any smokers hate smoking outside of work?

[GodlessAstronomer]

I'm a smoker and I don't like smoking indoors.

 

[duragezic]

I don't really like to do it only because it may reflect badly on you to some people, but I do it anyway.

Where I work is cool with it because they allow it but only in a designated shack out in the back and away from the entrance. As far as taking breaks on company time, the rule is simply that you can't charge time while smoking. There are no butts littered because they provide ash trays/butt buckets. Heh I notice the guys who have to empty them are the cleaning workers who smoke anyway.

A good choice by the site leaders IMO. Win-win for smokers and non-smokers.

 

[Blackjack200]

Originally posted by: SacrosanctFiend

Originally posted by: weflyhigh

Originally posted by: SacrosanctFiend

Originally posted by: weflyhigh
I know it sucks especially because our president is overweight and doesn't smoke

Because that's relevant....

And the fact that someone smokes or not is?

Yes. It's a burden on our healthcare costs, depreciates our image to our outside vendors/customers, and requires us to set up space for them when it can be used to house something beneficial to our company. Not to mention the majority of exempt smokers wasted a ton of time smoking when they only had to walk 500 ft, myself included.

That's your perspective as an employer. If I was an employee that smoked, I would feel jerked around by a policy like this, and mightlook for an opportunity to leave.

Probably wouldn't affect you that much in the U.S. since a relatively low percentage of workers smoke on the job, but you could end up losing some talent at some point.

 

[MmmSkyscraper]

Ha ha! /Nelson

 

[meltdown75]

Originally posted by: HardcoreRobot
regularly smoking seems like such an inconvenience

it is. it's simultaneously the dumbest and most worthless thing you can do to your body and life...

...and i'm right back into the smokes. drinking and smoking alllll summmmerrrr longggg

my body is taking a shitkicking.

oh yeah and i don't smoke indoors... i don't even like smoking in my garage when i'm @ home.

 

[Liet]

Originally posted by: meltdown75

Originally posted by: HardcoreRobot
regularly smoking seems like such an inconvenience

it is. it's simultaneously the dumbest and most worthless thing you can do to your body and life...

Yep, it is, and I hate it. But, it's also incredibly fucking pleasurable in so many circumstances.

Been trying to quit for a while now, but it won't happen because my heart isn't in it.

 

[moshquerade]

Originally posted by: swbsam
I've casually picked up smoking again.. BAH! I hate it..

What I hate most is smoking outside of my office building - i feel like standing outside of a building is only acceptable at bars, so i walk around the block until I'm done smoking.

Anyone else have this hang up?

:slapupsidethehead: for many reasons.

 

[Auggie]

<INCONVENIENT REMINDER THAT PEOPLE WHO DO NOT SMOKE LIVE LONGER AND WIND UP USING MUCH MORE HEALTHCARE RESOURCES>

 

[lokiju]

When I used to smoke years ago I'd almost never smoke at work.

Didn't want people looking at me differently just because I smoked.

I'd usually have one on the way to work then if I went out, one at lunch then one on the way home from work.

But really looking back at it, smoking is a very silly thing to do.

 

[ViviTheMage]

Originally posted by: coloumb
What I find funny - people who smoke in cars, with the windows cracked about 6", while holding the cigarette out the window.

But..no - it doesn't bother me smokers have to stand outside to smoke.

What does bother me is the smoking area is right next to the entrance to the back of our office which is littered with used cigarettes all over the ground [even though there is a bin available to throw away the used up cigarette].

Yeah, I hate this took...and that dank smell around the doors where they do smoke.

 

[Chunkee]

how many of you smokers smoke menthols?

 

[meltdown75]

Originally posted by: Liet

Originally posted by: meltdown75

Originally posted by: HardcoreRobot
regularly smoking seems like such an inconvenience

it is. it's simultaneously the dumbest and most worthless thing you can do to your body and life...

Yep, it is, and I hate it. But, it's also incredibly fucking pleasurable in so many circumstances.

Been trying to quit for a while now, but it won't happen because my heart isn't in it.

i'm right there with you bro. :beer: ___~

 

[Liet]

Originally posted by: Auggie
<INCONVENIENT REMINDER THAT PEOPLE WHO DO NOT SMOKE LIVE LONGER AND WIND UP USING MUCH MORE HEALTHCARE RESOURCES>

Yeah, but I get to enjoy a great smoke after mind-blowing sex, or along with piping hot coffee, whereas you'll start drooling at 85 and will stay that way until your death at 110. 😉

 

[surfsatwerk]

Originally posted by: Liet

Originally posted by: Auggie
<INCONVENIENT REMINDER THAT PEOPLE WHO DO NOT SMOKE LIVE LONGER AND WIND UP USING MUCH MORE HEALTHCARE RESOURCES>

Yeah, but I get to enjoy a great smoke after mind-blowing sex, or along with piping hot coffee, whereas you'll start drooling at 85 and will stay that way until your death at 110. 😉

Swear to god the best time to smoke is after you get done running. I run a couple miles 4 or 5 times a week and I refuse to smoke on those days until after I get done working out, around 10pm. You can feel your entire lungs filled with smokey goodness.

