Any way to split internet connection between 2 pc's that won't affect eachothers ping

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AnonymouseUser

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that field and couple of others are not there :p, ye i guess I need other router, but it's 40€ gamble if it will help

I would assume that if you purchased a new router for QoS and it failed to fix your issue, you could return the router for a refund. Where would you purchase? If the router choices are listed on the stores website, we could help choose a satisfactory model.
 
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I would assume that if you purchased a new router for QoS and it failed to fix your issue, you could return the router for a refund. Where would you purchase? If the router choices are listed on the stores website, we could help choose a satisfactory model.
I am now on a BF4 server, I turn on 3 pages with 1080p youtube vids and I put torrent on, and ping goes max 150ms and it doesn't actually teleport me, I have no idea why.. it doesnt lagg that much, or even at all...

and when my roommate watches youtube it puts me even above 300ms, how? and why?
 

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I am now on a BF4 server, I turn on 3 pages with 1080p youtube vids and I put torrent on, and ping goes max 150ms and it doesn't actually teleport me, I have no idea why.. it doesnt lagg that much, or even at all...

and when my roommate watches youtube it puts me even above 300ms, how? and why?

I don't know why the discrepancy. Are you both using wireless connections, and are they both wireless N? Wireless b or g will likely be fine for one user with that much streaming, but a second user will cause lag. Even if one user is using b or g, it will slow the entire wireless network to b or g speeds.
 
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I don't know why the discrepancy. Are you both using wireless connections, and are they both wireless N? Wireless b or g will likely be fine for one user with that much streaming, but a second user will cause lag. Even if one user is using b or g, it will slow the entire wireless network to b or g speeds.
ye both wifi, idk what n b or g is
 

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ye both wifi, idk what n b or g is

Change the Mode here to 802.11n only. If one or both of you can no longer connect, then you're both not using wireless n adapters.

** Note that if neither of you can connect via wireless after making this change, you will need to use a network cable to connect to the router and undo this setting. **

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Change the Mode here to 802.11n only. If one or both of you can no longer connect, then you're both not using wireless n adapters.

** Note that if neither of you can connect via wireless after making this change, you will need to use a network cable to connect to the router and undo this setting. **

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will try tomorrow, I ask my bro smthg and he said when others watch yt it laggs for him more than when he does it
 

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Change the Mode here to 802.11n only. If one or both of you can no longer connect, then you're both not using wireless n adapters.

** Note that if neither of you can connect via wireless after making this change, you will need to use a network cable to connect to the router and undo this setting. **

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ok I actually wont do it cuz I dont have the cable ;D
 

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ok, hovering over internet connection already tells me it's 802.11n, gotta check roommates, even tho I read a bit on internet, idk how that would affect anything since 802.11b uses speed of 11Mb/s
 

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ok, hovering over internet connection already tells me it's 802.11n, gotta check roommates, even tho I read a bit on internet, idk how that would affect anything since 802.11b uses speed of 11Mb/s

Since it is n you know you won't get locked out, so go ahead and set the Mode to 802.11n only.
 

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Is there any reason why you cannot test hardwire? Just connect your pc to the wifi router with ethernet cable.
 

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and that would test exactly what?

For one thing, it would verify if the wireless connections are getting the full speed of the internet connection. It's not unusual for modem/router combos to have insufficient wireless hardware, especially since the device shares a CPU between the modem and the router.

Go ahead and get a dedicated router with QoS, set the modem to bridge mode, and see how it performs. There's no guarantee it will completely solve your issue, but you can always return the router if it doesn't help.
 

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For one thing, it would verify if the wireless connections are getting the full speed of the internet connection. It's not unusual for modem/router combos to have insufficient wireless hardware, especially since the device shares a CPU between the modem and the router.

Go ahead and get a dedicated router with QoS, set the modem to bridge mode, and see how it performs. There's no guarantee it will completely solve your issue, but you can always return the router if it doesn't help.
when I get the new router, I raplace the old one or I need to bridge it with this one so both are turned on? and if, what cables are needed. And which ones would be ok, .. just wanted to post here link but the website is now down for some odd reason, what are the chances o.o, gona add it later
 

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TL-WN822N is my adapter, it's cheap now but I remember it being like 3 times the price as it's now back then
 

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and that would test exactly what?


Gaming over wifi is a losing proposition at best of times, add in priority heavy packets like video streaming into the mix and you are just asking for trouble.
Also, removing wifi from the mix will remove one more layer. Bottom line, wired eats wifi for breakfast. You only go wifi if you cannot do wired.
 

