Any iPhone user planning to skip the "iPhone 5" version ??

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Aikouka

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I find it odd to compare technology to food. I always assumed that people preferred less unnecessary change in their tech. For example, while the icon grid is simple, it works rather well for me, and unless something more efficient comes out, I don't want to see it change. If we look at Windows, it hasn't really changed for the most part GUI-wise. Hell, the largest change over the past few versions has to be the icon-based task bar. Why hasn't this changed (until Windows 8 that is :p)? ...because it works.

There are a few small aspects of Android that I wouldn't mind seeing in iOS, but it works well enough for me now.
 

Phynaz

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Do you have to troll every iphone thread? 250mb on twitter? LOL. Yes, that's how you use a smart phone.

Thankfully, people can use a smartphone however they want. Give it a rest and troll elsewhere.

This.

Thank you.
 

Ultrabook

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I'm def getting it. I think they said this was the last product Jobs worked for so I will buy it just out of respect.
 

Fingolfin269

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I thought I was going to read about the iPhone 5 but instead learned that since I'm not consuming at least 250mb a month (of carrier data only, not wifi) on twitter that I'm getting ripped off by my carrier. Best thread ever.
 
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i think the iPhone 5 will be where I laugh at iOS users for still jumping on board. My 6'1" friend says the 3.5" phone is just the right size when you can see his monster hands holding something too small. Put a SGS2 in his hands and it looked far better.

I have a friend with 8 HS friends and the 4 iPhone guys almost creamed in their pants after seeing the iOS 6 maps announcements. Meanwhile I was like -___________-. Welcome to Google Maps?

Anyway, I don't think a 4" screen will do the iPhone justice. They really had to go big with 4.3" here. I feel like 4" would've been ok if this round of phones were still 4.3". 4" would've been ok with last year's 4S announcement, but since they're late to the big screen game, at least up it to 4.3".
 

ponyo

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4" or 4.3" doesn't matter if it's still stuck on low resolution. I rather Apple keep it at 3.5" if they're not going to improve the resolution.
 
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No. That's improvement over current low res and acceptable. 960x640 is definitely not acceptable for 2013 phone.

it's not that big of a deal.... only with retina hype, yeah it needs to be adjusted, but honestly how small do you want your text anyway?

a bigger screen is more important than higher res. we've already established this when the sgs2 came out with its horrendously low resolution. i think we all survived.
 

MrX8503

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it's not that big of a deal.... only with retina hype, yeah it needs to be adjusted, but honestly how small do you want your text anyway?

Retina doesn't work that way.

Text size on the iPhone 1st gen is the same size as the iPhone 4. The same is true for iPad vs iPad 3 and MBP vs rMBP.

All graphical elements and text are the same size. Retina is for clarity, not screen real estate.
 

hanoverphist

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Hey, if you want to pay the same price as me, but use it as a WiFi enabled Mobile Internet Device, thats your business. I'm sure the carriers love you, free money for them.

My point was that smartphones use data, their apps use data, and that their best features use data. You may be in the vicinity of free wifi a lot, fine, use it. Security issues with that route are your concern, not mine.

Per your own words, I am not a 16 yr girl, but I can easily pull 250MBs on Twitter in a given month. I follow a lot of runners, athletes, nutritionists, and Android devs. Their tweets take up data, tweeted links, videos, pictures, etc take data. I am not using Twitter to tell the world when I'm sitting on the toilet, I'm using it to learn and improve my fitness.

i pay the same as you (well, my work does...) and i go through about 2-3gb a month. i stream audio, watch the occasional video and tether my laptop for work when needed. i found a long time ago that the wifi drains the battery much less than the 4G does, so i have it on wifi at work and home. i also have a few other places i go that have wifi available, so its set up there as well. its not that im feeling bad about using my plan, its an old unlimited plan still. just because you can, doesnt mean you should. words ive lived by for a long time. just because i can use unlimited data doesnt mean i should. especially when its so easy to turn a wifi radio on and have it see my regular haunts, and give the battery a bit of a break.

i also dont do twitter and all that crap, and i check my fb in the browser instead of the app. i do use it as a resource guide for troubleshooting for most of the day while im out in the field tho, and that takes up a bit of data. just because others dont fit what you think is the optimal use doesnt make them wrong, it makes you wrong for trying to fit everyone in your box.

I don't steam music while in the car . . . mostly because my car actually predates BlueTooth and all the other newfangled doodads. If I did have way to easily connect my phone to my car's speakers, odds are, I'd be listening to music and podcasts whenever I was around driving. But again, that'd all be mobile data, not WiFi.