 

[RKS]

People smoke in their offices here. We have had warnings from the state but they are usually ignored.

 

[Mo0o]

Originally posted by: Blackjack200

Originally posted by: SacrosanctFiend

Originally posted by: weflyhigh

Originally posted by: SacrosanctFiend

Originally posted by: weflyhigh
I know it sucks especially because our president is overweight and doesn't smoke

Because that's relevant....

And the fact that someone smokes or not is?

Yes. It's a burden on our healthcare costs, depreciates our image to our outside vendors/customers, and requires us to set up space for them when it can be used to house something beneficial to our company. Not to mention the majority of exempt smokers wasted a ton of time smoking when they only had to walk 500 ft, myself included.

That's your perspective as an employer. If I was an employee that smoked, I would feel jerked around by a policy like this, and mightlook for an opportunity to leave.

Probably wouldn't affect you that much in the U.S. since a relatively low percentage of workers smoke on the job, but you could end up losing some talent at some point.

Nothing that can't be made up with equally talented non-smokers. Smokers tend to be sick more often, take more breaks and generally smell bad. In fields where you have to present in front of clients, smelling like cigarettes is not a good thing

 

[Auggie]

Oh, I smoke. My all-caps, immature response was just pointing out that smokers are cheaper on the healthcare system than non-smokers. We get cancer and burn out in a few months, rather than needing constant care and maintenance throughout our 70s, 80s, 90s, etc.

 

[SacrosanctFiend]

Originally posted by: Auggie
Oh, I smoke. My all-caps, immature response was just pointing out that smokers are cheaper on the healthcare system than non-smokers. We get cancer and burn out in a few months, rather than needing constant care and maintenance throughout our 70s, 80s, 90s, etc.

But you cost more to my company during your 20s, 30s, 40s, 50s, 60s, etc.

 

[hanoverphist]

Originally posted by: meltdown75

Originally posted by: HardcoreRobot
regularly smoking seems like such an inconvenience

it is. it's simultaneously the dumbest and most worthless thing you can do to your body and life...

.

wow, smoking cigs is worse than crack? heroin? huffing paint? i can think of many things that are definitely worse than smoking cigs.

the healthcare cost issue is a smoke screen to me. there is no definitive answer ive seen yet that really proves one way or the other. anyone have a real unbiased study on it?

i love how smokers are for the most part tolerant of the non smoking view, but nonsmokers are like the "pro lifers" at a "prochoice" rally. tossing hand grenades and shooting machine guns into the crowds of "murderers"

 

[Phokus]

At my work, smokers are only allowed to smoke in the parking lot across the street... not even near the parking lot next to the building. I wish all workplaces did this. Last thing i want is a cloud of smoking going in my nose as soon as i step outside.

 

[Squisher]

Originally posted by: swbsam
any smokers hate smoking outside of work?

No, but I've taken up mainlining heroin and everyone is freaked. I pull out the spoon and the lighter and people leave the room.

Like, get over it people.

 

[oogabooga]

My work has a little bench and an ashtray thing the legally required whatever 15ft? usually when someone goes out for a smoke one or two people follow (sometimes even people who don't smoke) and it's a little team huddle outside.

 

[SacrosanctFiend]

Originally posted by: hanoverphist

Originally posted by: meltdown75

Originally posted by: HardcoreRobot
regularly smoking seems like such an inconvenience

it is. it's simultaneously the dumbest and most worthless thing you can do to your body and life...

.

wow, smoking cigs is worse than crack? heroin? huffing paint? i can think of many things that are definitely worse than smoking cigs.

the healthcare cost issue is a smoke screen to me. there is no definitive answer ive seen yet that really proves one way or the other. anyone have a real unbiased study on it?

i love how smokers are for the most part tolerant of the non smoking view, but nonsmokers are like the "pro lifers" at a "prochoice" rally. tossing hand grenades and shooting machine guns into the crowds of "murderers"

Smoke screen? I see the exact amount each employee costs my company in healthcare, and the smoker's average around $2,000/yr higher in direct cost (not taking into account sick leave or productivity numbers). Those numbers are definitive enough for me. They aren't based of statistics, they are exact.

We could charge them a surcharge, but we don't. We just make it harder for them to smoke on company time. Seems fair enough to me.

 

[lxskllr]

Originally posted by: SacrosanctFiend

We could charge them a surcharge, but we don't. We just make it harder for them to smoke on company time. Seems fair enough to me.

Sure, as long as you ban sodas, and high fat foods also.

 

[SacrosanctFiend]

Originally posted by: lxskllr

Originally posted by: SacrosanctFiend

We could charge them a surcharge, but we don't. We just make it harder for them to smoke on company time. Seems fair enough to me.

Sure, as long as you ban sodas, and high fat foods also.

Except that smoking is a behavior, and obesity is a disease. That's the way they're classified, that's what we have to go by.