Anyone else have a hatred of medicine?

[zanejohnson]

depends on what kind of meds...

ibuprofen and tylenol i absolutely hate... it doesn't do anything at all for me..

for pain hydrocodone or oxycodone works wonders... for anxiety i could see how xanax or valium would work wonders... although i've never had anxiety issues... that stuff sure does mellow me out though...

for colds and stuff ephedrine/psuedophedrine dries you out for sure...

 

[feralkid]

Pain just reminds you that you're still alive.

In case you've forgotten?

 

[JulesMaximus]

I'm sitting here in bed with a throbbing headache watching the olympics. I can hardly enjoy it though. My wife keeps telling me to take some ibuprofen, but I refuse. She should know better. I always refuse. I absolutely despise medicine. But why?

The easier answer is I could say people take it to often. Build up immunity to it, so when they really need it the effectiveness is worn down. But that's just logical reasoning. There must be something deeper. Why have I always despised taking medicine?

Surely some of you are like me in this regard. Any reasons why?

If you have a headache then take some medicine. What's the big deal?

I don't medicate myself beyond a mild pain reliever like Tylenol every once in a great while unless I'm really sick and need something like antibiotics. I don't take sleeping pills or any of the other many many drugs people consume on a daily basis but I have no problem popping a couple aspirin if I have a throbbing headache either.

I really don't understand why you are so adverse to taking something as mild as an over the counter pain reliever.

 

[JulesMaximus]

depends on what kind of meds...

ibuprofen and tylenol i absolutely hate... it doesn't do anything at all for me..

for pain hydrocodone or oxycodone works wonders... for anxiety i could see how xanax or valium would work wonders... although i've never had anxiety issues... that stuff sure does mellow me out though...

for colds and stuff ephedrine/psuedophedrine dries you out for sure...

Well, you're a hardcore drug user so I wouldn't really take anything you have to say on this subject and try to apply it to the average person.

I took a valium once when I was in high school, got it out of a friend's Mom's medicine cabinet, and I was so fucking high and numb that I could have been hit by a bus and not felt a thing. Never again.

I've never taken any of the other drugs you listed other than OTC cold medicines when I have a nasty cold.

 

[mav451]

I agree with Advil not doing much in terms of anti-inflammatory. I seem to respond better to naproxen (Aleve) or celecoxib (Celebrex) than ibuprofen - which kind sucks, since both are worse on the stomach than Advil. Anyway, the doc usually enforces the 10 day rule pretty strongly for either of those and I listen.

I'm currently taking Meloxicam (Mobic) for my rotator cuff tendonitis. And again, I found prescription drugs to work better. It's also not as bad as Aleve on the stomach so that's good.

 

[Murloc]

if the headache is so strong you should take it.
It's wrong to take a pill everytime you have a small ache, but medicine in general is okay.
Maybe it's because for some reason you think that you don't need them.
Some extremist ppl often doesn't take any medicines, but sometimes it could really help them.

 

[yhelothar]

I have to agree that they're mostly jokes, but the second half makes me I despise them because most of their advertising is sappy nonsense, as opposed to "look at all the benefits of what we propose." Also, all these "walk for the cure" things are retarded. Walking never cured anything other than obesity, yet all these people get sooooo excited because they're doing sooooo much good by walking.

The point of walk for a cure is for sponsorships. You are walking around with company logos plastered over yourself that makes the company look good, and in turn, the company will donate money for the cause.

 

[moshquerade]

I don't have a hatred for it, but I use medicine with discretion. I'm one of those people who can take one pill and get the same relief where most people have to take two.
Also, if there's a side effect to medication I seem to get it.

That said, I don't take anything, except an Exedrin here and there if I have a bad headache, which is not very often. I think the OP is silly to suffer with a headache like that when a little aspirin probably would take care of it.

 

[moshquerade]

I'm sitting here in bed with a throbbing headache watching the olympics. I can hardly enjoy it though. My wife keeps telling me to take some ibuprofen, but I refuse. She should know better. I always refuse. I absolutely despise medicine. But why?

The easier answer is I could say people take it to often. Build up immunity to it, so when they really need it the effectiveness is worn down. But that's just logical reasoning. There must be something deeper. Why have I always despised taking medicine?

Surely some of you are like me in this regard. Any reasons why?

Do you get headaches often when you watch TV? Do you wear glasses/contacts?

 

[CRXican]

here is the tradeoff - lots of ibuprofen will cause ulcers - you would probably need less of the vicodin (narc) w/ its tylenol and do less damage to your liver/kidneys than the ibuprofen to your stomach - sometimes it is a tradeoff if you are going to take any at all. that is, unless you have addict qualities, in that case you made the correct decision.

Yeah, who needs opiates. Let's just give people in severe pain a whole bottle of ibuprofen or tylenol. That'll fix em for life. :awe:

It wasn't severe pain. Then again it was likely the type of pain people would happily pop Vicodin for. I preferred to be stubborn and tough. I took maybe two IBs a day.

My friend on the other hand recently broke his femur. He took both oxy and percocet. No thanks.

 

[Capt Caveman]

A whole lot of people in this thread are ignorant! wooooo

Fixed

 

[MJinZ]

It wasn't severe pain. Then again it was likely the type of pain people would happily pop Vicodin for. I preferred to be stubborn and tough. I took maybe two IBs a day.

My friend on the other hand recently broke his femur. He took both oxy and percocet. No thanks.

So many things wrong here, it is just sad.

 

[eits]

Christ man, I didn't say everyone should be on a morphine drip from the cradle to the grave.

There are plenty of short term (and some long term) problems where the only difference between taking painkillers or not, is suffering.

