any laws on the topic? I was sent the wrong item from a business via mail, do I have to ship it back?

[Gooberlx2]

To be honest, the one thing I would play hardball with them on is having a courier come out to pick it up. For instance, if we didn't have my CRV, I would have no way to transport such a TV to the post office. THAT's where I would tell them to pound sand.

 

[moshquerade]

Originally posted by: Lifted

Originally posted by: Slew Foot
Haha. They have your address and CC info, they can totally screw your credit over. Heck, they can even charge you for grand theft at this point, have fun trying to get a job/loan with a felony and a shit credit score.

Felony? They sent him a TV then refunded his money. They should be charged with felony stupidity.

No, they made a mistake and are trying to get their property back. I hope they call the police on the OP.

 

[Mo0o]

Originally posted by: Gooberlx2
To be honest, the one thing I would play hardball with them on is having a courier come out to pick it up. For instance, if we didn't have my CRV, I would have no way to transport such a TV to the post office. THAT's where I would tell them to pound sand.

I agree with this one. Ask them to arrange for USPS or UPS direct pick up rather than make you carry it over th some post office which is a legitimate hassle. But in the end you need to return that

 

[venkman]

Considering you are trying to rip people off, It isn't surprising you work for Chevron.

 

[Mo0o]

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: Lifted

Originally posted by: Slew Foot
Haha. They have your address and CC info, they can totally screw your credit over. Heck, they can even charge you for grand theft at this point, have fun trying to get a job/loan with a felony and a shit credit score.

Felony? They sent him a TV then refunded his money. They should be charged with felony stupidity.

No, they made a mistake and are trying to get their property back. I hope they call the police on the OP.

Well, them sending the item to his house means it's technically his property now, not the store's. I dont think there's any legitimate legal recourse on the company's part to FORCE him to return it.

 

[LikeLinus]

Originally posted by: Gooberlx2
To be honest, the one thing I would play hardball with them on is having a courier come out to pick it up. For instance, if we didn't have my CRV, I would have no way to transport such a TV to the post office. THAT's where I would tell them to pound sand.

I can understand that. Also, a 46" TV is large and heavy. You may not have a way to transport it. I would tell them that and have them work with UPS or FedEx to send out a call tag to come pick it up.

 

[Lifted]

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: Lifted

Originally posted by: Slew Foot
Haha. They have your address and CC info, they can totally screw your credit over. Heck, they can even charge you for grand theft at this point, have fun trying to get a job/loan with a felony and a shit credit score.

Felony? They sent him a TV then refunded his money. They should be charged with felony stupidity.

No, they made a mistake and are trying to get their property back. I hope they call the police on the OP.

Yeah, the police are going to go to his house and steal his TV because some person called from some company and told them to. It's more likely the entire police department will be laughing their asses off that this person called them for this nonsense.

 

[LikeLinus]

Originally posted by: Lifted

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: Lifted

Originally posted by: Slew Foot
Haha. They have your address and CC info, they can totally screw your credit over. Heck, they can even charge you for grand theft at this point, have fun trying to get a job/loan with a felony and a shit credit score.

Felony? They sent him a TV then refunded his money. They should be charged with felony stupidity.

No, they made a mistake and are trying to get their property back. I hope they call the police on the OP.

Yeah, the police are going to go to his house and steal his TV because some person called from some company and told them to. It's more likely the entire police department will be laughing their asses off that this person called them for this nonsense.

Are you 12? Seriously. It's called filing a police report. No one said the police are going to go steal his TV.

You're pretty fucking dense.

 

[moshquerade]

Originally posted by: Lifted

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: Lifted

Originally posted by: Slew Foot
Haha. They have your address and CC info, they can totally screw your credit over. Heck, they can even charge you for grand theft at this point, have fun trying to get a job/loan with a felony and a shit credit score.

Felony? They sent him a TV then refunded his money. They should be charged with felony stupidity.

No, they made a mistake and are trying to get their property back. I hope they call the police on the OP.

Yeah, the police are going to go to his house and steal his TV because some person called from some company and told them to. It's more likely the entire police department will be laughing their asses off that this person called them for this nonsense.

You work for the LAPD?

 

[Baltazar325]

I had a client get arrested for walking out of Wal Mart with a 20oz coke.


Loss prevention showed up for court. I dont know Cali criminal law but it seems like they could at least file a warrant. It will more than likely get dropped in court but not before the OP gets picked up, charged and has to post bail.

 

[AlienCraft]

Originally posted by: rudeguy

Originally posted by: RIGorous1
Ethically speaking I agree with you Amused; the right thing would be to return it, but...

From a practical standpoint I'm thinking that it was their mistake to begin with, so why should I go through the trouble of having to repackage this monster, spending money to drive to the nearest postal office/etc., waiting in the holiday line, and not be compensated for it all.

Besides, I want to keep the darn thing, so if theres some law that allows me too, why not?

Its called ethics.

And Character and Integrity.

Your money has been credited back to your account, in good faith.
If you continue to act in bad faith, you will find all sorts opf legalcomplications from your failure to act in good faith.

And from the sounds of it, the sooner it happens the better, because you are a tool who still needs to learn how to behave with the rest of society.

 

[venkman]

Originally posted by: AlienCraft

Originally posted by: rudeguy

Originally posted by: RIGorous1
Ethically speaking I agree with you Amused; the right thing would be to return it, but...

From a practical standpoint I'm thinking that it was their mistake to begin with, so why should I go through the trouble of having to repackage this monster, spending money to drive to the nearest postal office/etc., waiting in the holiday line, and not be compensated for it all.

Besides, I want to keep the darn thing, so if theres some law that allows me too, why not?

Its called ethics.

And Character and Integrity.

