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Barrak

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I like a bed with head and foot panels that you can tie things to. And plenty of mirors around... Wait, thats my bedroom.
 

virtuamike

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The fairest way is to base your share of rent on floor area. Figure out common areas like bathroom, kitchen, hallways, etc. and forget about those (unless they're part of the rooms). Then just calculate total floor area of the remaining rooms and split according to use. That's about as fair as you can get.
 

polm

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Ok..well I have begun the conversation. I talked to him at the house and just said we needed to talk. He left, and then e-mailed me asking what was up. Here is the e-amils:


My Message:

Ok dude, we need to re-evaluate how mcuh we all pay in rent. Once you see the house "naked" you will realize how much more the master needs to be. Right now if you pay 475, then me and Pat each paty 465. That isnt gonna work. It needs to be more like 525 - 450 - 425. My room doesnt have nearly as much sapce as yours, and mine is actually a little smaller than Pats. Plus you got your own bathroom. We are gonna have to figure this out fairly. Ill call you later.


His Message:

I can't pay anymore then 475. I can't afford anymore then that. I will compromise but ...


My MEssage:

There is no way I am paying 10$ less than you. Your room has 2 large closets, 1 bathroom, and twice the room I have. I have NO closets, and I have to share a bathroom. Pats room is only a little larger than mine, but atleast he has a closet. I made a mistake by not paying closer attention to the sizes. But this is the only way it is going to be FAIR. And if it isnt fair, it isnt gonna work. Truthfuylly the split should be 550 - 450 - 400, but I am trying to be considerate of your situation


 

Keribeth

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I dont think you should pay 50 bucks less than the guy in the middle room. A closet isnt worth that much. maybe 10 bucks a month but even then...the middle guy is getting screwed. He didnt get a choice in his room since you picked yours and the other guy took the big bedroom and now you're jacking up his rent?
 

VRoOMdesigns

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This is my suggestion:

You know that story from a movie somewhere where this mom is talking about how she divides up a piece of cake for her two kids? She lets one kid cut it, and she lets the other kid choose who gets which piece. This way, the first kid'll cut it as equally as possible.

Basically, it all has to be equal. You won't be satisfied with the way the things work out unless you set up a pricing system for the three different rooms and are as ambivalent as possible between all three choices. At the point that you won't mind taking ANY of the rooms at their respective costs, you have reached your solution.

Just my two cents.
 

Raspewtin

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i say you figure out how many total square feet total, divide up the rent based on sq. feet and everyone pays how much for how much sq feet they get. that seems fair.
 

polm

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Keribeth: Well actually ...the guy in the middle bedroom flipped a coin with the guy in the master bedroom.

Roomate #1 (the one with the master bedroom originally) has submitted, and will be happy to pay 400 for the smaller. I may absorb 25 more bux and pay 575, leaving roomate #2 to pay 425. I am not demanding the master, but just that the payments be fair.
 

polm

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(whoever is being cheap and has the master)

How is paying 575 for the master being cheap ?

I think we should divide all utiliteis evenly.
 

polm

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AnimeKnight: Exactly. I definitely dont want to screw roomate #2 over. I dont think 450 is too much to ask from him, seeing as he was planning on paying that anyway, but if he has isses I will be happy to absorb another 25 $ a month.
 

Keribeth

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Well its good that you can all discuss it and are open to suggestions. I agree with you about the utilities. It would be too hard to figure out who owes what. Now that you have the master bedroom in your sites...go for the queen size water bed...:D
 

polm

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yelloperil: I agree that if I pay 575 - 425 - 400, that I might be getting kinda shafted...but I think roomate #2 will be cool with 550 - 450 - 400...and that seems fair to me.
 

b0mbrman

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I really don't know what to do with your splitting the rent problem. I don't think measuring square space is fair though. It makes sense but then you have to throw in the fact that you all use the common areas evenly, you all get the security of living in a place, and other stuff which I can't think of.

Do you have a living room? I say you just make your bedroom for sleeping...and perhaps seggzing...

Do all your work in the living room and suck it up until you can yoink one of the bigger rooms.
 

aidan

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i had a small square room, and i cut a hole in the top of it, built a bed on the floor of the attic above the next room, and walled it and threw a couple of windows into the roof, and hey presto, a huge bed and a nice airry room below!! v.nice:D
(PM me for details)
 

frizzlefry

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<< I really don't know what to do with your splitting the rent problem. I don't think measuring square space is fair though. It makes sense but then you have to throw in the fact that you all use the common areas evenly, you all get the security of living in a place, and other stuff which I can't think of.

Do you have a living room? I say you just make your bedroom for sleeping...and perhaps seggzing...

Do all your work in the living room and suck it up until you can yoink one of the bigger rooms.
>>



Most people when calculating rent based on space, DO NOT include the common areas. How easy can it get?
 

glaHHg

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The most fair way: everybody pay the same and randomly select who gets each room.
Then somebody can volunteer to pay more to try to trade for a bigger room if they wish.
 

b0mbrman

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Most people when calculating rent based on space, DO NOT include the common areas. How easy can it get?

Assume a 2 bedroom place composed of bedroom A, livingroom, bedroom B with the following dimensions
[3m x 4m bedroom]-[livingroom]-[4m x 6m bedroom]

Your system assumes that each person gets an amount of utility equal to the area of their room which I'll assume to be true.

Person A has a utility of 12 from their room while person B has a utility of 24 from their room. Person A should pay 1/3 of the rent while person B should pay 2/3 of it.

However, they each get a certain amount of utility from the common area--the living room--which we assume is equal and which we'll arbitrarily call X.

Person A now gets a total utility of 12 + X from living in the apartment while person B gets a total utility of 24 + X.

Person A now pays 1/3 of the rent but gets (12 + X)/(36 + 2X) or more than 1/3 of the total utility. Plug in any positive number you want (positive because we're assuming that they can only be helped by the living room)
 

Thegonagle

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Polm, if you can afford it, and you want it, take the Master suite for $550 and give the no furniture having guy a ?good deal? on his rent at only $400, it can only be win/win. That?s right, you work hard for it, so get it! He doesn?t work so hard (yet, anyway), so he might appreciate the $66.66 break on the rent. I?d sure as hell want my own bathroom and space for a Queen size bed. It?s win/win/win, if you consider that the middle guy in the middle bedroom pays $450 and saves $16.66 per month.

OOps edited the totals based on re-reading your e-mail.

It might not work any other way.
 

Raspewtin

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<< Person A now pays 1/3 of the rent but gets (12 + X)/(36 + 2X) or more than 1/3 of the total utility. Plug in any positive number you want (positive because we're assuming that they can only be helped by the living room >>





you divide the living room among the users (take the total sq space of common area, and divide up evenly among the roomate for calculation's sake) so that if if person A has 12 bedroom , person b has 24 bedroom, and the living room is 12 bedroom, then person A pays 3/8 of the rent, and person B pays 5/8 of the rent. You should also handle bathrooms the same way so that if share a bathroom you count half of that space as yours, and if you have your own bathroom, that is part of your sq feet.