Any 16 yr olds own a 02 Mustang GT ?

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Mill

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Originally posted by: shady06
Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: shady06
Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: shady06
Originally posted by: Mwilding
Originally posted by: shady06
Originally posted by: Mwilding
There are more 16 years olds with Mustangs than there are 17 year olds with Mustangs...

how do u know this?
because few of them make it to their 17th birthday...

ROFLMAO

btw, get an 02 or 03 maxima SE. its faster than your POS mustang, more reliable, and insurance is cheaper

Faster? HAHAHAHA you're an idiot.

yes faster

In what?

hold up, lookin at up....

No need to look because you are wrong. Maximas with a good driver average mid to high 14's. Some have pulled a few 14.3's but that is very rare. Stock Mustang GT's run 14.0-14.2 and most good manual drivers pull high 13's. here's a link
 

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Originally posted by: RaiseUp
02 or 03 maxima SE has less hp, 04 maxima has more than the stang.

Wow... I'm not even going to respond to the brilliant "more HP" argument.
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Come back when you get a clue about cars bud.
 
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mill,

02 mustang v8 1/4 mile 14.7
02 maxima se 1/4 14.9
i'm almost sure the 2003 se was 14.7 but i cant find the link

ok, so not faster, but equal. also, keep in mind that it is very difficult to run the mustang that fast cuz its a stick so u have to get the timings down like a pro as where with the maxima you just push the pedal
 
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Originally posted by: TommyVercetti
Originally posted by: shady06
Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: shady06
no, lets not turn it into that but i know 3 people with mustangs and all of them had put a serious amount of $ into them for repair

Repair what? What year car? What trim?

2001, 2001, 2000

2 of them had cracked headers, not sure what the third one was

Dude they weren't getting them replaced because they were broken, they were doing it for improved performance. See, Microsoft logic can apply to cars too.

dude, the headers were CRACKED
 

Mill

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Originally posted by: shady06
Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: shady06
no, lets not turn it into that but i know 3 people with mustangs and all of them had put a serious amount of $ into them for repair

Repair what? What year car? What trim?

2001, 2001, 2000

2 of them had cracked headers, not sure what the third one was

Cracked headers? I've followed the Corral, Stangnet, and other forums for years, and there has NEVER been a report of cracked header on a Mustang unless it was modded. I call complete and total BS.
 

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I got a used BMW Z3 when I turned 17. I paid for 90% of it though, my parents helped me with the rest. Got a really nice deal.
 
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Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: shady06
Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: shady06
no, lets not turn it into that but i know 3 people with mustangs and all of them had put a serious amount of $ into them for repair

Repair what? What year car? What trim?

2001, 2001, 2000

2 of them had cracked headers, not sure what the third one was

Cracked headers? I've followed the Corral, Stangnet, and other forums for years, and there has NEVER been a report of cracked header on a Mustang unless it was modded. I call complete and total BS.

you can call bs if youd like, but thats what happened
 

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For a 16 year old to insure an '02 Mustang GT is going to be absolutely insane.

Get something a little slower, a little cheaper, a little less flashy for now, there is a higher chance of wrecking your first car so don't spend a lot of dough on it. Once you're 21 or so and your rates start falling you can buy something faster/better and go race it. For now, unless your parents buy you everything, your bank account is more important than your 1/4 mile time...

Unless your daddy is paying your insurance bill heheheh
 

Mill

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Originally posted by: shady06
mill,

02 mustang v8 1/4 mile 14.7
02 maxima se 1/4 14.9
i'm almost sure the 2003 se was 14.7 but i cant find the link

ok, so not faster, but equal. also, keep in mind that it is very difficult to run the mustang that fast cuz its a stick so u have to get the timings down like a pro as where with the maxima you just push the pedal

Uh....do I even have to respond to that? That's the most convoluted and inaccurate statement I've heard on the net. You've never been to a track before have you? You don't just press the pedal and go because you STILL get wheelspin regardless of transmission. EVERYONE has to get their 60ft times down, and it's certainly easier to get a good 60ft on a stock mustang with a manual vs an auto. Now take a lentech with a nice stall and transbrake and you have no comparison, or even a decently stock 4r70w with a stall and decent tires and you can hook up. A stock auto in either car will have wheelspin and a crappy 60ft. With the smaller amount of torque the Maxima has it will obviously be easier to bog. BTW, the Maxima does come in 6spd and the GT has an auto trans available as well.

