any website designers/UX people here looking for some side gigs?

[purbeast0]

my buddy and i are in the very very early stages of trying to start up a side business as a software consulting company, which in turn we are hoping to eventually turn into a fulltime gig. but as i said, at this point, it's basically in the conceptual stage.

i'm a software developer and he is a sales/marketing guy.

we are looking for someone to do some early mockup type of work for us for a couple websites that could potentially get us started with our first real jobs.

the very very early work won't be lucrative for you, but it could quickly turn into some extra cash. i'll explain more if interested.

i was wondering if there are any people here who would be interested because i know we have some tech people on this site who are in the industry.

if anyone has any interest, shoot me a PM on here or just let me know in here and i can give you some more information.

 

[yllus]

There's an excellent art director at my work (very large media company) who's been looking to start doing side gigs again. Could you pass me an e-mail address for him to contact?

 

[Ichinisan]

I have great interest in UI/UX design, but no professional experience with it.

 

[purbeast0]

There's an excellent art director at my work (very large media company) who's been looking to start doing side gigs again. Could you pass me an e-mail address for him to contact?

pm sent

I have great interest in UI/UX design, but no professional experience with it.

if you have a portfolio of sorts i can take a look at, i wouldnt mind checking it out.

 

[brianmanahan]

UI/UX designers were made obsolete by bootstrap

 

[purbeast0]

UI/UX designers were made obsolete by bootstrap

not even close.

bootstrap is just a framework to make a lot of shit easier with a lot of nice looking common components that are easy to use.

has absolutely nothing to do with actual design and ux.

bootstrap won't help you design shit like this:

http://www.ok-studios.de/home/

(and that's not my site or anything, i just think it is very slick and nice looking)

 

[Ns1]

I know a guy in Phoenix.

 

[GeekDrew]

UI/UX designers were made obsolete by bootstrap

Yeah, no. Not even a little bit.

See also the horrifying (but functional) works that I've done in bootstrap. I desperately need a UI/UX person, but have little to no money, since it's not a for-profit project. heh.

 

[NikolaeVarius]

not even close.

bootstrap is just a framework to make a lot of shit easier with a lot of nice looking common components that are easy to use.

has absolutely nothing to do with actual design and ux.

bootstrap won't help you design shit like this:

http://www.ok-studios.de/home/

(and that's not my site or anything, i just think it is very slick and nice looking)

Good god, "Modern" responsive web design has got to stop.

I understand that mobile is huge and making a desktop and a mobile website is labor intensive, but every single one of these kinds of sites feel exactly the same.

Tons of whitespace, very low information density, scrolling being a huge part of the "experience", the parralax effect between the foreground elements and background.

Its terrible and is cool for the first 10 seconds until I get pissed off.

 

[GeekDrew]

Good god, "Modern" responsive web design has got to stop.

I understand that mobile is huge and making a desktop and a mobile website is labor intensive, but every single one of these kinds of sites feel exactly the same.

Tons of whitespace, very low information density, scrolling being a huge part of the "experience", the parralax effect between the foreground elements and background.

Its terrible and is cool for the first 10 seconds until I get pissed off.

My sentiments exactly.

 

[purbeast0]

Good god, "Modern" responsive web design has got to stop.

I understand that mobile is huge and making a desktop and a mobile website is labor intensive, but every single one of these kinds of sites feel exactly the same.

Tons of whitespace, very low information density, scrolling being a huge part of the "experience", the parralax effect between the foreground elements and background.

Its terrible and is cool for the first 10 seconds until I get pissed off.

why would you get pissed off lol?

that site isn't "information density" in general. it's got 6 "pages" of information and that is it.

and that is a designers website, so of course they want it to look "neat" and cool.

why should modern web design stop? should we go back to geocities and angelfire? should we stop using the new features of css and html and javascript? should we not use the power of new browsers?

just curious what sites you think are "good" designs. i think that one is great for a design company, but it wouldn't be so great for like, a site like anandtech.

 

[brianmanahan]

UI/UX designers were made obsolete by bootstrap

not even close.

lol i know, i was kidding

i dislike doing UI design and would love to just work on backend/services for the rest of my career

but i keep getting thrown onto web projects x_x

luckily they are in an industry where the UI doesnt have to be pretty, just functional

 

[NikolaeVarius]

why would you get pissed off lol?

that site isn't "information density" in general. it's got 6 "pages" of information and that is it.

and that is a designers website, so of course they want it to look "neat" and cool.

why should modern web design stop? should we go back to geocities and angelfire? should we stop using the new features of css and html and javascript? should we not use the power of new browsers?

Apparently you think that needless flashy effects is the best use of the power of modern web languages. Also why is it a good thing that a mobile/tablet based interface is now being deployed as a catch all design for desktops?

This kind of design is the 2010's anglefire and geocities. Websites using newfangled frameworks that implement flashy things for the very sake of using those flashy things rather than usability.

