Anyone else have a hatred of medicine?

[Matthiasa]

Those walk for a cure thing often have people paying x amount of money per set distance a certain person or group walks.

 

[MJinZ]

To put another way then....


If I can deal with the pain, what does it matter? Why would I take something that *could* have negative side effects, when the downside of not taking the medicine is having to deal with the pain. Something I'm obviously able to do, as I've done it (albeit, possibly foolish).


I'm not trying to disagree with you, just playing devils advocate in my own game here.

Medicine is not for your pain.

 

[MJinZ]

Bob, it is sad that so many people have a financial interest in the status quo. You and I will both die and see no new cures in our lifetime developed by the pharm industry at large.

If anything is developed it will purely coincidental and wholly accidental. Furthermore it will more than likely be devoloped by a non profit endeavor. And you cant bet the phrama industry will do anything both legal and otherwise to stop its spread if the financial impact is great enough.

Why does everyone always bitch about the capitalistic downsides of our industries and then praise Capitalism like it's the coming of Jesus?

Really? We are capitalist. Fuck everything except $ $. Get over it, or find a better way. Wait, no... must bow down to the Gods known as Capitalism.

 

[Colt45]

The stronger the painkiller the better... why suffer?

 

[BoomerD]

It's great to see that I'm not the only tin-foil wearing member who has a strong distrust of the "big pharmaceutical" industry. :biggrin:

For me, "HATRED of medicine" is a bit strong, but I don't like taking any kind of medication.
That doesn't mean I refuse to take what I NEED, just that I dislike taking them.

I take a blood pressure pill every day...that I NEED.

I take Excedrin on the average, 4-5 days per week for extreme headaches that are the result of a severe neck compression and whiplash. That I NEED. (but it concerns me taking so dammed much on a regular basis)

About 4 times per year, I get corticosteroid epidural injections in/around my lumbar spine. Those I believe I NEED as pain management for the herniated disks. (it also concerns me to have so much cortisone every year)

My pain management doc is always trying to get me to take prescription pain meds. In the past 6 years, he's offered me vicodan in several formulations, percodan/percocet, oxycontin, (time release percodan) and fentanyl. If I were willing to live on those, it's possible that I'd have less pain on a daily basis, but from my experience, I'd more-or-less be a zombie from all the opiates.
I can tolerate the pain better than I can tolerate being a zoned out junkie.

Pain just reminds you that you're still alive.

 

[MagnusTheBrewer]

Better living through chemicals ftw! I would be unable to work and either catatonic or serving life for multiple murders without drugs. I don't like having to use them but, there is no choice if I want to be even semi functional.

 

[Born2bwire]

If I have a headache, I take aspirin. Muscle pain, ibuprofin. Allergies, zyrtec or something of the ilk. Cold, cold medicine. Medicine FTW.

 

[eits]

op, go see a respected chiropractor in your city/area.

don't hate on medicine... it definitely has its time and place and without it, lives would be lost at a higher rate (yes, that is implying that medicine does kill people at a high rate, too). if someone has cancer or an infection or something, the last thing they need is a chiropractic adjustment or acupuncture to get rid of it.

chiropractors eat headaches for breakfast. we see why you're getting them in the first place and try to correct the problem and maintain the correction to keep you from having them. there's no reason you should be taking that many ulcer-causing pills in order to mask the cause of a headache. once every couple months? sure. but not like how you described in your op.

 

[eits]

edit: misunderstood the post someone made... retracting my bash.

 

[eits]

The stronger the painkiller the better... why suffer?

because pain is your body's way of telling you that there's something wrong and it needs to be fixed...

symptoms are always the last thing to show up and the first things to leave when they're treated. for example, an infection... whenever you have an infection and take antibiotics, you feel all better after a couple days of taking the meds... but does that mean you're all better? no... you have to take the medicine until it's all gone in order to make sure the infection's all gone. the infection is still there after a couple days even though you feel 100% better... because symptoms are always the last thing to show up when there's a problem and the first thing to leave when it's being treated.

when you're 65 and waking up every night with back pain and having to take a piss, are you gonna say "i just need a painkiller for that" and die of prostate cancer? why suffer, right?

 

[Colt45]

Don't put words in my mouth. I didn't say when you get an infected appendage, just take painkillers until you get gangrene and it falls off, did I?

But you might as well take painkillers with the antibiotics, instead of suffering...

 

[CRXican]

I prefer not to take it.

After I broke my arm I got Vicodin and refused to take it. I took some really strong Ibuprofen instead.

 

[bob4432]

Bob, it is sad that so many people have a financial interest in the status quo. You and I will both die and see no new cures in our lifetime developed by the pharm industry at large.

