Anyone here drive an Acura or Honda?

[PhaZe]

Originally posted by: spacejamz
my last 3 cars have been Honda/Acuras

1999 Prelude
2000 Acura TL
2005 Acura TL

Haven't been disappointed yet...

The second generation of TL's (99-03) have had occasional transmission problems. A lot of people have had theirs replaced, acura even extended the warranty to 7 years or 100K miles on the transmissions. Have you had any problems with your 2000 TL? I found all of this out after I just bought a 2001 acura tl with 100k miles. ;(

 

[UTmtnbiker]

04 Acura TSX
About 22,000 miles in 18 months. So far so good.
I'm averaging about 28 to 29 MPG and fill'er up with Premium (car calls for it or believe me, I wouldn't do it) from Costco. Averaging around $25 to $30/tank.

 

[vtecluder]

Originally posted by: spacejamz
my last 3 cars have been Honda/Acuras

1999 Prelude
2000 Acura TL
2005 Acura TL

Haven't been disappointed yet...

Good to see someone had a Prelude :thumbsup:

I used to have 1990 Acura Integra
Now I have 1999 Honda Prelude
Performance is excellent
Premium
get about 20-25mpg (city + hwy)

 

[spacejamz]

Originally posted by: PhaZe

Originally posted by: spacejamz
my last 3 cars have been Honda/Acuras

1999 Prelude
2000 Acura TL
2005 Acura TL

Haven't been disappointed yet...

The second generation of TL's (99-03) have had occasional transmission problems. A lot of people have had theirs replaced, acura even extended the warranty to 7 years or 100K miles on the transmissions. Have you had any problems with your 2000 TL? I found all of this out after I just bought a 2001 acura tl with 100k miles. ;(

Never had any problems with my 2000..had 61,500 miles on it when i traded it in for the 05...the problem definitely was more than occassional, but I guess I was one of the lucky ones...it was great car for me...

My 00 TL

My 05 TL

 

[Doggiedog]

Originally posted by: vtecluder

Originally posted by: spacejamz
my last 3 cars have been Honda/Acuras

1999 Prelude
2000 Acura TL
2005 Acura TL

Haven't been disappointed yet...

Good to see someone had a Prelude :thumbsup:

I used to have 1990 Acura Integra
Now I have 1999 Honda Prelude
Performance is excellent
Premium
get about 20-25mpg (city + hwy)

I had a 97 Prelude SH myself. Loved the car but the mileage sucked at 25MPG at best.

 

[psteng19]

1996 Nissan Sentra, 140k miles, no problems, not even rattles. Clutch needs to be replaced soon, or at least cable adjusted.

Regular unleaded gets me 40-45 mpg, about 400-500 miles in a 13 gallon tank.

Performance is probably below average for its class but 2nd gear pulls pretty hard, even at low RPM's

 

[Gamingphreek]

2004 Honda Accord EX V6

Regular Unleaded: ~30mpg avg... Has some serious pickup.... very nice quiet interior with high quality stereo and speakers (stock)

I love it

-Kevin

 

[geno]

I have a '90 Integra LS, bought it with 136K on it last July, it now has 144K and it's needed nothing other than a CV (which it needed when I bought it). $75 later and it's a perfect running car, I get mid/high 20's for gas milage (even mix of hwy and city). It's a 5 spd, and with only 130HP it's by no means a speed demon, but it'll get out of it's own way if I need it to. It uses regular 87 Octane (cheap stuff, I love it)

 

[sygyzy]

What year and model do you have?
2005 Acura TSX

How would you describe the performance of your car?
It sure beats the heck out of my 2000 Celica, I'll tell you that. It passes and accelerates with ease. Braking is like butter. It's not the fastest but fast enough for me.

What type of gas do you put in your car?
I've always been an 89 guy but I have to put 91 in here.

What kind of mileage do you get?
Not that great. I am only on my second tank and I still have about 40% left. So far about 25MPG. I got 30 with the Celica.

 

[b0mbrman]

What year and model do you have?[/b]2000 S2000, 1993 Prelude. One of each. I have previously owned a 94 Integra, 95 Civic, and 2003 RSX if you have questions about those.

