ok, you got me. I'll come out publically on ATOT.
I'm GAY and FRUITY! WOOOOOOT!! WOOOT! I LOVE RICHARD SIMMONS! SHAKE THAT SEXY BOOOTY.
I'm GAY and FRUITY! WOOOOOOT!! WOOOT! I LOVE RICHARD SIMMONS! SHAKE THAT SEXY BOOOTY.
GeekDrew
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I lived with a coworker/friend (and his wife) for a few months, and he later told me that he got several questions a day from different people, asking what it was like to be living with someone that was gay. He said that he felt like just typing up a stock response and handing it out.
According to him, it was exactly the same as living with any other human male. <shock, awe>:thumbsup:
I find more reason to hate it than love it, but meh.
They tend to plaster your face all over the place with anything they perceive as negative, and barely mention you if it's positive.
DainBramaged
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K1052
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Most people should already be well aware of Fred Phelps and his "church" which mostly consists of his family going around and cynically picketing the funerals of our war dead.
I usually don't want to cause people grevious bodily harm for what they say but he's pushing it.
hzl eyed grl
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Originally posted by: GeekDrew
I lived with a coworker/friend (and his wife) for a few months, and he later told me that he got several questions a day from different people, asking what it was like to be living with someone that was gay. He said that he felt like just typing up a stock response and handing it out.
I find more reason to hate it than love it, but meh.
I love you, my Gay Boyfriend! I got to live with you for like what....a week? He was just like any other guy. Well, okay not like any other guy. He was sweet, considerate, kind....he was a perfect gay boyfriend.
He took care of me after a major surgery and he's still my boyfriend even after I left my fiance! Platypus - :thumbsup:
:thumbsup:God loves gay people as much as He loves straight people, but He doesn't love any of them as much as I love Platypus. :heart:
Platypus
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Wow, thanks everyone for the kind words here and via PM, my inbox was literally flooded today. I'm glad me posting that meant as much to me as it did to those who took the time to reply to me. If what I said affected even one person in a positive way then it was all worth it to me
:beer:
:beer:
DainBramaged
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skyking
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Originally posted by: Platypus
Wow, thanks everyone for the kind words here and via PM, my inbox was literally flooded today. I'm glad me posting that meant as much to me as it did to those who took the time to reply to me. If what I said affected even one person in a positive way then it was all worth it to me
:beer:
your post was a gift to all of the forum. It came back to you as it should, many times over:thumbsup:
hzl eyed grl
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Ryan
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I remember when I first met you, right after I posted a similarly veined post on AT, and it always hurt me to see you struggle with this issue. I'm glad you've reached this point, I just wish I could make up for the cornerstone that you've been for me.
:thumbsup:
Originally posted by: skyking
Originally posted by: Platypus
Wow, thanks everyone for the kind words here and via PM, my inbox was literally flooded today. I'm glad me posting that meant as much to me as it did to those who took the time to reply to me. If what I said affected even one person in a positive way then it was all worth it to me
:beer:
your post was a gift to all of the forum. It came back to you as it should, many times over:thumbsup:
Yeah definatly.
That post was unbelievably touching.
the OP reminds me of all those xmen story arcs where the heroes are given the chance to take a pill and no longer be a mutant.
personally, I've known I was gay since before I knew what "gay" was. I didn't really know what the word for it was until I started listening to one of those late night call-in sex advice lines on the radio (Dr. Judy ftw) when I was in, like, 4th grade. I went through all the phases, from depressed teen to out-n-proud queen, eventually settling into something that feels like normal my current view on being gay is that it's no one's business except mine and the person I'm sleeping with's. I'm not in the closet, but I'm not exactly walking around introducing myself with "hello, my name is alan and I'm a gay american" haha (though I'll admitt, I'm closeted at work... mostly because I worry that my horribly funny yet politically incorrect coworkers would feel like they had to really watch what they said around me, and I'm not out to my parents, but that's probably a whole other thread. lol).
would my life be easier if I were straight? definitely... it really tears me up inside knowing that I could very well be the last generation of my family. amongst my dad's four brother's, one died in his 20's, one's a priest, and the other two are 40+ and still childless, showing no signs of ever intending to settle down. my grandfather's one brother had nothing but daughters (5 daughters at that :Q). but with all that said, being gay is as much a part of me as my green eyes or one of my birthmarks... I like who I am, for the most part, and couldn't imagine ever changing something so basic about myself.
personally, I've known I was gay since before I knew what "gay" was. I didn't really know what the word for it was until I started listening to one of those late night call-in sex advice lines on the radio (Dr. Judy ftw
) when I was in, like, 4th grade. I went through all the phases, from depressed teen to out-n-proud queen, eventually settling into something that feels like normal my current view on being gay is that it's no one's business except mine and the person I'm sleeping with's. I'm not in the closet, but I'm not exactly walking around introducing myself with "hello, my name is alan and I'm a gay american" haha (though I'll admitt, I'm closeted at work... mostly because I worry that my horribly funny yet politically incorrect coworkers would feel like they had to really watch what they said around me, and I'm not out to my parents, but that's probably a whole other thread. lol).would my life be easier if I were straight? definitely... it really tears me up inside knowing that I could very well be the last generation of my family. amongst my dad's four brother's, one died in his 20's, one's a priest, and the other two are 40+ and still childless, showing no signs of ever intending to settle down. my grandfather's one brother had nothing but daughters (5 daughters at that :Q). but with all that said, being gay is as much a part of me as my green eyes or one of my birthmarks... I like who I am, for the most part, and couldn't imagine ever changing something so basic about myself.
I think my guinea pig is sometimes.... he likes to climb on top of another male guinea pig and nibble at his ears... those two are quite interesting pairs.. and then they cuddle afterwards...
uberman
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Please move beyond the concrete operational stage and try to think in the abstract.