 

[purbeast0]

lol i know, i was kidding

i dislike doing UI design and would love to just work on backend/services for the rest of my career

but i keep getting thrown onto web projects x_x

luckily they are in an industry where the UI doesnt have to be pretty, just functional

i love doing UI work, when given the design and mockups from designers. but coming up with design from scratch is tough.

also like doing backend work though.

 

[purbeast0]

Apparently you think that needless flash is the best use of the power of modern web languages.

That kind of design is the 2010's anglefire and geocities. Websites using newfangled frameworks that implement flashy things for the very sake of using those flashy things rather than usability.

so what is the problem about usability on that website that i linked?

 

[NikolaeVarius]

so what is the problem about usability on that website that i linked?

It's a scrolling based interface clearly designed for touchscreen use that has tons of flashy effects for no discernible reason and lowers information density.

From a design standpoint, its not even unique. Almost every single new "modern" startup website uses the exact same frameworks with the exact same style.

 

[purbeast0]

It's a scrolling based interface clearly designed for touchscreen use that has tons of flashy effects for no discernible reason and lowers information density.

From a design standpoint, its not even unique. Almost every single new "modern" startup website uses the exact same frameworks with the exact same style.

so ... what is the problem with the usability on that website i linked? you didn't even answer the question, you just said it's designed to scroll.

and if you don't feel like scrolling, there is a toolbar that sticks to the top of the page, that you can click on and see every "section" without ever scrolling.

 

[brianmanahan]

Apparently you think that needless flash is the best use of the power of modern web languages.

That kind of design is the 2010's anglefire and geocities. Websites using newfangled frameworks that implement flashy things for the very sake of using those flashy things rather than usability.

single page apps, my friend. single page apps are the future

i actually like JS framework (angular, ember, etc) + web services better than java or .net server pages. clean separation, leads naturally to REST interface, allows for easier conversion to a mobile app

 

[brianmanahan]

so what is the problem about usability on that website that i linked?

ich spreche kein deutsch!

 

[XavierMace]

I know a guy in Phoenix.

OMG, I almost cried when you posted that.

 

[Carson Dyle]

So these mockups are going to be used as examples of the web development work you can do? But apparently you haven't actually done any web development, so you don't have an actual portfolio.

If you anticipate doing much web design, I would suggest you find a web developer who you can work very closely with. Like local. This just seems like a bizarre approach, as if the developer is an afterthought.

In my experience, the best web site designers are not very good at writing code. The better UI coders typically have only marginal graphics design skills and vice versa. They can lay out something basic, and know their way around Photoshop to churn out some simple buttons and widgets, but they're not going to knock anyone's socks off with their design.

 

[purbeast0]

So these mockups are going to be used as examples of the web development work you can do? But apparently you haven't actually done any web development, so you don't have an actual portfolio.

If you anticipate doing much web design, I would suggest you find a web developer who you can work very closely with. Like local. This just seems like a bizarre approach, as if the developer is an afterthought.

In my experience, the best web site designers are not very good at writing code. The better UI coders typically have only marginal graphics design skills and vice versa. They can lay out something basic, and know their way around Photoshop to churn out some simple buttons and widgets, but they're not going to knock anyone's socks off with their design.

i am the developer heh. i just need a designer/ux person.

guess that wasn't clear in my OP?

i do webapp development professionally, front and backend, but i work with ux people (who suck so i'm not asking them to help lol) and ux people make a HUGE difference between a good experience and a bad one.

 

[KlokWyze]

not even close.

bootstrap is just a framework to make a lot of shit easier with a lot of nice looking common components that are easy to use.

has absolutely nothing to do with actual design and ux.

bootstrap won't help you design shit like this:

http://www.ok-studios.de/home/

(and that's not my site or anything, i just think it is very slick and nice looking)

I can bang out some simple stuff, but I wouldn't call myself a professional by any means. This is a terrible web site, but it's what the masses think is totally "hawt" right now.

 

[drebo]

not even close.

bootstrap is just a framework to make a lot of shit easier with a lot of nice looking common components that are easy to use.

has absolutely nothing to do with actual design and ux.

bootstrap won't help you design shit like this:

http://www.ok-studios.de/home/

(and that's not my site or anything, i just think it is very slick and nice looking)

As a user, I completely, totally, and honestly absolutely detest that style of website.

It's useless for actually getting the information you want. Which, as a user, is what I want.

 

[purbeast0]

I can bang out some simple stuff, but I wouldn't call myself a professional by any means. This is a terrible web site, but it's what the masses think is totally "hawt" right now.

why is it terrible? i'm curious to hear why people think it's so bad. only other person's reason was because "its designed to scroll".

i'm curious what you all think of this site:

http://gamesparks.com/

that is the backend server i use for a unity3d online multiplayer game i'm working on, and i found their website to be very nice.

obviously it's all just opinion on what is good/bad, but i'm curious what sites you guys think are "good designs" and link to them, instead of saying why things are bad for no reason. i'd be curious to hear why the ones you think are good, are good.