How would you describe the performance of your car?

The S2000 handles like a ridiculously fast go-kart and is a totally different driving experience than any car I've ever driven. The Prelude drives pretty generic, has a wide enough power band to drive in stop-and-go traffic, and doesn't handle as well as I'd like.

What type of gas do you put in your car?

Premium

What kind of mileage do you get?

20 for the S2000, 25 for the Prelude with an even mix of city/highway driving.

 

[jai6638]

Originally posted by: iversonyin
98 Accord EX

Its run fine, we have the 4 cyclinder, but its picks up OK.

87 Regular

20-25mpg City

 

[mitaiwan82]

Originally posted by: psteng19
1996 Nissan Sentra, 140k miles, no problems, not even rattles. Clutch needs to be replaced soon, or at least cable adjusted.

Regular unleaded gets me 40-45 mpg, about 400-500 miles in a 13 gallon tank.

Performance is probably below average for its class but 2nd gear pulls pretty hard, even at low RPM's

this thread is for anyone here drive an Acura or Honda or Nissan now?

I have a '99 Honda Accord EX V6 coupe...80K miles and still got a lot of life left.
Get about 20 mpg driving to and from work (~5 miles). Only use 87 for the car, because higher octane fuels actually decrese performance. Ride and handling are good, and the power delivery is good but doesn't get you into too much trouble. I do wish sometimes that there was less torque steer, but that's FWD for ya.

 

[Slvrtg277]

Originally posted by: mitaiwan82

Originally posted by: psteng19
1996 Nissan Sentra, 140k miles, no problems, not even rattles. Clutch needs to be replaced soon, or at least cable adjusted.

Regular unleaded gets me 40-45 mpg, about 400-500 miles in a 13 gallon tank.

Performance is probably below average for its class but 2nd gear pulls pretty hard, even at low RPM's

this thread is for anyone here drive an Acura or Honda or Nissan now?

I have a '99 Honda Accord EX V6 coupe...80K miles and still got a lot of life left.
Get about 20 mpg driving to and from work (~5 miles). Only use 87 for the car, because higher octane fuels actually decrese performance. Ride and handling are good, and the power delivery is good but doesn't get you into too much trouble. I do wish sometimes that there was less torque steer, but that's FWD for ya.

I can't get to the link from work about the DECREASE in performance because of higher octane fuel, but how in the world does a more violent, hotter explosion decrease performance?

 

[psteng19]

Originally posted by: mitaiwan82

Originally posted by: psteng19
1996 Nissan Sentra, 140k miles, no problems, not even rattles. Clutch needs to be replaced soon, or at least cable adjusted.

Regular unleaded gets me 40-45 mpg, about 400-500 miles in a 13 gallon tank.

Performance is probably below average for its class but 2nd gear pulls pretty hard, even at low RPM's

this thread is for anyone here drive an Acura or Honda or Nissan now?

I have a '99 Honda Accord EX V6 coupe...80K miles and still got a lot of life left.
Get about 20 mpg driving to and from work (~5 miles). Only use 87 for the car, because higher octane fuels actually decrese performance. Ride and handling are good, and the power delivery is good but doesn't get you into too much trouble. I do wish sometimes that there was less torque steer, but that's FWD for ya.

Oh sorry, I got lost and posted in the wrong thread.

And by the way, isn't having torque a pre-req for having torque steer?

 

[InterpolAgent]

96 acura integra w/ 225,000+ miles (you heard right)...and it's still running w/o any problems. not bad for a car that has very little care and was in a minor accident.

 

[mitaiwan82]

Originally posted by: Slvrtg277

Originally posted by: mitaiwan82

Originally posted by: psteng19
1996 Nissan Sentra, 140k miles, no problems, not even rattles. Clutch needs to be replaced soon, or at least cable adjusted.

Regular unleaded gets me 40-45 mpg, about 400-500 miles in a 13 gallon tank.

