You don't get it, so I'm not going to waste anymore of my night after this post to explain it to you. Regardless of the skill level of the driver, you cannot stall higher than about 1800 RPM on the 4r70w mustang gt unless you replace the torque convertor. Because of that limitation, it is much harder to feather the gas coming out of the hole and not spin or bog(if you don't give enough gas). With a manual you have the benefit of adjusting your holeshot right out the box and being able to stick with a consistent RPM. 1800 is way to low to get a good launch, so you end up stalling it up and then feathering the gas until you hook up. With a manual you are going to be able to find the RPM ranges that gives you traction and get out of the hole. I'm not saying you'll never spin or bog, because you will, but your chances are reduced compared to a stock 4r70w. I'm a huge fan of good racing auto trannys or a modded auto tranny, but stockwise they aren't going to provide the holeshot or track times that you think. The skill level is actually HARDER.
You don't get it, so I'm not going to waste anymore of my night after this post to explain it to you. Regardless of the skill level of the driver, you cannot stall higher than about 1800 RPM on the 4r70w mustang gt unless you replace the torque convertor. Because of that limitation, it is much harder to feather the gas coming out of the hole and not spin or bog(if you don't give enough gas). With a manual you have the benefit of adjusting your holeshot right out the box and being able to stick with a consistent RPM. 1800 is way to low to get a good launch, so you end up stalling it up and then feathering the gas until you hook up. With a manual you are going to be able to find the RPM ranges that gives you traction and get out of the hole. I'm not saying you'll never spin or bog, because you will, but your chances are reduced compared to a stock 4r70w. I'm a huge fan of good racing auto trannys or a modded auto tranny, but stockwise they aren't going to provide the holeshot or track times that you think. The skill level is actually HARDER.
I feel like NFS4, but the 03 3.5SE received a 15.0 in Road and Track. They don't have times listed for the Mustang, but I know for a fact that I personally went 14.03 stock, and that most 99-03 GT's average anywhere from 13.8x to 14.3x.
That's the facts.
That's the facts.
i made it clear i'm not a car buff and i never said i knew more than you.
obviously i have learned the maxima is not faster, but it is quite competitive. so if .5 seconds is worth worse gas millage and more $$$ for insurance than by all means buy the mustang, to me, it simply isnt worth it so a maxima is a better buy for ME
0-60 does mean something, because the Maxima doesn't have any forced induction to make up the difference, plus it has significantly less torque.
arent there some cars that have slower 0-60 compared to another particular car, but still win the 1/4 mile?
It's more than 0.5 seconds gap in 1/4 time, but it's not just that the Mustang is faster. It's a two door, looks better, and has a much much much much much much much much much larger aftermarket available.
*Que* Forced Induction or gearing. I guess you could short gear a car to where it couldn't get a decent trap speed, or you could make it have such tall gearing that it would take forever to get down the track...
Of course traction is a huge issue as well, and I've never seen anyone puts slicks or drag radials on a Maxima either.
And you don't think there's just a slight correlation between 0-60 time and 1/4 mile time? Something along the lines of 99%?
i know there is a correlation, but like i said, once in a while you'll find a car that is slower 0-60 and actually wins the 1/4 mile. (on a side note i was reading an old issue of car and driver and there were several instance where a car is faster 0-60 and slower 0-100), so what not just at 1/4 to begin with?
A 16 year old driving a Mustang GT? Dude.. you start off with slow cars then when you learn how to drive you advance to something better.
It's like a guy learning to ride motorcycles starting off with a freakin' hayabusa or something like that.
It's like a guy learning to ride motorcycles starting off with a freakin' hayabusa or something like that.
You're the one who got raped, for sure. Why the hell were you paying 2x the value of your old POS per year? I never, ever paid that high insurance, for my old beaters it was more like $280 a year. Even with the 2003 protege I'm not
paying $280 a month. No offense but your post smells of BS.
WTF!!!
Seriously, wtf do you guys live that you're getting raped like that? WHen I bought my first car, a POS '88 Shadow, I was paying $400 CANADIAN a year for liability..
Now I'm not a big fan of domestic cars or Millennium... but jesus christ shady06, just stop posting. You're giving Nissan fanboys here a bad name. Your unwillingness to admit that you were wrong shows how ignorant you are.
Maybe you should have stopped posting after being proven that the Mustang is faster than the Maxima instead of dragging the thread on. Good job, buddy.
nice try at trying to cover your tracks, you say i'm unwilling to admit i'm wrong, i say i did admit it, you go on to another statment....
little advice: stay away from law, i can just see "i rest my case" after an objection has been overruled
You said the Maxima is faster
you were pwned
you said Maxima was equal
you were pwned
you admit maxima is faster
you talk about how you don't know much about cars
Also, between this points, you bring in other reasons why the maxima is the "better car"
later, you all of a sudden say that the maxima is a good car for "you"
Well, son, this thread wasn't about YOU, was it? No, you don't know anything about cars but still decided to bring your flawed arguments into this thread.
you're an idiot.little advice: stay away from law, i can just see "i rest my case" after an objection has been overruled
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