Anyone actually like Subway?

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BUTCH1

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I'd rather get a Publix sub.

Yup, for the same price (or lower) you get a hand-made roll instead of baked from frozen, much higher quality ingredients and for
$1 more you can get everything Boar's head brand. There is the occasional issue with untrained people so I watch as it's being made and correct them if needed but you get that issue at Subway as well sometimes. Sadly many who do not live near a Publix miss out on their great subs.
 

smackababy

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Yup, for the same price (or lower) you get a hand-made roll instead of baked from frozen, much higher quality ingredients and for
$1 more you can get everything Boar's head brand. There is the occasional issue with untrained people so I watch as it's being made and correct them if needed but you get that issue at Subway as well sometimes. Sadly many who do not live near a Publix miss out on their great subs.

Most grocery store delis are like this. While, I do agree that Publix was great for the price, any in store deli will have a sandwich deal much better than any of the fast food sub shops.
 

trmiv

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No. I used to eat there almost daily a few years ago though because the building I worked in had one in the lobby. I'd get busy and have no time to go anywhere, so I'd just grab a sub and go back to my desk. I think that made me not like it even more. That one eventually closed, so I rarely go now. I think I've been like maybe 5-7 times in the years since.
 

ElFenix

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Can't really compare 1960 to 1980, and if you did 1980 would probably be better.

E.g., In 1960 McDonald's basically just had cheeseburgers, fries and milkshakes/cola's on the menu. Things like the Big Mac and Filet-o-Fish all came later.

So, IMO, 1980 was better than 1960.

But basically I agree with your point. I'm not sure if it's me or did the regular ole cheeseburger get much smaller/worse? Can't believe that even as a kid I was happy with that.

Fern

afaik mcdonalds has always used the 10 per pound hamburger size.

what's changed is there's no flat top grill in the kitchen anymore. there's that double sided contact grill which doesn't let steam escape, so your burger gets little to no texture. it's then stored in a temp and humidity controlled cabinet where what little texture there might have been further degrades.

when the mcdonald brothers first implemented the speedee service system, they had a proper flat top grill. no idea when the grill went away. not sure if burgers were made by the order or whether they were stored after assembly. at some point mcdonalds was using heatlamps to keep burgers warm after assembly rather than storing the meat in the locker separately, not sure when that started or when it went away. obviously the heat lamps weren't good for burger quality but if you got one that had just been made that wouldn't affect it.
 

clamum

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I like Subway quite a bit. Their steak (or Big Philly Cheesesteak) and roast beef subs are my favorites. They used to have a Pizza Sub in the U.P. (a meatball w/o the meatballs, just sauce and pepperoni) but not here in downstate Michigan; that fucker was great too.
 

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I like Subway quite a bit. Their steak (or Big Philly Cheesesteak) and roast beef subs are my favorites. They used to have a Pizza Sub in the U.P. (a meatball w/o the meatballs, just sauce and pepperoni) but not here in downstate Michigan; that fucker was great too.

You can ask them to make a pizza sub at most of them and they know what it is even if it is off the menu. Works here in northern Indiana.
 

KeithTalent

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You can ask them to make a pizza sub at most of them and they know what it is even if it is off the menu. Works here in northern Indiana.

Yep, you can do it here too. They just put meatball sauce on it.

KT
 

BurnItDwn

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Used to go to subway every week back when I worked in Mt Prospect. Their sandwiches were pretty good, and it was uber convenient. I have noticed the last few times Ive gone to a subway, that the veggies didnt seem very fresh, and the wheat bread is not as good as it should be .... but I assumed I was just going to a bad/shitty franchise ... That said, there was a small sub shop called Submarine Express in Mt Prospect, and it was uber awesome, just was a couple miles away from office so had to drive vs the short walk to nearby strip mall for Subway.
 

Fern

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afaik mcdonalds has always used the 10 per pound hamburger size.

what's changed is there's no flat top grill in the kitchen anymore. there's that double sided contact grill which doesn't let steam escape, so your burger gets little to no texture. it's then stored in a temp and humidity controlled cabinet where what little texture there might have been further degrades.

when the mcdonald brothers first implemented the speedee service system, they had a proper flat top grill. no idea when the grill went away. not sure if burgers were made by the order or whether they were stored after assembly. at some point mcdonalds was using heatlamps to keep burgers warm after assembly rather than storing the meat in the locker separately, not sure when that started or when it went away. obviously the heat lamps weren't good for burger quality but if you got one that had just been made that wouldn't affect it.

Thanks. That explains quite a bit.

Many years ago one could see the burgers etc being cooked while standing around waiting to order. I left the US for a number of years and it seems now about all that I can see is the very end of an assembly line. I can't see any cooking, but have noticed workers reaching into a cabinet. I never thought about it before.

And yeah, I remember the heat lamps. And if a burger etc sat under the lamp too long it was thrown away. And since you mention it, I can't recall seeing that happen since I've been back in the US. I guess their cabinet thingy has really cut down on wasted food.