Your money has been credited back to your account, in good faith.
If you continue to act in bad faith, you will find all sorts opf legalcomplications from your failure to act in good faith.

And from the sounds of it, the sooner it happens the better, because you are a tool who still needs to learn how to behave with the rest of society.

And while you may have the law on your side and win (arguable still) you will still pay more to a lawyer and in court fees than you would have payed for the full TV.

 

[AlienCraft]

Originally posted by: ChaoZ

Originally posted by: theblackbox

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: theblackbox
too bad they can't affect your heat rating, i wouldn't trade with you...

He hasn't done anything wrong YET. He is having a moral dilemma and his little devil on the left shoulder is talking at the moment. That does not mean he won't do the right thing in the end.

We ALL agonize over moral dilemmas.

having the moral dilemma brings question to character. someone who is honest and respectable would make the choice before it was a choice. the fact that the OP is questioning if it is wrong to keep it says the thought passed through his mind. Thats the mind of a criminal.

I would think of keeping it, but you won't hear on the news of me robbing banks.

Then you're just a small time thief.

 

[tasmanian]

Op it sounds like you should tell them they have to have the tv picked up. If they refuse tell them thanks for the new tv.

 

[rudeguy]

Originally posted by: Mo0o


Well, them sending the item to his house means it's technically his property now, not the store's. I dont think there's any legitimate legal recourse on the company's part to FORCE him to return it.

Nope, but they sure as hell can bill him for it.

 

[Lifted]

Originally posted by: moshquerade
You work for the LAPD?

Why, do they laugh at idiots too?

 

[Mo0o]

Originally posted by: rudeguy

Originally posted by: Mo0o


Well, them sending the item to his house means it's technically his property now, not the store's. I dont think there's any legitimate legal recourse on the company's part to FORCE him to return it.

Nope, but they sure as hell can bill him for it.

Are you sure they can bill him for something he didn't order? Seems like a good scam, just mail TVs to everybody, refuse to have it picked up and just bill the person.

 

[silverpig]

It's unreasonable for them to expect you to haul it to a mailing depot. Tell them you are willing to return it, but they have to send someone out to pick it up. Put it back in the box, make it as good as you can, then tell them if no one comes to pick it up in 2 weeks you will be leaving it out on the street with their shipping label on it.

 

[theblackbox]

i wonder if posting this on ATOT is inline with criminal intent?

 

[moshquerade]

Originally posted by: Lifted

Originally posted by: moshquerade
You work for the LAPD?

Why, do they laugh at idiots too?

They may laugh at you, yes.

The reason I asked is you seem to think you know their reaction to a situation like this like you work there.

 

[Lifted]

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: Lifted

Originally posted by: moshquerade
You work for the LAPD?

Why, do they laugh at idiots too?

They may laugh at you, yes.

The reason I asked is you seem to think you know their reaction to a situation like this like you work there.

Now you're getting personal for no reason. I wasn't calling you or anyone else here names, was just going along with the silliness in this thread.

Cheers.

 

[mortong]

Originally posted by: silverpig
It's unreasonable for them to expect you to haul it to a mailing depot. Tell them you are willing to return it, but they have to send someone out to pick it up. Put it back in the box, make it as good as you can, then tell them if no one comes to pick it up in 2 weeks you will be leaving it out on the street with their shipping label on it.

It's already been mentioned here a few times, all he has to do is call UPS or Fedex to schedule a pickup after OP receives the pre-paid label.

Is he really so lazy that he can't be bothered to spend a few minutes on the phone?

 

[rudeguy]

Originally posted by: Mo0o

Originally posted by: rudeguy

Originally posted by: Mo0o


Well, them sending the item to his house means it's technically his property now, not the store's. I dont think there's any legitimate legal recourse on the company's part to FORCE him to return it.

Nope, but they sure as hell can bill him for it.

Are you sure they can bill him for something he didn't order? Seems like a good scam, just mail TVs to everybody, refuse to have it picked up and just bill the person.

He ordered a product and didn't receive what he ordered. They refunded his money since they didn't fulfill their end. Now he has a TV that was shipped to him in error. They have a log of him acknowledging that he did receive the TV and is refusing to pay for it.

The easiest thing for them to do is bill him for it. Depending on the company, they might get the local PD involved. While the police would not arrest the OP, they could turn over their report to the prosecutor who could easily charge him with fraud, theft or whatever laws they find that he broke. But this will probably just end up in a civil suit. The OP will have to either waste an extreme amount of time in court or have it hit his credit. Either way, it would be easier for him to just do the right thing now and not have to deal with all that hassle.

 

[ElFenix]

Originally posted by: RIGorous1

Besides, I want to keep the darn thing, so if theres some law that allows me too, why not?

there isn't

Originally posted by: Mo0o

Are you sure they can bill him for something he didn't order? Seems like a good scam, just mail TVs to everybody, refuse to have it picked up and just bill the person.

i don't know if they can bill him, but they can note his credit report, sue him, or call the cops on him.




OP needs to put the prepaid label on the box and tell UPS to come pick it up.

 

[Gooberlx2]

Originally posted by: mortong

Originally posted by: silverpig
It's unreasonable for them to expect you to haul it to a mailing depot. Tell them you are willing to return it, but they have to send someone out to pick it up. Put it back in the box, make it as good as you can, then tell them if no one comes to pick it up in 2 weeks you will be leaving it out on the street with their shipping label on it.

It's already been mentioned here a few times, all he has to do is call UPS or Fedex to schedule a pickup after OP receives the pre-paid label.

Is he really so lazy that he can't be bothered to spend a few minutes on the phone?

I thought pick-up services cost extra. I figured their pre-printed shipping labels wouldn't cover that.