Anybody else listening or watching the Rocket getting grilled

[ThePresence]

Originally posted by: Fingolfin269
The tone is definitely different in this thread than it would be if it were Bonds. Personally, I think we should just let them all go and be done with the whole thing. Clemens and Bonds perjured themselves? About doing 'roids or HGH? Who really cares and who thinks they should even be speaking in front of our Congress about this in the first place?

We have a past President who perjured himself when he said he didn't get blown under a White House desk (yes, I reworded it) so why should these guys be subjected to any more punishment than him?

Of course there's a different tone here than if we were talking about Bonds. We don't know that Clemens perjured himself, regardless of what anyone's personal opinion may be. We know that Bonds did. McNamee is obviously scum. He has been convicted of lying before. This is far from a sure thing.

 

[raystorm]

What jersey will you wear to the hall of fame?? ... <sigh>

"I didn't have a car in high school so I ran home to my condo/townhouse" lol

 

[BigJ]

I just tuned in.

Hah. Rocket sounds terrible with this nanny shit.

 

[Reckoner]

CLEMENS IS NAILED! Ahahahaha! Look at those lawyers shuffle after the Nanny question

 

[Capt Caveman]

Stick a Fork in him. He's done.

 

[ShotgunSteven]

Originally posted by: joshsquall
I am so glad that my tax dollars are funding an investigation of performance enhancing drugs in a privately owned business.

Me too. Drugs in sports are just one or two steps away from terrorism!

 

[ThePresence]

Originally posted by: BigJ
I just tuned in.

Hah. Rocket sounds terrible with this nanny shit.

Yeah, that sounds bad.
No wonder his lawyers had a fit.

 

[ThePresence]

Originally posted by: PaulNEPats
CLEMENS IS NAILED! Ahahahaha! Look at those lawyers shuffle after the Nanny question

Welcome to the party!
What took so long?

 

[BigJ]

How stupid is Rocket coming up with that excuse?

"I thought I was doing y'all a favor."

I mean come on.

 

[BigJ]

"I'm a forgiving person."

 

[ThePresence]

WTF is he babbling about?
How about answering the question?

 

[Reckoner]

Originally posted by: ThePresence

Originally posted by: PaulNEPats
CLEMENS IS NAILED! Ahahahaha! Look at those lawyers shuffle after the Nanny question

Welcome to the party!
What took so long?

This is like a good movie. It's hard to take my eyes off the TV

 

[ShotgunSteven]

Any place that this can be watched online?

 

[ThePresence]

Break time.

I think so far McNamee came across much worse than Clemens.
There are a few points Clemens couldn't wriggle out of, but McNamee looks like a complete scumbag.

 

[ThePresence]

Originally posted by: ShotgunSteven
Any place that this can be watched online?

Yes.

 

[csiro]

Man, I wished I had a lawyer behind me everytime I screwed up.

 

[FoBoT]

Originally posted by: ElFenix

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
any evidence they have is circumstantial.

mcnamee saying he injected roger is not circumstantial.

Originally posted by: FoBoT
he is going to get charged with perjury
his lawyer is a moran for having him testify

not hardin's decision.

fifth amendment doesn't apply for some reason?

 

[waggy]

i am disgusted that congress is doing this. but i am also disgusted with steroid use in sports.

but the way congress is handling it is worse.

 

[BigJ]

Originally posted by: FoBoT

Originally posted by: ElFenix

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
any evidence they have is circumstantial.

mcnamee saying he injected roger is not circumstantial.

Originally posted by: FoBoT
he is going to get charged with perjury
his lawyer is a moran for having him testify

not hardin's decision.

fifth amendment doesn't apply for some reason?

You're combining two different things.

If he doesn't testify willingly, he eventually gets subpoenaed.

You "plead the fifth" to get out of questions that may incriminate yourself, not to get out of testifying completely.

And even then, since it isn't a criminal trial, I don't even know if it applies. I don't believe he's forced to answer, so all he'd have to say no comment.

 

[dbk]

So in the end, is one of the two going to jail for perjury?

 

[ThePresence]

Originally posted by: dbk
So in the end, is one of the two going to jail for perjury?

If it can be proven which one is lying.
Looks doubtful that convincing proof exists.

 

[jman19]

Originally posted by: Nitemare
I'm a troll

QFT

 

[jman19]

Originally posted by: rh71
so are the recent Yankees' championships still not in question with him and Petitte?

You mean the one championship team Roger was on (2000, they would have wiped the floor with the Mets w/o Clemens anyway)?

Pettitte supposedly used in 2002.

So much for that idea.

 

[DBL]

Originally posted by: jman19

Originally posted by: rh71
so are the recent Yankees' championships still not in question with him and Petitte?

You mean the one championship team Roger was on (2000, they would have wiped the floor with the Mets w/o Clemens anyway)?

Pettitte supposedly used in 2002.

So much for that idea.

What do you say to this?


Game 1 Starter
Andy Pettitte (steroids)
Yankees win

Game 2 Starter
Roger Clemens (steroids)
Yankees win

Game 3 Starter
Orlando Hernandez
Mets win

Game 4 Starter
Denny Neagle (steroids)
Yankees win

Game 5 Starter
Andy Pettitte (steroids)
Yankees win
Winning pitcher of record in both games 1 and 5 : Mike Stanton - Roider
Yankees Steroid Users in 2000 World Series:
30.2 IP, 5 ER, 1.46 ERA

Non-Steroid Users:
16.1 IP, 9 ER, 4.95 ERA

 

[ThePresence]

We don't know that Clemens used steroids, and there are no allegations that Pettitte did. He used HGH, which is not anabolic steorids, to speed up recovery from an injury.