I ran a 14.03 in my Stock automatic. I've never seen a 99-03 GT go slower than 14.2-14.3 unless it was the driver or traction limited. The Mustang is very very very clearly the faster car. I'm not sure who the hell jbautos is, but you can check the actual timeslips I posted from Maxima forums and compare it to ones on the corral.
 

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Originally posted by: rival
my gf pays $2400/yr for an '02 mustang, not gt, shes 19

V6+female>V8+male in the insurance company's eyes. Apples to oranges. A V6 Mustang is viewed more or less as a "normal" car by the ins. co. whereas a 16 yo guy driving a V8 Stang is gonna get raped on insurance.

I agree, this is a very poor vehicle choice for a 16 year old. I wanted an older Trans Am (like the one I have now)when I was 16, but my parents (wisely) said no way. I got a rusted out 85 Century instead. I was pissed at the time, (I was going to buy the car myself, not them) but I see now why they said no. I would have wrecked it for sure, especially when winter hit.

This will probably make many on this board angry ;) but don't get an Accord or Prelude or Integra, etc. either. The insurance is high on these cars because of their ridiculous theft rate. You don't want one of the cars the thieves specifically look for.

*EDIT: took out LA as location - previous post on thread threw me. I looked at the pic and am assuming he's in Il. The auto theft argument still stands though ;)
 
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Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: shady06
mill,

02 mustang v8 1/4 mile 14.7
02 maxima se 1/4 14.9
i'm almost sure the 2003 se was 14.7 but i cant find the link

ok, so not faster, but equal. also, keep in mind that it is very difficult to run the mustang that fast cuz its a stick so u have to get the timings down like a pro as where with the maxima you just push the pedal

Uh....do I even have to respond to that? That's the most convoluted and inaccurate statement I've heard on the net. You've never been to a track before have you? You don't just press the pedal and go because you STILL get wheelspin regardless of transmission. EVERYONE has to get their 60ft times down, and it's certainly easier to get a good 60ft on a stock mustang with a manual vs an auto. Now take a lentech with a nice stall and transbrake and you have no comparison, or even a decently stock 4r70w with a stall and decent tires and you can hook up. A stock auto in either car will have wheelspin and a crappy 60ft. With the smaller amount of torque the Maxima has it will obviously be easier to bog. BTW, the Maxima does come in 6spd and the GT has an auto trans available as well.I ran a 14.03 in my Stock automatic. I've never seen a 99-03 GT go slower than 14.2-14.3 unless it was the driver or traction limited. The Mustang is very very very clearly the faster car. I'm not sure who the hell jbautos is, but you can check the actual timeslips I posted from Maxima forums and compare it to ones on the corral.




yes you are correct, i was exaggerating when i said push the pedal but surely you'll agree that its more difficult running a stick @ a certain speed than it is an automatic esp for a new driver.

anyway, considering gas millage and insurance, it seems to me the maxima is a better buy and please dont take this as me ragging on the mustang cuz i'm not
 

Mill

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Originally posted by: shady06
Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: shady06
Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: shady06
no, lets not turn it into that but i know 3 people with mustangs and all of them had put a serious amount of $ into them for repair

Repair what? What year car? What trim?

2001, 2001, 2000

2 of them had cracked headers, not sure what the third one was

Cracked headers? I've followed the Corral, Stangnet, and other forums for years, and there has NEVER been a report of cracked header on a Mustang unless it was modded. I call complete and total BS.

you can call bs if youd like, but thats what happened

Well, I know of over 200 Mustang drivers offhand that have never had a cracked header, and there are about 20k more on the corral. So the statistical probability of you knowing 2 people out of 3 with cracked headers, is about the same probability of me having an orgy with Britney Spears, President Reagan, the Pope, and Marilyn Monroe. To put that is perspective, that means it isn't probable that you're telling the truth. Do you even know how a header would get cracked? Do you know what a header is?