Fern
 

Chaotic42

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I guess their cabinet thingy has really cut down on wasted food.

Fern

Yep. It allows for a 20-30 minute holding time for meat, so right before the lunch rushes they cook up a good bit. If they still cooked stuff to order or only allowed for a couple of minute holding time on product, wait times would be absurd (or prices would be a lot higher)
 

Carson Dyle

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Yep. It allows for a 20-30 minute holding time for meat, so right before the lunch rushes they cook up a good bit. If they still cooked stuff to order or only allowed for a couple of minute holding time on product, wait times would be absurd (or prices would be a lot higher)

I haven't been in a McDonald's in years, but I recall that they used to have slide chutes behind the counter loaded up with sandwiches during lunch and dinner hours.

I'll bet that one of the biggest reasons they can't do that any longer is the number of items on the menu these days. From what I remember, there used to be only about six or seven popular sandwiches back in the 80s.
 

Chaotic42

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I haven't been in a McDonald's in years, but I recall that they used to have slide chutes behind the counter loaded up with sandwiches during lunch and dinner hours.

I'll bet that one of the biggest reasons they can't do that any longer is the number of items on the menu these days. From what I remember, there used to be only about six or seven popular sandwiches back in the 80s.

We were always completely forbidden from doing that, since it lowers the quality a lot faster. We didn't want to do it anyway, because a lot of us took a lot of pride in making the food as good as we could.
 

preslove

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Around here, which which is the best sub shop. Too bad the one that was walking distance from work closed :(. There's one near the grocery store, so the fiance and I will each get a 7" sub and split a chocolate shake (hand scooped, bitches).

I'll get a grinder with pepper jack cheese, pesto, olive salad, pickles, black olives red & yellow bell peppers, lettuce, vinaigrette, olive oil, and tried spicy mayo the last time I was there. I think I'll stick with pesto as the main sauce from now on.

About $20 for the two sandwiches and a small shake, and well worth it.

We'll walk to subway some times for lunch (not lately though), because it's walking distance from where we work. It's not very good, but it's cheap and there. We'd go to whichwhich if it was still open near work :( Oh, first world problems
 
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alkemyst

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Footlong Double Roast Beef on Wheat with cheese, all veggies and one sauce is about 900 calories. Far from a full days worth. Sure, you can make a sandwich a full days worth if you try, but a lot of the sandwiches do not equate to a full days worth of calories, even with double meat.

The base double roast beef on wheat with cheese is 920 calories. The fat-free sauces would add about 60-80 calories on a foot long. The veggies are all negligible.

However; that would be a decent lunch if followed by something similar for dinner as far as not going over one's needed calories. However; a lot of nutrients are missed from the processed stuff there.

The subway's around here have been better than our now out of business Quiznos and even some mom and pop shops (just because it says Family-owned deli, doesn't mean it's serving high quality meats and breads).

For a good sub in a place I don't know, I tend to look at the business and see if they are calling out the meat and cheese line up's they are using.
 

zinfamous

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When I was 18 I went vegan for a little over a year. Now at 32, I can't make it a day without eating meat. I just feel like I haven't eaten until I've got some animal protein. It's really weird.

I'm ready for soylent. Just give me a nutrient paste so I don't have to think about it. :p

I'm with you--I can't imagine not eating meat, but it's still a portion and quantity issue.

but soylent...oh gawd you don't want that. Farts for weeks.
 

zinfamous

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Why vinegar & oil and _oregano_ on a ham and cheese sandwich? That's what you normally top an Italian sub with. I'd imagine that ends up tasting much like an Italian, except that it's missing most of the best ingredients of an Italian sub, like the salami, cappicola and prosciutto.

I put that on everything. It's also great on a steak and cheese (provolone) with fresh tomatoes and lettuce and onions. ...Not the Subway version; I haven't had that in years because it's disgusting.

There was this local joint in my hometown that had a couple of different types of steak sandwiches, and they called one of them the "New Jersey," I think, and it was delicious. I'm not sure if that is something that people actually do in New Jersey, but I'm a fan.

I won't put mayonnaise on anything, and certainly not ketchup. Mustard on certain things. I dunno, maybe it's my preference for oil and vinegar over other useless condiments (and dislike of soda, of course), that keeps me from being a fatty? :\ (on the outside, anyway)
 
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Subway has gone way down hill in quality. Want to see them at their worst? Eat at one overseas. In south america they're awful but cost $8 for a foot long.
 

alkemyst

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Subway has gone way down hill in quality. Want to see them at their worst? Eat at one overseas. In south america they're awful but cost $8 for a foot long.

Many chains are like this, however; may be very tasty to the locals.

There are bad restaurants in all chains. There is one McDonalds here that is probably the worst I have ever been too - ants roaming the counters, crap all over the floors, counters and even soda machines.

Then there is another about 10 mins away that is probably the cleanest I have ever been too. Everything has a date tag on it and a 'replace on' date (bulk ketchup, etc).

I don't eat there, but it sometimes keeps the kids happy when they have a coupon for a freebie/BOGO deal.