I posted that because they were showing how ridiculous those bigots are.
Concrete Operational Stage
That was a very ignorant first statement moshquerade
You are not "born" gay. It is a lifestyle choice.
There have been people that choose to be gay, and then turned and choose to be straight.
You are not born gay. You cannot be born gay.. That is probably one of the most craziest things I have heard in awhile.
God did NOT intend for there to be homosexuals. If he did, he would of created adam and steve, not adam and eve.
MAN AND A WOMAN, NOT MAN AND MAN, or WOMAN AND WOMAN.
moshquerade
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Who are YOU to call me ignorant? It is very au contraire.
Adam and Steve, did you make that up? No. Someone fed that to you.
Possibly one of the dumbest and most uneducated comments I've seen here in a long time. You really need to do some more research on the behavior of animals before making ridiculous statements, based solely on your bigotry towards gays.
Animals mount other animals as a sign of dominance and it has very little to do with sexual preferences. To a dog, the presence of another dog, means that it either takes on the role of passive or dominant. The passive dog will lay on its back, showing submission. The dominant dog will stand over the passive dog or attempt to mount it from behind. The gender of the passive dog is completely irrelevant and in no way suggests that the dominant dog is gay.
Thanks for the laugh though.
That tickled me if you were being serious.
So which is it? Is God perfect and omniscient, or does he make human mistakes (no pun intended)? Pick one...lol.
One of my closest friends is gay and over the years we have talked about it in depth, and this very point has come up.
He did have a rough time growing up. Being in an all-male college with many wealthy and narrow minded students was exceedingly difficult. He once opened up to a group of friends who he trusted, and fearing being associated with 'a gayer' they all had a laugh and ditched him as a friend. This rumour of course spread about the college like wildfire (even by guys who later on themselves turned out to be gay).
We became friends soon after, and it was a real struggle for him to come out to us with what had previously happened to him. We all knew he was gay (saw the favourites on his PC), but wanted to leave him to make the move and say it.
He is now out, and isn't camp nor a fan of wearing pink. In fact, you'd not be able to tell he was gay, apart from that he goes home with fellers on a night out if he gets lucky. Upon asking him if he would change it if he could, his answer was a resounding no. He hates kids for a start, so that's a non-issue. Secondly, he sees what straight fellers have to go through with women: picking them up, all the dating, PMS etc etc. He recons it's a lot easier to cut the crap and get down to action with a feller than a woman. Fair play, I say. He dislikes super-camp fair-gays with a passion and goes for other straight-acting guys, pretty much. He does eventually want to settle down and have a civil arrangement (marriage), just like a straight guy.
It was tough on his parents as he's an only child, which was another hurdle, but they seem sound about it as far as I can tell. He feels it a nature thing, as from the first day he knew what being sexually excited by somone was, he knew he was gay. He had no "am I, aren't I?" period.
Well, that's all I know really. It's his birthday tonight and we're going for beers, so if there's anything you want me to ask him, let me know!
He did have a rough time growing up. Being in an all-male college with many wealthy and narrow minded students was exceedingly difficult. He once opened up to a group of friends who he trusted, and fearing being associated with 'a gayer' they all had a laugh and ditched him as a friend. This rumour of course spread about the college like wildfire (even by guys who later on themselves turned out to be gay).
We became friends soon after, and it was a real struggle for him to come out to us with what had previously happened to him. We all knew he was gay (saw the favourites on his PC), but wanted to leave him to make the move and say it.
He is now out, and isn't camp nor a fan of wearing pink. In fact, you'd not be able to tell he was gay, apart from that he goes home with fellers on a night out if he gets lucky. Upon asking him if he would change it if he could, his answer was a resounding no. He hates kids for a start, so that's a non-issue. Secondly, he sees what straight fellers have to go through with women: picking them up, all the dating, PMS etc etc. He recons it's a lot easier to cut the crap and get down to action with a feller than a woman. Fair play, I say. He dislikes super-camp fair-gays with a passion and goes for other straight-acting guys, pretty much. He does eventually want to settle down and have a civil arrangement (marriage), just like a straight guy.
It was tough on his parents as he's an only child, which was another hurdle, but they seem sound about it as far as I can tell. He feels it a nature thing, as from the first day he knew what being sexually excited by somone was, he knew he was gay. He had no "am I, aren't I?" period.
Well, that's all I know really. It's his birthday tonight and we're going for beers, so if there's anything you want me to ask him, let me know!
MmmSkyscraper
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It's my understanding that Bagemihl disproved that.
From a Salon article
"Some homosexual animals have one-night stands and some have long marriages. Gay and lesbian geese stay together year after year. Bottlenose dolphins don't form male-female couples, but males often form lifelong pairs with other males. Some are interested only in males, but others are bisexual and happily indulge in beak-genital propulsion and more with male or female alike.
Male black swans court and form stable pairs. With two males, they are able to defend huge territories from other swan couples, which sounds like a double-income-no-kids situation except that they often manage to wangle some eggs from somewhere -- all right, they steal them -- and become model parents, twice as successful as straight parents.
"
"As Bagemihl says of this widely expressed idea, "What is remarkable about the entire debate about the naturalness of homosexuality is the frequent absence of any reference to concrete facts or accurate, comprehensive information about animal homosexuality."
There's no longer any excuse. At more than 750 pages of profusely illustrated, carefully referenced information, this is the ideal book to slam down on the fingers of anyone who says homosexuality isn't natural.
"
Of course, this assumes that there exist animals other than your dog.
Not everyone. But a good majority of people are not 100% one way or the other.
The word bi-sexual brings to mind 50/50. That's not true.
Some are 80/20, some are 60/40. Some are 99/1.
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