 
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Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: shady06
Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: shady06
Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: shady06
no, lets not turn it into that but i know 3 people with mustangs and all of them had put a serious amount of $ into them for repair

Repair what? What year car? What trim?

2001, 2001, 2000

2 of them had cracked headers, not sure what the third one was

Cracked headers? I've followed the Corral, Stangnet, and other forums for years, and there has NEVER been a report of cracked header on a Mustang unless it was modded. I call complete and total BS.

you can call bs if youd like, but thats what happened

Well, I know of over 200 Mustang drivers offhand that have never had a cracked header, and there are about 20k more on the corral. So the statistical probability of you knowing 2 people out of 3 with cracked headers, is about the same probability of me having an orgy with Britney Spears, President Reagan, the Pope, and Marilyn Monroe. To put that is perspective, that means it isn't probable that you're telling the truth. Do you even know how a header would get cracked? Do you know what a header is?

i'm not a car buff, i know what a header is, i dont know how you crack it. anyway, millage has something to do with it too i assume. you could go on and on and draw your analogies, but i dont really care. going with your logic i would be lying about my godfather dying from a brain tumor cuz only 1 in 100000 people die from it....
 

Mill

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Originally posted by: shady06
Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: shady06
mill,

02 mustang v8 1/4 mile 14.7
02 maxima se 1/4 14.9
i'm almost sure the 2003 se was 14.7 but i cant find the link

ok, so not faster, but equal. also, keep in mind that it is very difficult to run the mustang that fast cuz its a stick so u have to get the timings down like a pro as where with the maxima you just push the pedal

Uh....do I even have to respond to that? That's the most convoluted and inaccurate statement I've heard on the net. You've never been to a track before have you? You don't just press the pedal and go because you STILL get wheelspin regardless of transmission. EVERYONE has to get their 60ft times down, and it's certainly easier to get a good 60ft on a stock mustang with a manual vs an auto. Now take a lentech with a nice stall and transbrake and you have no comparison, or even a decently stock 4r70w with a stall and decent tires and you can hook up. A stock auto in either car will have wheelspin and a crappy 60ft. With the smaller amount of torque the Maxima has it will obviously be easier to bog. BTW, the Maxima does come in 6spd and the GT has an auto trans available as well.I ran a 14.03 in my Stock automatic. I've never seen a 99-03 GT go slower than 14.2-14.3 unless it was the driver or traction limited. The Mustang is very very very clearly the faster car. I'm not sure who the hell jbautos is, but you can check the actual timeslips I posted from Maxima forums and compare it to ones on the corral.




yes you are correct, i was exaggerating when i said push the pedal but surely you'll agree that its more difficult running a stick @ a certain speed than it is an automatic esp for a new driver.

anyway, considering gas millage and insurance, it seems to me the maxima is a better buy and please dont take this as me ragging on the mustang cuz i'm not

No, actually, I won't agree. Most people with a manual have mastered some form of being able to take off from a stop without spinning, b ut most people in an Auto never give it enough gas to lose traction unless they ARE trying to race someone. Here is how I would explain it to you. An auto takes much more skill to get a good 60ft and a good 1/4 mile pass than it does for a manual. Some might disagree with me, but we are talking STOCK auto trannys here. You are going to fight not bogging out or spinning and you CANNOT stall it above the stock convertor. With a manual you can find that "sweet" RPM spot, and if the track is consistently prepped good you will be able to launch from that RPM all night long. I can tell you from experience that it SUCKS launching at 1800 RPM. Compare that to a manual to where you can launch at whatever you want.
 