I stand by my original statements. For your use, you should not be spending the same amount of money I am. For you, you'd save a lot of money going to a prepaid plan with a small data allowance or going to a feature phone. Don't be a jackass towards me because I actually use the my phone the way it was designed to be used. See my previous truck analogy.

my car is a 95 and has the original cassette player in it. no bluetooth, usb or aux plug in. i bought a memorex cassette adapter a long time ago and have been using it to connect my phone. sounds good and allows me to listen to both my stored music (for when im out of range), slacker or google music whenever i feel like. at least get into the late 90s in your car, the adapter is 14 bucks.
 

hanoverphist

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Truck analogy is actually perfect because the city dweller with the huge 4x4 diesel bought it as a status symbol. They don't need it, they have no practical use for it, but it shows that they have a lot of money to spend on things they don't need. Same as an individual who buys a smartphone and uses it like a MID.

im a city dweller and i own a big truck. when i go to work, i take my subaru. when i go out of town camping, i take my truck. also, when i go to job sites that arent accessible to regular cars, i take my truck. i also take my truck for drives to the desert, to different places for shooting trips and also just to look around. how can you be sure a city dweller has no valid reason for owning that truck? just because in your limited mind you would have no use for it? the analogy sucks.
 

ponyo

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it's not that big of a deal.... only with retina hype, yeah it needs to be adjusted, but honestly how small do you want your text anyway?

a bigger screen is more important than higher res. we've already established this when the sgs2 came out with its horrendously low resolution. i think we all survived.

SGS2 came out first half of 2011. iPhone5 is likely coming out towards the end of 2012. That's one and half years which is two generations in fast changing mobile space. Plus, SGS2 received the size bump for technical reason, not follow the leader reason. If iPhone5 was going to be low to mid tier phone priced $300 contract free, yes the low res would be acceptable. But we know iPhone5 is top of the line phone. Would it be acceptable if top tier Android phone came out end of this year sporting that low res? Everyone would laugh and it would be total sales failure. As it should be. 2 yr contract will take you into almost 2015 with 2010 res phone. If Apple wanted the same res but just screen size bump, they could have played follow the leader and followed with iPhone 4s back in late 2011. Doing it now would be total embarrassment and failure of epic proportion. I'm not talking sales wise but reputation as market leader and innovator.
 

annomander

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I reiterate, if you're barely using the smartphone, save yourself money and pick up a feature phone on a pre-paid plan. You'll cut your cell bill in half and the phone will last a week on a charge instead of a day.

I don't use much bandwidth, and the most important app is my email app. Yeah maybe should just get a feature, except a feature phone can't have iWHMCS apps, whm apps, pingdom apps, stuff to activate, bill and manage webhosting accounts out of the office like a iphone, does that mean I'm not a smart phone user as I'm not using much bandwidth even though I'm doing work with it instead of watching youtube and posting on twitter?
 
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SlitheryDee

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Hmm. That's something that I've wondered about for a while now. It's not really a flaw of the iphone at all. It's a unavoidable consequence of the iphone's relative domination of the smartphone market. People got used to being wowed by their phones when smartphones started getting popular. IOS and the iphones got incrementally better, but remained basically the same in form and function. Anyone, after having 2-3 iterations of the iphone in a row, will almost invariably crave that wow factor they got with their first iphone, and will only have android phones to turn to for it.

In my own case, I'm considering the iphone 5 as my first iphone. Coming from a relatively poor android phone that still amazed me at first, I'm hoping the newest iphone will be the novel experience that author is talking about for me.
 

Phokus

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Hmm. That's something that I've wondered about for a while now. It's not really a flaw of the iphone at all. It's a unavoidable consequence of the iphone's relative domination of the smartphone market. People got used to being wowed by their phones when smartphones started getting popular. IOS and the iphones got incrementally better, but remained basically the same in form and function. Anyone, after having 2-3 iterations of the iphone in a row, will almost invariably crave that wow factor they got with their first iphone, and will only have android phones to turn to for it.

In my own case, I'm considering the iphone 5 as my first iphone. Coming from a relatively poor android phone that still amazed me at first, I'm hoping the newest iphone will be the novel experience that author is talking about for me.

I don't think losing widgets, customization, choice of screen size etc. are going to wow you very much :p
 

Fingolfin269

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I don't think losing widgets, customization, choice of screen size etc. are going to wow you very much :p

Battery life, stability, and more polished apps wowed me. Granted I did move from the EVO to the iPhone, not exactly the best candidate for android battery life representation.
 

kaerflog

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I don't understand why Android fans that will never own an iPhone has to jump in here and make comments that has nothing to do with the topic.
Clearly there are posters in this thread that are not iPhone users.
 

notposting

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I will wait and if a new WP8 for Verizon comes out with a comparable camera, that's where I'm going. Otherwise I will probably try the new iPhone urgh. Or stick with my Trophy until it dies.
 

khha4113

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Didn't read the article fully. But once again, you're comparing a phone who's design was released 2 years ago to a phone which was just released a couple months ago.

I thought iPhone 4S just released last October (6 months before Galaxy S III to be exact)? Anyway, don't we compare the top of the line phones of both camps here?
 

ChAoTiCpInOy

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I thought iPhone 4S just released last October (6 months before Galaxy S III to be exact)? Anyway, don't we compare the top of the line phones of both camps here?

The iPhone 4S and iPhone 4 design are basically the same (except for the black bands around the stainless steel frame).