Anti-Gun nutters arrest student for NRA tee shirt

[Zargon]

Yes, thus the last two sentences in my original post. It's NOT why he was arrested, though there is a valid question as to why he was approached in the first place.

yeah so it is and isnt why he was arrested


I guess its OK for adults in a position of power to try and bully a kid into doing what they want

then calling the cops when he gets mouthy and non-compliant to their baseless requests and power abuse


yeah that sounds like most HS administration Ive ran into

 

[monovillage]

Are you sure your view of this wouldn't be different if he was a Muslim student wearing a t-shirt with a jihadi slogan on it? Be honest now.

I've always supported freedom of political speech in these forums, at schools and in any public setting including the political speech of #Occupy so i'd have no problem with it.

 

[nehalem256]

I'm sure the school has some sort of catch-all policy about shirts that they think are disruptive.

Doesn't sound much different on a practical level from having a policy against shirts that run counter to progressive dogma to me

 

[monovillage]

You have no room to call any other human being on earth either a troll or an asshole.

Sure I do, you're a momma's boy, a troll and an asshole. Plenty of room to insult whiny little wankers like you.

 

[bshole]

Middle school is for learning not for making inane political statements or expressing yourself through your clothing. The kid has no right to wear whatever he wants. He must follow the dress code of the school. This kid obviously has problems with authority. I blame the parents in this situation. My kid is in Catholic middle school and he has to wear a uniform. If he gives the teachers a hard time, I GIVE HIM A MUCH MUCH MUCH HARDER TIME.

I love this quote:

“I never thought it would go this far because, honestly, I don’t see a problem with this,” Marcum told WOWK. “There shouldn’t be a problem with this.”

Well guess what kid, YOU aren't the decider, the educators are. Kid acts like he is the one making and determining the rules. Gawd I couldn't imagine what my father would have done to me if I would have sassed a teacher like that.

 

[fskimospy]

Doesn't sound much different on a practical level from having a policy against shirts that run counter to progressive dogma to me

Well that's because you're a deeply stupid individual.

Schools have blanket statements for dress because unless you're enforcing a uniform there's an incredibly wide array of things that people could come in with. Many businesses have such blanket dress code statements as well.

 

[Moonbeam]

You never het tired of that do you?

You can't quite grasp that the earth isn't flat so it bears repeating. Over and over, in the face of scientific evidence to the contrary your conservative brain insists that the problem you have is the problem of others, that conservatives fear that others are what they are even as the evidence to the contrary has been factually proven. You hate what you are and therefore won't let yourself see it. You have met the enemy and it is yourself. Only gut wrenching analysis of the self and brutal honesty can save you, but you don't want to be saved. How could I tire of telling you when you take your demented reality to the polls and vote to destroy the real world. Your defective thinking is a menace to humanity. Folk like you make my beautiful country a world wide mockery. You are like cement shoes on a nation that needs to get up and run. Your fear of the truth turns the world into shit.

The LORD is my shepherd; I shall not want.
He maketh me to lie down in green pastures:
he leadeth me beside the still waters.
He restoreth my soul:
he leadeth me in the paths of righteousness for his name's sake.
Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death,
I will fear no evil: for thou art with me;
thy rod and thy staff they comfort me.
Thou preparest a table before me in the presence of mine enemies:
thou anointest my head with oil;
my cup runneth over.
Surely goodness and mercy shall follow me all the days of my life:
and I will dwell in the house of the LORD for ever.

The next time you get wound up about what a master bedroom is called or some story about a T-shirt you have incomplete information about, take that psalm and shove it up your ass. You're an anathema to people of faith.

 

[Londo_Jowo]

You never het tired of that do you?

Why do you respond to his drivel?

His thought processes and avatar are perfectly matched.

 

[Zargon]

Middle school is for learning not for making inane political statements or expressing yourself through your clothing. The kid has no right to wear whatever he wants. He must follow the dress code of the school. This kid obviously has problems with authority. I blame the parents in this situation. My kid is in Catholic middle school and he has to wear a uniform. If he gives the teachers a hard time, I GIVE HIM A MUCH MUCH MUCH HARDER TIME.

I love this quote:

Well guess what kid, YOU aren't the decider, the educators are. Kid acts like he is the one making and determining the rules. Gawd I couldn't imagine what my father would have done to me if I would have sassed a teacher like that.

I think that quote was his Father.

It was an NRA shirt, gee whiz, might as well have been an ACLU shirt.

as has been quoted, his shirt doesnt appear to have violated dress code AT ALL.

 

[shortylickens]

Doesn't sound much different on a practical level from having a policy against shirts that run counter to progressive dogma to me

Yup.
Wear a pro gay T-shirt, conservative school expels you, liberals up in arms about discrimination and they stage a protest on the premises.