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Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: shady06
Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: shady06
mill,

02 mustang v8 1/4 mile 14.7
02 maxima se 1/4 14.9
i'm almost sure the 2003 se was 14.7 but i cant find the link

ok, so not faster, but equal. also, keep in mind that it is very difficult to run the mustang that fast cuz its a stick so u have to get the timings down like a pro as where with the maxima you just push the pedal

Uh....do I even have to respond to that? That's the most convoluted and inaccurate statement I've heard on the net. You've never been to a track before have you? You don't just press the pedal and go because you STILL get wheelspin regardless of transmission. EVERYONE has to get their 60ft times down, and it's certainly easier to get a good 60ft on a stock mustang with a manual vs an auto. Now take a lentech with a nice stall and transbrake and you have no comparison, or even a decently stock 4r70w with a stall and decent tires and you can hook up. A stock auto in either car will have wheelspin and a crappy 60ft. With the smaller amount of torque the Maxima has it will obviously be easier to bog. BTW, the Maxima does come in 6spd and the GT has an auto trans available as well.I ran a 14.03 in my Stock automatic. I've never seen a 99-03 GT go slower than 14.2-14.3 unless it was the driver or traction limited. The Mustang is very very very clearly the faster car. I'm not sure who the hell jbautos is, but you can check the actual timeslips I posted from Maxima forums and compare it to ones on the corral.




yes you are correct, i was exaggerating when i said push the pedal but surely you'll agree that its more difficult running a stick @ a certain speed than it is an automatic esp for a new driver.

anyway, considering gas millage and insurance, it seems to me the maxima is a better buy and please dont take this as me ragging on the mustang cuz i'm not

No, actually, I won't agree. Most people with a manual have mastered some form of being able to take off from a stop without spinning, b ut most people in an Auto never give it enough gas to lose traction unless they ARE trying to race someone. Here is how I would explain it to you. An auto takes much more skill to get a good 60ft and a good 1/4 mile pass than it does for a manual. Some might disagree with me, but we are talking STOCK auto trannys here. You are going to fight not bogging out or spinning and you CANNOT stall it above the stock convertor. With a manual you can find that "sweet" RPM spot, and if the track is consistently prepped good you will be able to launch from that RPM all night long. I can tell you from experience that it SUCKS launching at 1800 RPM. Compare that to a manual to where you can launch at whatever you want.



we are talking about a new driver here
 

Mill

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Originally posted by: shady06
Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: shady06
Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: shady06
Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: shady06
no, lets not turn it into that but i know 3 people with mustangs and all of them had put a serious amount of $ into them for repair

Repair what? What year car? What trim?

2001, 2001, 2000

2 of them had cracked headers, not sure what the third one was

Cracked headers? I've followed the Corral, Stangnet, and other forums for years, and there has NEVER been a report of cracked header on a Mustang unless it was modded. I call complete and total BS.

you can call bs if youd like, but thats what happened

Well, I know of over 200 Mustang drivers offhand that have never had a cracked header, and there are about 20k more on the corral. So the statistical probability of you knowing 2 people out of 3 with cracked headers, is about the same probability of me having an orgy with Britney Spears, President Reagan, the Pope, and Marilyn Monroe. To put that is perspective, that means it isn't probable that you're telling the truth. Do you even know how a header would get cracked? Do you know what a header is?

i'm not a car buff, i know what a header is, i dont know how you crack it. anyway, millage has something to do with it too i assume. you could go on and on and draw your analogies, but i dont really care. going with your logic i would be lying about my godfather dying from a brain tumor cuz only 1 in 100000 people die from it....

Wrong again. Mileage would have very little to do with a cracked header on a car that is that new or period really. The only way a header like that would crack is if there was a defect in the header to begin with. Well, if that was the case then we would be hearing of 100's of Mustangs with cracked headers, but alas we are only hearing about YOUR two friends, and that information cannot be validated at all. Even if there was a defect in the header, it would have been noticed and the headers would have been replaced on all those cars before they were sold. This isn't an internal part that takes wear and tear to notice. A header with a crack is going to leak exhaust and the engine sound is going to very obviously display an exhaust leak.

Whatever, it's obvious you know way more abouts cars than I do.