Although I suppose if everyone that slept funny and had a stiff neck once in a while skipped the ibu and came in to see you, it would be a good thing, huh?

absolutely. not just for me, though... for them, too. they wouldn't have to take the iburprofen because i'd treat the problem causing the pain and i would restore motion at an intersegmental level back into their vertebral column which slows down degeneration. pain meds do nothing to slow degeneration... they just mask the problem so your brain doesn't perceive the pain.

just to clarify, i completely understand that there are some cases where patients have severe pain and chiropractic care or whatever just isn't enough. in those cases, you just gotta cut your losses and realize that fixing the problem just can't be done, so they'll be life-long pain management patients.

 

[lxskllr]

I've always been against legal drugs. I'll take antibiotics when necessary, but that's about it.

 

[DrPizza]

I've been averaging a headache about 4 days a week, all from my neck. I think I'm going to give in & make an appointment with my chiropractor. Very inconvenient to go to him - 20 miles away. But last time I had chronic headaches, a couple visits took care of the problem for years.

 

[BudAshes]

THC is the only drug you need.

 

[MJinZ]

I've always been against legal drugs. I'll take antibiotics when necessary, but that's about it.

Saviors of the American Healthcare System unite

Heheh.

 

[bobsmith1492]

Typically all I take is aspirin, and that only for anti-inflammation when I run or cycle too much. I'd use ibuprofen but I'm allergic.

That said, there are many extremely valid uses of modern medicine that you can't lump together like this thread is doing.

1. Antibiotics
People used to die regularly from all kinds of infections that are easily curable now.

2. Vaccines
Millions used to die of diseases that have been all but eradicated.

3. Cancer
Many forms can be successfully treated. My grandpa for example survived 4 different cancers and was in great health until a year or so before he died at 93.

 

[Ruptga]

Those walk for a cure thing often have people paying x amount of money per set distance a certain person or group walks.

The point of walk for a cure is for sponsorships. You are walking around with company logos plastered over yourself that makes the company look good, and in turn, the company will donate money for the cause.

Yes, but there's nothing intrinsic to walking that does any good, yet people get so excited about it you'd think they'd found the cure in their basement.

 

[Mo0o]

Yes, but there's nothing intrinsic to walking that does any good, yet people get so excited about it you'd think they'd found the cure in their basement.

Who cares. They're raising money for charity, why shouldnt they get excited about it? They're certainly doing more for medical research than you

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Why does everyone always bitch about the capitalistic downsides of our industries and then praise Capitalism like it's the coming of Jesus?

Really? We are capitalist. Fuck everything except $ $. Get over it, or find a better way. Wait, no... must bow down to the Gods known as Capitalism.

My guess is that you haven't a basic understanding of how things work so I'll explain this for you.

First, the problem isn't capitalism or drug companies not developing a cure, it's that no cure exists.

Rocket science? Quantum mechanics? Tinkertoy science compared to the complexity of living organisms. I'd venture to say that our understanding of biology is comparable to 19th century chemistry and physics. Why didn't Faraday or Gibbs build a rocket to go to the Moon? Because they couldn't.

Likewise we have treatments for many diseases which were fatal less than a century ago, but who's precise mechanisms aren't even understood. Just why do people get MS? Why do some people develop type II diabetes and other's don't? Don't fall back on the "they eat too much" trap. People may have virtually identical livestyles, and one get's a disease and another doesn't

Why is asthma and autism on the rise? It's isn't preservatives in injections. Just what causes it?

When the complex interplay of genetics, epigenetics, medication, and other considerations aren't even known, how does one "cure" a thing?

We aren't cars to throw on a lift. We are the most complex thing known in the universe, and we've just begun to understand the most basic things.

Hell we don't even know why we age and die. We have some idea with telomeres and intracellular oxidation, but the actual why of things? We're not even close.

Basic research is being done at academic institutions all over the world. The amount of data produced is staggering. That doesn't mean we can cure things yet. Some hope yet, but it's not going to be in my lifetime that the mysteries of life will be solved. Probably not in yours either.

 

[JEDIYoda]

I never understood this "all natural" concept. If it wasnt for modern medicine and germ theory you'd probably be dead before 50, maybe your wife at childbirth and probably a child or two along the way. Modern mild pain killers, when taken in moderation, offer virtually no side effects. Sitting around gritting through the pain for no reason is just illogical

There have been placebo studies done on most "natural" medicines and they do not work!!
You will argue that lemon and tea are good for cold as well as sounps...truth that be....but thats more common sense than anything else.

 

[Mo0o]

There have been placebo studies done on most "natural" medicines and they do not work!!
You will argue that lemon and tea are good for cold as well as sounps...truth that be....but thats more common sense than anything else.

There are some "natural medicines" taht do work, even though they're just really really impure forms of modern pharmaceuticals.

 

[Bignate603]

Of course I hate "big medicine" aka the phramaceutical industry. Why? Because their main point of existance is not to develop cures but treatments. You can be sold a lifetime of treatments but only be cured once. There is no profits in cures, thus no motive to find any.

Only if there's one company. Sure, one may be interested in finding a 'treatment' that works well and they can charge you forever, but then the next company comes along with a cure and makes all treatments useless.

Medical companies are all shooting for the best medicine that they can, cures where possible and treatments where it's not simply because if they got halfway someone else will come in, make something better, and make their product useless.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Only if there's one company. Sure, one may be interested in finding a 'treatment' that works well and they can charge you forever, but then the next company comes along with a cure and makes all treatments useless.

Medical companies are all shooting for the best medicine that they can, cures where possible and treatments where it's not simply because if they got halfway someone else will come in, make something better, and make their product useless.

So, why hasn't the NIH and academic institutions found these "cures"?

How was Faraday supposed to get that rocket to the moon again?