Antilles dual card packs two Caymans

[happy medium]

could be one fast card if true.

http://www.fudzilla.com/graphics/item/20751-antilles-dual-card-packs-two-caymans

 

[spinejam]

looks promising!

 

[GaiaHunter]

I'm not sure why people would doubt that Antilles would be 2 Cayman.

Because of the <300W slides for Cayman?

That just means the GPU will fit in the PCI-E envelope, which isn't surprising.

If you guys remember the first 6870 slides also said <225W or <250W, not sure which, and ended much lower.

Those figures seems to be just an indicator of maximum power connectors it will have.

 

[MrK6]

My guess is the 6970 is a 6-pin + 8-pin and the 6950 is a 6-pin + a 6-pin. Antilles will be some mix between the two chips (much like the 5xxx series) to get power <300W.

 

[betasub]

<225W should only require 6-pin + 6-pin. Unless the 8-pin is there for flagship card overclocking?

 

[MrK6]

<225W should only require 6-pin + 6-pin. Unless the 8-pin is there for flagship card overclocking?

That's what I would hope. Unless the 6970 has a TDP <200W, I'd like to see an 8-pin on it.

 

[Arkadrel]

6870 x2 *could* be made in 1 card and stay under 300watts limit for PCIe certifications.

now 6870x2 (crossfire) is faster than 470x2 (SLI).

That would make it a buttload faster than a singel 580 (like 30-40&#37; faster or something).... however 2x barts are probably slower than useing 2x Cayman chips.

I think its safe to assume that the 6990 will be the fastest singel card on the market, when its launched.

 

[ModestGamer]

I think AMD intends to crush nvidia single card performance. I expect to see dual down clocked cayman with easy to overclock features. Hell they may not even care about the pci-e spec and just call it what it will be, the most rediculous single card on the market.

 

[MrK6]

I think AMD intends to crush nvidia single card performance. I expect to see dual down clocked cayman with easy to overclock features. Hell they may not even care about the pci-e spec and just call it what it will be, the most rediculous single card on the market.

I don't know the details of it all, but I think it would be incredibly difficult to sell an official/non-AIB-designed part that isn't PCIe certifiable. At least there hasn't been a precedent (I don't think).

 

[OCGuy]

I think AMD intends to crush nvidia single card performance. I expect to see dual down clocked cayman with easy to overclock features. Hell they may not even care about the pci-e spec and just call it what it will be, the most rediculous single card on the market.

.... ?

Wouldn't that throw out all the power consumption faux-outrage that the Zoners have been spouting?

 

[ModestGamer]

.... ?

Wouldn't that throw out all the power consumption faux-outrage that the Zoners have been spouting?

so, who cares its a part made for people who need the most badass solution on the market. who cares about the pcie spec. I certainly don't give a crap and I doubt anyone with the money or ambition to own one either. or they down clock it with a wink and a nod to get it in the evelope.

 

[Silverforce11]

You can sell an underclocked 2x Cayman that has TDP ~300W, its officially within standards. It's already fast, but because such cards are often marketed at enthusiasts, just add in extra beefy VRMs and cooling so they *know* it can be overclocked to crazy levels at the cost of extra TDP. Kinda like the 5970 currently, overclocked it goes well over 300W, and its not a problem.

 

[happy medium]

You can sell an underclocked 2x Cayman that has TDP ~300W, its officially within standards. It's already fast, but because such cards are often marketed at enthusiasts, just add in extra beefy VRMs and cooling so they *know* it can be overclocked to crazy levels at the cost of extra TDP. Kinda like the 5970 currently, overclocked it goes well over 300W, and its not a problem.

Hope it has 2, 8 pin connectors.

 

[Skurge]

There are 400W GTX480s that don't need 2x 8pin.

 

[SlowSpyder]

.... ?

Wouldn't that throw out all the power consumption faux-outrage that the Zoners have been spouting?

I think most people here aren't upset with high power use, but in the case of the GTX480, are upset at high power use realitive to it's performance. If the GTX480 was faster than a 5970 I doubt anyone would have cared about the power use.

 

[OCGuy]

I think most people here aren't upset with high power use, but in the case of the GTX480, are upset at high power use realitive to it's performance. If the GTX480 was faster than a 5970 I doubt anyone would have cared about the power use.

I think the price difference + single GPU should negate any performance issues between the two.

 

[happy medium]

I think the price difference + single GPU should negate any performance issues between the two.

Funny the next wave of cards (GTX580/ 6970) are gonna be sucking some big power 225 watts+. Can't wait to see all the people who said there not paying for the higher electric bills and these space heaters now.

SOmething tells me this kind of power and heat will be acceptable now that AMD is about = to Fermi.

Will the real fanboys please stand up.

 

[Gloomy]

SOmething tells me this kind of power and heat will be acceptable now that AMD is about = to Fermi.

That's not really fair. It's one thing to hate something when there's an alternative, and another completely different thing when there isn't an alternative.

Namely, in the first instance, you can do something, and in the second, you're just flapping your lips.

 

[happy medium]

That's not really fair. It's one thing to hate something when there's an alternative, and another completely different thing when there isn't an alternative.

Namely, in the first instance, you can do something, and in the second, you're just flapping your lips.

Wait so if you have a faster card gtx480 , you choose the slower one because of the gtx uses too much power/heat.

Now we have cards at equal performance and they are just as hot/power hungry, but its ok now?

It's either hot and power hungry or its not.:whiste:

 

[Gloomy]

Wait so if you have a faster card gtx480 , you choose the slower one because of the gtx uses too much power/heat.

Now we have cards at equal performance and they are just as hot/power hungry, but its ok now?

It's either hot and power hungry or its not.:whiste:

I never said I wanted anything.

 

[happy medium]

"you" as in the customer.

 

[SlowSpyder]

I think the price difference + single GPU should negate any performance issues between the two.

Are we still talking about just power use or are talking about everything a GTX480 brings to the table vs. everything the 5970 brings?

Both certainly have their pros and their cons.

Maybe you probably think I'm just being a 'zoner', but I really think many people expected more out of the 480... it came later and used more power than AMD's fastest card, all while being slower. But as you say, it's cheaper and does not come with any of the bugs that multi-GPU set ups tend to have.

We could always talk about the Nzoner's faux outrage over multi-GPU parts that only surfaced this last generation... when AMD has the only high end multi-GPU card and it's faster than Nvidia's fastest single GPU.

 

[Dark Shroud]

With the Crossfire performance of the 6800 cards I'd expect the 6990 to have amazing performance. Just from proper scaleing of the duel GPUs and hopefully 4gigs of memory (2 x 2GB).

 

[happy medium]

With the Crossfire performance of the 6800 cards I'd expect the 6990 to have amazing performance. Just from proper scaleing of the duel GPUs and hopefully 4gigs of memory (2 x 2GB).

agreed, it better have 2x2gb.

 

[SlowSpyder]

Wait so if you have a faster card gtx480 , you choose the slower one because of the gtx uses too much power/heat.

Now we have cards at equal performance and they are just as hot/power hungry, but its ok now?

It's either hot and power hungry or its not.:whiste:

I think that depends on the price.

Also, we're assuming a LOT thinking that Cayman will use as much power as a GTX580. We know AMD is planning on a dual GPU card, that will likely be our 300 watt part. I am willing to bet that Cayman is much closer to 225 watts TDP.