Performance is probably below average for its class but 2nd gear pulls pretty hard, even at low RPM's

this thread is for anyone here drive an Acura or Honda or Nissan now?

I have a '99 Honda Accord EX V6 coupe...80K miles and still got a lot of life left.
Get about 20 mpg driving to and from work (~5 miles). Only use 87 for the car, because higher octane fuels actually decrese performance. Ride and handling are good, and the power delivery is good but doesn't get you into too much trouble. I do wish sometimes that there was less torque steer, but that's FWD for ya.

I can't get to the link from work about the DECREASE in performance because of higher octane fuel, but how in the world does a more violent, hotter explosion decrease performance?

Pic (Source: Car & Driver November 2001)

From SteVTEC on v6p.net thread:

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What octane fuel should I be using in the J30A1?
================================================

A mini-primer on octane, ignition timing, and air-fuel ratio tuning.

The short answer: 87 octane and nothing more. Yes, even for best performance - just 87 octane. Higher octane fuel will actually give you LESS power on the J30A1.

The long answer:The octane requirements of an engine are directly related to the compression ratio of the engine and how it's tuned (primarily ignition timing and air-fuel ratios) from the factory. Combustion chamber design also has a play. It has nothing to do with the number of cylinders (i.e., the J30A1 doesn't need premium just because it has 6 cylinders vs a 4 cylinder.)

By today's standards, the J30A1 runs a relatively low 9.4:1 CR (compression ratio) which decreases its need for octane. 10.0:1 would be considered medium, and 10.5:1 or above would be pretty high for a production general consumer market engine. Typically a 10.0:1 CR is the crossover point on whether an engine will need higher octane fuel or not. A conservatively tuned engine with a 10.0:1 CR can do fine with 87 octane, but one with more advanced tuning will need premium. Due to the J30A1's low compression ratio and also its conservative state of tune (both ignition timing and air-fuel ratio), it performs the best on 87 octane fuel. Anything more will actually DEGRADE performance, not improve it. This was proven by a chassis dyno test on a J30A1 powered Accord by Car & Driver magainze in November 2001, and also proven at the track by previous G6 Accord V6 owners - they ran a few tenths slower due to premium fuel.

Although at the peak the engine only "lost" 4 whp on higher octane fuel, that is nothing compared to the vast amount of power lost in the lower rev range. Although torque was not plotted here, the difference equates to as much as 15 lb-ft of torque lost all throughout the low-end and mid-range which is very significant and would be noticeable on the "butt dyno".

Contrary to popular belief, higher octane fuel does not have more energy per gallon than lower octane fuel - it actually has LESS. Octane is a flame retardant that actually slows down and acts to prevent combustion from happening. Therefore, the more octane in your fuel, the more difficult it is to burn. In order to compensate for this slower and more difficult burn, ignition timing would need to be advanced such that combustion would start much sooner. By the time the piston reaches TDC (Top Dead Center) the combustion process needs to already be at or near its peak such that there is a maximum amount of force available to drive the piston downward with. This ignition timing is set and tuned specifically for 87 octane fuel in the J30A1. With higher octane fuel, combustion takes place more slowly. Since there is no built-in mechanism to properly advance the ignition timing for higher performance and higher octane fuels on the J30A1, this means that with the slower burning fuel there is now LESS power from combustion to force the piston downward with by the time it reaches TDC and this reduces torque output. In addition, any combustion that is still taking place at or beyond 20-25 degrees ATDC (After Top Dead Center) does not contribute significantly to the engine's torque output and is therefore wasted. With higher octane fuel and no timing advance, more of the combustion process is likely to take place at or beyond this range and therefore not contribute to the engine's power.

This is why properly tuned ignition timing is so critical in modern engines. To much timing advance and the knocking phenomenon can occur which can destroy an engine if severe enough (oversimplifying: knocking occurs due to too much compression/timing advance for a given octane level). Too little timing advance and you're not getting the most you can out of the engine and it's not running as efficiently as it could both in terms of torque production, fuel mileage, and even emissions. Since the J30A1 engine does not have a knock sensor that can tell the computer to retard the timing in the event that knocking occurs, this forces Honda to set the default ignition timing extremely conservatively and for the lowest common denominator octane level of 87. Therefore, if you are fueling your J30A1 with anything higher than 87 octane, you are purely wasting your money. As Car & Driver's test concluded, you pay more money for higher octane fuel, but get less power with the J30A1, and that has been backed up by track testing from members here. C&D's panel of experts did not know why exactly that was with the J30A1, but we know here at V6P.

