shivering in the cold, his task finished, he took a deep breath, stood up tall and said: "Sir, with all due respect, I'm not your son; I'm an Airman in the United States Air Force who's been in Thule, Greenland, for 11 months without any leave so that reindeers' asses are beginning to look pretty good to me. I have one stripe; it's two-thirty in the morning; the temperature is 40 degrees below zero; my job here is to pump human waste out of aircraft that I'll never be on... Now, just exactly what form of punishment did you have in mind?"

Did you ever get transferred to another base or are you still posting from Thule?

Still posting from Thule. I can overclock my Phemon 9600 to 4GHz with air cooling when the air is -30 or less.

 

[jemcam]

In Florida we have mosquito helicopters that spray pesticides at night when few people are out to kill the nasty buggers babies. This is true, my bro-in-law is a heli pilot.

That's not a conspiracy. It's called mosquito abatement dipshit. I lived in Florida for 30+ years and it was a common site to see a truck driving around spraying malathion into the air. After Hurricane Andrew hit, the trucks couldn't get around and the mosquitos became intolerable. They were beginning to get worred about an epidemic of something like Malaria so they started having 3 or 4 DC-3's flying in formation back and forth across Dade county and spraying in broad daylight. Well, I guess they had to do it in broad daylight because there was no power for the red lights on top of high buildings.

I guess the CIA knew that people needed their chemicals or there would be an uprising soon so they had to resort to doing it in broad daylight.

 

[Glavinsolo]

Originally posted by: jemcam

In Florida we have mosquito helicopters that spray pesticides at night when few people are out to kill the nasty buggers babies. This is true, my bro-in-law is a heli pilot.

That's not a conspiracy. It's called mosquito abatement dipshit. I lived in Florida for 30+ years and it was a common site to see a truck driving around spraying malathion into the air. After Hurricane Andrew hit, the trucks couldn't get around and the mosquitos became intolerable. They were beginning to get worred about an epidemic of something like Malaria so they started having 3 or 4 DC-3's flying in formation back and forth across Dade county and spraying in broad daylight. Well, I guess they had to do it in broad daylight because there was no power for the red lights on top of high buildings.

I guess the CIA knew that people needed their chemicals or there would be an uprising soon so they had to resort to doing it in broad daylight.

Holy crap never said its a conspiracy, I simply pointed out the fact that this is something we do in Florida

 

[ISAslot]

The Truth is Out There

 

[Loreena]

Chemtrails have nothing on the woodpecker grid.

 

[novasatori]

Originally posted by: queenrobot
Con trails, Chemtrails, whatever you want to call them Whatever they are or aren't, they have been appearing more and more over the past few weeks. That was the purpose of this thread.

My husband found this: ?

I am open to any logical explanation.

All I can say is LOFL.

 

[Born2bwire]

Originally posted by: Demon-Xanth

Originally posted by: Turin39789

Originally posted by: Demon-Xanth

Originally posted by: Turin39789
Don't forget about the minumum wage earners who have to go outside in 2 degree weather in the winter to load up the planes with the chemicals. Those guys are always known for their discretion.

A US Air Force C-141 was scheduled to leave Thule Air Base, Greenland at midnight. During the pilot's preflight check, he discovered that the head's holding tank was still full from the last flight. So a message was sent to the base and an airman who was off duty was mustered out to take care of it.

The young man finally got to the air base and made his way to the aircraft, only to find that the pump truck for the head had been left outdoors and was frozen solid, so he had to find another one in one of the hangars ... which took even more time. He returned to the aircraft and was less than enthusiastic about what he had to do; nevertheless, he went about the pumping job deliberately and carefully so as not to risk criticism later.

As he was leaving the plane, the pilot stopped him and said: "Son, your attitude and performance has caused this flight to be late and I'm going to personally see to it that you are not just reprimanded but punished!"

Shivering in the cold, his task finished, he took a deep breath, stood up tall and said: "Sir, with all due respect, I'm not your son; I'm an Airman in the United States Air Force who's been in Thule, Greenland, for 11 months without any leave so that reindeers' asses are beginning to look pretty good to me. I have one stripe; it's two-thirty in the morning; the temperature is 40 degrees below zero; my job here is to pump human waste out of aircraft that I'll never be on... Now, just exactly what form of punishment did you have in mind?"

Did you ever get transferred to another base or are you still posting from Thule?

Still posting from Thule. I can overclock my Phemon 9600 to 4GHz with air cooling when the air is -30 or less.

So... what was the punishment you ended up getting?

 

[Born2bwire]

Originally posted by: Loreena
Chemtrails have nothing on the woodpecker grid.

"The anomalous weather worldwide is not accidental. In superpotential theory, which was initiated by a paper by E.T. Whittaker in 1904, it is possible to produce EM force fields and force field energy at a distance. Whittaker 1904 showed that all EM fields and waves can be decomposed into two scalar potential functions. It follows that, by assembling two such scalar potential functions in beams, one can produce a "scalar potential interferometer" where the potential beams intersect at a distance. In that interference zone, ordinary transverse EM fields and energy appear.

A scalar potential is also just a harmonic assembly of bidirectional longitudinal EM wavepairs, as shown in a paper by E.T. Whittaker the year before, 1903. So one can produce the necessary longitudinal waves, in arrays, to "assemble" a scalar potential with any desired interior LW composition. Thus by using longitudinal EM waves (LWs), one can produce potentials, fields, and waves to order.

It turns out that a longitudinal EM wave, since it cannot vary transversely a priori, cannot vary its 3-spatial energy density. Instead, it must vary in the time domain. What results is that one has created an oscillation of the curvature of spacetime, when one makes a longitutinal EM wave. "

"There is one other characteristic that one needs to be aware of. Pure longitudinal EM waves have infinite speed and infinite velocity (see the summary papers by Rodrigues et al. on the Los Alamos National Laboratory website). In practice one makes a pseudo-longitudinal wave, so its energy is finite and its speed is finite, but it may have a velocity v>>c."

"Now we are ready to see into weather engineering. Focus the interference zone (IZ) on the other side of the earth (beam right through the earth and ocean) to a given desired area in the atmosphere."

I do computational electromagnetics and I don't even know where to begin with this stuff. Hell, ALL EM waves in freespace are transverse, it is impossible to make a longitudinal EM wave.