anyone else looking forward to the guaranteed plan to defeat ISIS?

purbeast0

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While I know this thread is poking fun, I did agree with what Trump said about announcing where all of the targets are so that they know to GTFO because they are being hunted.
 

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While I know this thread is poking fun, I did agree with what Trump said about announcing where all of the targets are so that they know to GTFO because they are being hunted.

I'm sure ISIS was really not going to notice at all the months long buildup to the assault on Mosul without a press conference to let them know.
 
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My thought is they should draft all the Social Justice Warriors and send them over to the Middle East. Problem solved.
 

K1052

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Regardless, he makes a good point.

No, it's not a good point. It's a stupid point. There are any number of reasons that an operation would be announced from reducing civilian casualties to other strategic/tactical considerations. This is not at all unusual.
 

purbeast0

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No, it's not a good point. It's a stupid point. There are any number of reasons that an operation would be announced from reducing civilian casualties to other strategic/tactical considerations. This is not at all unusual.
Yeah that plan of not announcing they were going to get Bin Laden sure worked out for them pretty well huh.

I'll agree to disagree.
 

K1052

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Yeah that plan of not announcing they were going to get Bin Laden sure worked out for them pretty well huh.

I'll agree to disagree.

I guess I missed the part of that where we were helping to reconquer Pakistan.

They are entirely different situations.
 

MajinCry

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Trump actually shared it a couple hours ago. It's rather brilliant, if I do say so myself.

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I've been told it will be the best plan ever. Even the generals will be surprised by it. The plan: nothing.

Seriously I'm okay with a plan like that. I'd be happy with it.
I honestly think that is his plan, let Russia figure it out and attract the nutty bombers.
 
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While I know this thread is poking fun, I did agree with what Trump said about announcing where all of the targets are so that they know to GTFO because they are being hunted.

I heard a retired Colonel say its useless to keep a big operation secret because Iraq is riddled with informants. He said its better to announce it to cause anxiety amongst ISIS and give civilians time to hunker down and not to let ISIS think they know something secret.

*not a quote but a good summary*
 
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It's for the generals to learn, the soldiers to perform, and you to find out after the fact.
With that in mind, you've got plenty of waiting ahead.

That's alright, I know good results regardless if I know the plan. I can't wait to be sick of winning.
 
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The US doesn't have a leg to stand on in Syria. Our allies are a bunch of throat-cutting wahhabi scum who are now painting the walls of the 1070 apartments in Aleppo. The legitimate government of Syria, headed by Dr. Bashar al-Assad, will take back Raqqa from ISIS (or the SDF if somehow they make it their first). US should STFU and stay out of the middle east, it is the only thing I agree with Trump (sort of, he says many things...).

Mosul will be liberated by the Iraqi army along with the PMUs backed by Iran. US will drop bombs on stuff and kill lots of people, but we really have almost no part in liberating anything in Syria or Iraq. US foreign policy has been a disgrace since WWII though, so not really a big change. Obama was rather restrained compared to some of the idiots who came before him.
 

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His plan is obvious and I think we can all agree a very great one to boot - this should work out very well in finishing 'ISIS' once and for all:

1. Believe there are WMDs in X country despite zero proof,
2. Kill innocent civilians of X country and American troops in the process,
3. End up not finding any WMDs,
4. Try very hard to conquer over the large amount of cognitive dissonance you're facing with some self serving bias,
5. Continue the search for supposed non-imaginary WMDs,
6. Increase civilian casualties and in the process also desensitise your American troops so they can justify rape, murder and humiliation of civilians,
7. Realise WMDs were a figment of your imagination and based on nil proof and the net effect of your stupidity was murder and rape,
8. Steal and pillage whatever resources you can,
9. Backpedal on WMDs and pretend this was all about "bringing freedom" and killing "terrorists,"
10. Be proud knowing your average American is too stupid and gullible to understand the difference between a civilian and a terrorist and they will find any means to suppress their own state of dissonance and justify murder (i.e., pretending the large amount of civilians killed, whether children, mothers, grandfathers, grandmothers, etc. were all blood thirsty terrorists out to kill the incredibly peaceful and intelligent 'Murican people). Disguise murder under American patriotism (let's not call it jingoism, because that word has some negative connotations attached to it) and pretend everything is O.K.
???.
Profit.

Just replace WMDs with something tangible and at least somewhat believable and there you go, Bush 2.0's plan to kill ISIS.
 
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FIVR

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Why is it whenever a truly evil organization appears on the planet, the US does nothing to stop it? Or offers half-measures and equivocations while pursing its own tangential interests?

ISIS: Completely evil, both parties agree it needs to be destroyed. What does the US gov do? It offers support to allies of ISIS, doesn't send troops to fight it, and it actively fights against about half of the troops who fight ISIS (Syrian Regime, Hezbollah).

Boko Haram: Completely evil, both parties agree. What does the US gov do? Nothing. Literally nothing.


North Korea: Evil, both parties agree. Controls vast store of weapons, regularly threatens allies and the US with use of those weapons. Poses obvious threat. What does the US gov do? Economic sanctions, which have zero effect because NK never traded with US or allies of the US. Pressure china. Offer excuses. More bluster and propaganda.



Compare this to what was done to Vietnam, Bosnia, Greneda, Cuba, Iraq, Syria, Libya, Iran, Venezuela, etc etc etc who disagreed with US policy but were clearly not evil (or at least, not everyone agreed they are evil).
 
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dank69

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See, now that Democrats are out of power, ISIL isn't our concern anymore. They only hide under our beds when Liberals have the helm. Unless there is billions of profit to be made for our contractor friends, of course.