If anything is developed it will purely coincidental and wholly accidental. Furthermore it will more than likely be devoloped by a non profit endeavor. And you cant bet the phrama industry will do anything both legal and otherwise to stop its spread if the financial impact is great enough.

yep, if any doctor, or group, on their own comes w/ something, they will be discredited and a couple will have tragic accidents before the others change their mind about pushing their reality. sad times for the chronically ill...cures don't pay for country club/golf club fees or private jets....

 

[eits]

Don't put words in my mouth. I didn't say when you get an infected appendage, just take painkillers until you get gangrene and it falls off, did I?

But you might as well take painkillers with the antibiotics, instead of suffering...

don't mind the degeneration in your neck because of improper motion... just take painkillers.

 

[bob4432]

I prefer not to take it.

After I broke my arm I got Vicodin and refused to take it. I took some really strong Ibuprofen instead.

here is the tradeoff - lots of ibuprofen will cause ulcers - you would probably need less of the vicodin (narc) w/ its tylenol and do less damage to your liver/kidneys than the ibuprofen to your stomach - sometimes it is a tradeoff if you are going to take any at all. that is, unless you have addict qualities, in that case you made the correct decision.

 

[Colt45]

don't mind the degeneration in your neck because of improper motion... just take painkillers.

Christ man, I didn't say everyone should be on a morphine drip from the cradle to the grave.

There are plenty of short term (and some long term) problems where the only difference between taking painkillers or not, is suffering.

Although I suppose if everyone that slept funny and had a stiff neck once in a while skipped the ibu and came in to see you, it would be a good thing, huh?

 

[FelixDeCat]

yep, if any doctor, or group, on their own comes w/ something, they will be discredited and a couple will have tragic accidents before the others change their mind about pushing their reality. sad times for the chronically ill...cures don't pay for country club/golf club fees or private jets....

While I was not suggesting that people would be killed to stop cures, certainly a payoff or a company buyout would be just as effective. Once the pharma companies own a cure, they can sit on it forever.

 

[Colt45]

I prefer not to take it.

After I broke my arm I got Vicodin and refused to take it. I took some really strong Ibuprofen instead.

Yeah, who needs opiates. Let's just give people in severe pain a whole bottle of ibuprofen or tylenol. That'll fix em for life. :awe:

 

[RESmonkey]

I only take it if I really need it, or if it's a headache. Body pain, I can take, except for headaches.

My doc gave me a shit ton of stuff (antihistamines, cough syrup, etc.) for my infection. The only thing I'm taking that was prescribed was the real stuff (antibiotics).

 

[bob4432]

While I was not suggesting that people would be killed to stop cures, certainly a payoff or a company buyout would be just as effective. Once the pharma companies own a cure, they can sit on it forever.

maybe it is just me but w/ the internet, i feel big pharmacy would need to be drastic if cures were found and some deterrence needed to be explained or a few example needed to be shown. again, that is just me but if somebody found some mixture of certain items in a rain forest enviornment that could cure cancer or certain types of cancer, i would really not expect them to be taken seriously or if they were and people started to get healed, expect them to be vertical for much longer - just too much $$ to be lost. i have no idea, but i would assume that certain cancers are worth multi hundreds of million dollar a year cash cows....or maybe that is why i have told i wear the tinfoil to tight

as to your buyout option and the pharm industry/company sitting on it, i really wonder how many they are actually sitting on as i am sure some stuff has been cured since polio..

 

[Taejin]

someone in this thread is ignorant! wooooo

 

[coloumb]

I'll try to avoid consuming drugs - especially cold medicines as they completely screw up my bodily functions for a few days after I've stopped taking them. If I do take cold medz - I'll take half the recommended dose, consume ricola drops, and sleep as much as possible.

I do find that Excedrin Tension Headache is awesome for curing a headache or Excedrin Back and Body medicine if my back/body is in [annoying] pain [annoying = waking up with a back ache, or just normal wear/tear throughout the day, etc].

 

[sandorski]

I avoid Drugs too, but if you're having trouble concentrating due to pain, take the Ibuprofen. Sounds like you're at no risk of developing Immunity or causing side effects if you generally avoid them.

 

[JEDIYoda]

perhaps your an idiot...

 

[Mo0o]

I never understood this "all natural" concept. If it wasnt for modern medicine and germ theory you'd probably be dead before 50, maybe your wife at childbirth and probably a child or two along the way. Modern mild pain killers, when taken in moderation, offer virtually no side effects. Sitting around gritting through the pain for no reason is just illogical