Hulk
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Just checked in at MC on the 285K. It's not listed on the site anymore. Ominous.
But Raptor lase is the one that blows itself up ! Unless you set it below 5 ghz, then Zen wins.
Huh, I didn't realise it was processor related. I must try this on my 7800X3D because I've been running the memory at the system default speed because EXPO / DDR5-6000 caused the POST time to increase by about 30 seconds.
(I've had this post as a draft for a while) I've just enabled it on my setup and the good news is that it didn't insta-crash like it did when I only enabled MCR. POST times look pretty quick too, I haven't counted the seconds but it wasn't far off what I would call a normal POST time.
Thanks in advance!
Which RAM?My 265K is back, I finally complete my new pc within 2 weeks.
I have just built myself a new system with a Ryzen 9 9900x.
I have also just delivered a really nice Intel 265k system I built with all the bells and whistles including fast memory and a Crucial T705.
I would advise most people to go Intel...I know it is a complex argument but Intel processors are built on 3nm rather than 4nm and with the efficiency cores they are just so nice and cool and quiet in most use cases.
If you want a balls out gaming computer...and that is the number one priority then sure go AMD and get the latest 3XD processor.
I just think Intel still holds most of the card here in terms of overall efficiency and even performance in most areas. The motherboards are also fully Thunderbolt certified and will run CUDIMM which will become increasingly a positive.
Intel cater for everyone, the average user, the business user, the creative user and even the gamer.
I found overall the performance of a 265K is better as I ran some benchmarks by about 15% over the Ryzen 9 9900x. The thing I liked most though was seeing the power consumption drop to under 10W in idle compared to 37W for the Ryzen.
If I had the choice again, I would go Intel for sure.
I guess if you have a 5lb graphics card worth more than the rest of your system then you will go AMD.
If you look at benchmarks, the 265 wins very few compared to a 9950x. as hitman saidI have just built myself a new system with a Ryzen 9 9900x.
I have also just delivered a really nice Intel 265k system I built with all the bells and whistles including fast memory and a Crucial T705.
I would advise most people to go Intel...I know it is a complex argument but Intel processors are built on 3nm rather than 4nm and with the efficiency cores they are just so nice and cool and quiet in most use cases.
If you want a balls out gaming computer...and that is the number one priority then sure go AMD and get the latest 3XD processor.
I just think Intel still holds most of the card here in terms of overall efficiency and even performance in most areas. The motherboards are also fully Thunderbolt certified and will run CUDIMM which will become increasingly a positive.
Intel cater for everyone, the average user, the business user, the creative user and even the gamer.
I found overall the performance of a 265K is better as I ran some benchmarks by about 15% over the Ryzen 9 9900x. The thing I liked most though was seeing the power consumption drop to under 10W in idle compared to 37W for the Ryzen.
If I had the choice again, I would go Intel for sure.
I guess if you have a 5lb graphics card worth more than the rest of your system then you will go AMD.
That's a bogus comparison. It's even cheaper than the 9900x.If you look at benchmarks, the 265 wins very few compared to a 9950x.
Yes, I should have used like the 7700x or the 9700x. See the review I linked.That's a bogus comparison. It's even cheaper than the 9900x.
I want to know his findings after inspecting her gadget!I'm sorry, but this just comes off as a very ahh, I'll say influenced post.
Would love to know how AMD doesn't cater to everyoneIntel cater for everyone, the average user, the business user, the creative user and even the gamer.
Would love to know how AMD doesn't cater to everyone![]()
No sale, but thanks for playing.Intel cater for everyone, the average user, the business user, the creative user and even the gamer.
I've been doing this job a long time. If I had to wager, it'd be on - yet another drive-by 💩 post. The clever username, the hyperbolic language, the info I can see about the account on my side, and the 11 minutes from joining to logging out, then the weekend passing without return.Folks, no human being interested in computers writes something like this "motherboards are also fully Thunderbolt certified". This is a marketing template, AI bot, or both.