 

[Freejack2]

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[imported_Lucifer]

I have a 1987 Honda Accord with 5 speed manual transmission, 4 cylinder. Runs wonderfully.

 

[thomsbrain]

91 Accord
regular gas (will run fine on cheap stuff)
25 MPG fast highway driving
171,500 miles (74,000 mine)
700 miles per week
performance = way better than a civic but don't race anyone for pink slips. it was fine for my old flat commute. now that i have to charge up a mountain every day, i wish i had a V6.

running perfectly except for a slow oil leak that's been there for a while and hasn't been getting worse. it doesn't leave oil on the ground or burn it from the tailpipe though. fastest thing on the road on my mountain highway commute despite the 4-banger, and has held up wonderfully to my daily thrashing.

 

[OS]

Originally posted by: psteng19
Oh sorry, I got lost and posted in the wrong thread.

And by the way, isn't having torque a pre-req for having torque steer?

You drive a 10 year old nissan econobox, you're one to talk about no torque.

 

[Doggiedog]

Originally posted by: mitaiwan82

Originally posted by: Slvrtg277

Originally posted by: mitaiwan82

Originally posted by: psteng19
1996 Nissan Sentra, 140k miles, no problems, not even rattles. Clutch needs to be replaced soon, or at least cable adjusted.

Regular unleaded gets me 40-45 mpg, about 400-500 miles in a 13 gallon tank.

Performance is probably below average for its class but 2nd gear pulls pretty hard, even at low RPM's

this thread is for anyone here drive an Acura or Honda or Nissan now?

I have a '99 Honda Accord EX V6 coupe...80K miles and still got a lot of life left.
Get about 20 mpg driving to and from work (~5 miles). Only use 87 for the car, because higher octane fuels actually decrese performance. Ride and handling are good, and the power delivery is good but doesn't get you into too much trouble. I do wish sometimes that there was less torque steer, but that's FWD for ya.

I can't get to the link from work about the DECREASE in performance because of higher octane fuel, but how in the world does a more violent, hotter explosion decrease performance?

Pic (Source: Car & Driver November 2001)

From SteVTEC on v6p.net thread:

================================================
What octane fuel should I be using in the J30A1?
================================================

A mini-primer on octane, ignition timing, and air-fuel ratio tuning.

The short answer: 87 octane and nothing more. Yes, even for best performance - just 87 octane. Higher octane fuel will actually give you LESS power on the J30A1.

The long answer:The octane requirements .........but we know here at V6P.

What is the J30A1? Are all Honda/Acura 3.5L engines J30A1?

 

[MercenaryForHire]

Originally posted by: Doggiedog
What is the J30A1? Are all Honda/Acura 3.5L engines J30A1?

No, none of the 3.5Ls are J30 series ... that's the displacement in bold.

- M4H

 

[OS]

Originally posted by: Doggiedog
What is the J30A1? Are all Honda/Acura 3.5L engines J30A1?

No, the J30A1 refers to 98-02 V6 accords

 

[Doggiedog]

Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire

Originally posted by: Doggiedog
What is the J30A1? Are all Honda/Acura 3.5L engines J30A1?

No, none of the 3.5Ls are J30 series ... that's the displacement in bold.

- M4H

Hmm. Maybe I have the C35X0 since its made in Canada

 

[MercenaryForHire]

What year and model do you have?
2004 Honda Civic SE Sedan

How would you describe the performance of your car?
Not fast by any stretch of the word. Handles nice though.

What type of gas do you put in your car?
Regular 87 octane.

What kind of mileage do you get?
Upper 30s city, upper 40 to lower 50's highway (I've got a heavy foot.)

- M4H