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when I get the new router, I raplace the old one or I need to bridge it with this one so both are turned on? and if, what cables are needed. And which ones would be ok, .. just wanted to post here link but the website is now down for some odd reason, what are the chances o.o, gona add it later

When you get the new router, you plug it into one of the available LAN ports on the modem (LAN to WAN, cable should be included), set the modem into Bridge Mode (disables onboard router), and put the new router into AP Mode (default, usually). Setup wireless on your new router, connect to new network, and start testing.
 

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ok my roommates laptop has also 802.11n, would me going wired fix anything with the connection that he's wireless? I used wifi cuz at home I couldn't pull off a 30m cable across the 3/4 house cuz my father had no brain to add ethernet cable into the wall, but now here I can buy one then, website is called www.links.hr but it's down for some reason
 

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When you get the new router, you plug it into one of the available LAN ports on the modem (LAN to WAN, cable should be included), set the modem into Bridge Mode (disables onboard router), and put the new router into AP Mode (default, usually). Setup wireless on your new router, connect to new network, and start testing.
lol so basically both having 802.11n connections and we got mixed on configuration, we're set up for max 11Mbps cuz that 1 option right? that's quiet close to our max, gona try to switch later,
https://www.links.hr/hr/routeri-053524#/pageSize=24&viewMode=grid&orderBy=11&pageNumber=3
is this one https://www.links.hr/hr/adsl-router...-4-port-802-11ac-1-wan-port-bezicni-053524091 overkill or are the "extra" or is https://www.links.hr/hr/wireless-ro...1-port-lan-4-port-2x-antena-bezicni-053524150 one just the same, idk where the extra money goes..

and what's the diff between those 2, one is wireless and one isn't? meaning?
https://www.links.hr/hr/adsl-router...1-port-10-100-wan-2x-antena-bezicni-053524158
https://www.links.hr/hr/adsl-router...icni-multifunkcijski-router-usb-2-0-053524167
 

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lol so basically both having 802.11n connections and we got mixed on configuration, we're set up for max 11Mbps cuz that 1 option right?

No, not quite. It is setup to allow b/g/n connections, but if anyone connects with a b or g adapter, it will slow the entire network to b or g speeds. If only n clients are connected, you should get n speeds. Basically with most basic routers, the connection is only as fast as the slowest client.

That said, just because it's rated @ n 150mbps or 300mbps, it doesn't mean you will get those speeds. Those are theoretical and usually only possible in a test setting. Even then wifi is half-duplex, so you only get max 75mbps each direction with n150, or 150mbps with n300, in ideal situations. This FAQ should help clear things up. With two clients using the wireless network simultaneously, most basic n routers will give 37.5mbps to 75mbps to each client. It's confusing I know, and the speed ratings are nothing like wired connections which are full duplex.

and what's the diff between those 2, one is wireless and one isn't? meaning?

There is no major difference between the two that I can tell, at least not in any meaningful way for your situation. I would recommend the Asus RT-N12 D1 over either of those, to be honest.
 
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No, not quite. It is setup to allow b/g/n connections, but if anyone connects with a b or g adapter, it will slow the entire network to b or g speeds. If only n clients are connected, you should get n speeds. Basically with most basic routers, the connection is only as fast as the slowest client.

That said, just because it's rated @ n 150mbps or 300mbps, it doesn't mean you will get those speeds. Those are theoretical and usually only possible in a test setting. Even then wifi is half-duplex, so you only get max 75mbps each direction with n150, or 150mbps with n300, in ideal situations. This FAQ should help clear things up. With two clients using the wireless network simultaneously, most basic n routers will give 37.5mbps to 75mbps to each client. It's confusing I know, and the speed ratings are nothing like wired connections which are full duplex.



There is no major difference between the two that I can tell, at least not in any meaningful way for your situation. I would recommend the Asus RT-N12 D1 over either of those, to be honest.
do I really need to plug the wireless router to my ISP's one? or can I use the new on instead of the ISP's? and if I do the bridge, so both are connected, does the new one still does the connection quality job at it's fullest so the ISP's chinese modem (which is a wireless router right) doesn't pull it down in quality?
 

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do I really need to plug the wireless router to my ISP's one? or can I use the new on instead of the ISP's? and if I do the bridge, so both are connected, does the new one still does the connection quality job at it's fullest so the ISP's chinese modem (which is a wireless router right) doesn't pull it down in quality?

The ISP provided router is a modem and a router combo. You cannot have internet without a modem, so if you wanted to eliminate their hardware completely, you'd need either another modem/router combo (eg, not recommended), or a separate modem and router. With just the modem, you can connect a total of 1 (one) devices to the internet. For two or more connections (you and roommate) you'd need a router. The ISP device will likely perform adequate as a dedicated modem (router disabled), so I recommend just adding a new router.
 
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