What is the point in making such a post? Why make the effort?I've been doing this job a long time. If I had to wager, it'd be on - yet another drive-by 💩 post. The clever username, the hyperbolic language, the info I can see about the account on my side, and the 11 minutes from joining to logging out, then the weekend passing without return.
I think the sales pitch including TB certification is because they are grasping at arrow shaped straws.
First: Transparency. All of you regulars deserve to know why a first post like that is, or is not, wished away to the cornfield. Spambot post go straight to the cornfield.What is the point in making such a post? Why make the effort?
I read that too. Considering the owner is the one that posted failure rates on raptor, that did not match any of the other S.I.s reporting. And was offering a shorter warranty than most, I think it's interesting indeed. I'd like to know if it's clients demanding AMD. Swapping out failed raptor for AMD. His company pushing AMD because raptor bit him right in the a$$. All of the above.Saw an article by Tom's Hardware that even Puget Systems is selling mostly AMD now and they have been mostly Intel for quite some time.
It's not Pat's it's Swan's the entire MTL/ARL is Swan's Planning lmao he can't magically change timelines no one can You can sae PTL an 💩 on it all day if it isn't goodI blame their management trying to mimic AMD's chiplet approach. They were in no position to "experiment" and even then, they should've limited it to mobile chips. If ARL had been a monolithic architecture, it could've been an easy win with TSMC N3B. Why is it that average people on these forums were able to predict well in advance that there would be serious tile latencies involved in ARL and yet no one at Intel took that seriously? It's like they don't care about their bread and butter business. Maybe there are still stalwarts in their midst who remember that something as awful as Pentium 4 didn't destroy Intel so ARL wasn't gonna either. These narrow minded fools destroyed Intel's mindshare. The only remaining hope is Bartlett Lake (if it doesn't melt at 6 GHz) and a slim hope that they will miraculously fix any serious issues they overlooked in Pat's maniacal quest to ship before end of 2024 and surpass 6 GHz RPL gaming performance with just 5.7 GHz of Lion Cove sauce.
IF Bartlett Lake is released, I will become genuinely hopeful that we will see a P-core only monolithic Lion Cove refresh before end of 2025 or early 2026. That would be a sane strategy to ensure they don't rush Nova Lake and release it as its best possible version without major snags.
Apparently it cost 2-3X vs RPL to make and they don't wanna pay TSMC for that they don't like outsourcing to TSMC at allThis is a good point regarding 285K volume. It has been OOS at MC literally since the day it was released. Why? TMSC yield issues? Package integration issues? It's a nice little mystery. If it was on an Intel process we'd know immediately yield/binning is the issue. But with TMSC we're used to good yields. But still no parts?
So many things "not quite right" with Intel these days. I'm worried for them. Only thing that has gone reasonable okay lately is Lunar Lake and Battlemage. But Lunar Lake isn't available in a lot of systems and the 258V part is as rare as hens teeth it seems. Battlemage has buyers lined up but no parts to put in their carts. What the heck is going on with Intel? It's almost like they're trying to fail.
Meanwhile AMD is just rolling along. Selling tons of Zen 5, 4, and 3. Zen 5 X3D is a big hit and they are seemingly selling good numbers with the big dog version on the way. Everything on track and A okay.
For office PC Intel is a no brainier choice especially the 12th gen SKU cheap and efficient for Gaming get 7800X3D(9800X3D is too expensive for what it is I would rather have 9950X than it ) for MT get 9900X/9950X/265KIf you look at benchmarks, the 265 wins very few compared to a 9950x. as hitman said
"'m sorry, but this just comes off as a very ahh, I'll say influenced post. For it to be your first post after just joining, hmmm."
Look here:
First: Transparency. All of you regulars deserve to know why a first post like that is, or is not, wished away to the cornfield. Spambot post go straight to the cornfield.
Second: I have been posting here for decades. If you read even .01% of my posts then you should know I don't abide FUD. I don't care who the vendor is, or why the FUD is being dispersed; homie don't play that.
Third: What an odd second question; It was no effort at all.