Wear a pro-gun T-shirt, fuck you. You should have followed school policy you fucking disrupter!

 

[fskimospy]

Yup.
Wear a pro gay T-shirt, conservative school expels you, liberals up in arms about discrimination and they stage a protest on the premises.

Wear a pro-gun T-shirt, fuck you. You should have followed school policy you fucking disrupter!

Why don't you go get some conservatives to stage a protest?

This entire thread is based on a lie that the kid was arrested for wearing a shirt when he was in fact arrested for being disruptive. Of course if the real story was put out then conservatives couldn't indulge their fantasies of being perpetual victims.

 

[Moonbeam]

Why do you hate freedom of speech and expression in a school? What do you fear about political ideas that disagree with yours and why is your fear so extreme you want the authorities to silence dissent?

Come on mono. Why the drama queen act. Surely you know the father of the boy in question has beaten his son into a NRA propaganda tool, brainwashed him from childhood under physical and psychological torment to become a walking advertisement just to gratify his egotistical religious belief. The boy should clearly be taken from his home, no, and raised by the state. You poor blind man! What freedom of speech did that child ever have? Do you think he just popped into the world whole cloth. He was home schooled into being a mere machine with no autonomy ever permitted. He was created to be an outcast and a freak with all the emotional damage that will do to his teenage lust for acceptance from the very people his signage was intended to intimidate. Probably something just like that must of happened to you, I guess. It's just amazing that you can't see the real facts, especially sense they are all so thoroughly laid out before us. So the fact that you come to any other conclusion, especially one evoking the notion of free speech, is truly beyond reckoning or belief.

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

Sure I do, you're a momma's boy, a troll and an asshole. Plenty of room to insult whiny little wankers like you.

A "momma's boy"? You're a gem as always.

Ironically I have always found you maybe the whiniest member on this entire forum. You feign offense and outrage at even the tiniest slight. You act more like a little girl than a grown man.

 

[BoberFett]

Imagine the outcry if some redneck teacher in Nebraska told a student wearing a pro-gay marriage shirt to turn it inside out. The howling from the left would be deafening.

 

[Incorruptible]

Gotta love liberal hypocrisy. Nothing but a bunch of pieces of shit they are. Getting outraged over gay people but who cares about this guy.

 

[monovillage]

A "momma's boy"? You're a gem as always.

Ironically I have always found you maybe the whiniest member on this entire forum. You feign offense and outrage at even the tiniest slight. You act more like a little girl than a grown man.

No outrage, I just like poking fun at the authoritarian leftists that post here. Good thing he wasn't carrying a Lone Ranger, Hopalong Cassidy or a Bonanza lunch box or he really would be in trouble.

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

Imagine the outcry if some redneck teacher in Nebraska told a student wearing a pro-gay marriage shirt to turn it inside out. The howling from the left would be deafening.

Your point is valid, though I will say that I don't see the two shirts as interchangeable.

To me the big, open question here is whether this kid was disrespectful and/or disruptive when asked about the shirt. If he was, then it's not a shock that he was disciplined, just as it would not be a shock if a kid in a gay marriage shirt were if he reacted that way. I'm not prepared to rush to be bothered about this in the absence of more information about what occurred.

 

[TechBoyJK]

Yeah, I'm sure a student won't be questioned for wearing a shirt with "Jihad by Al Qaeda" on it. The NRA is a suspect group and its supporters might well need to be investigated, especially a child who may be indoctrinated in violence.

Dude, stop trolling in P&N.

 

[mect]

It would be interesting to see how the responses in this thread would change for an identical case where the student was wearing a gay rights shirt.

 

[fskimospy]

It would be interesting to see how the responses in this thread would change for an identical case where the student was wearing a gay rights shirt.

I think we all know the answer to that. Nobody should be defending a kid's right to be so disruptive that the police must be called. I'm sure that a few people would make that argument however, as there's always a few posters on any side that are as dim witted as nehalem and co.

 

[umbrella39]

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[umbrella39]

It would be interesting to see how the responses in this thread would change for an identical case where the student was wearing a gay rights shirt.

If it had the identical gun just with rainbow colors instead... 404 response change not found. You pretty much can't wear shirts with guns on them in school and this has been going on for longer than just a few years.

 

[mect]

I think we all know the answer to that. Nobody should be defending a kid's right to be so disruptive that the police must be called. I'm sure that a few people would make that argument however, as there's always a few posters on any side that are as dim witted as nehalem and co.

Well, we'll have to disagree. I think many of the posters would be completely reversing their position. And in both cases, I think the question must be asked, why was there even a disruption. It doesn't sound like the student was actually being disruptive until the teacher decided to make a scene of it. Now at that point, the student possibly became disruptive (although it is hard to tell, as we don't have many details; according to the student he was speaking in a calm voice while the teacher was yelling, but it is hard to judge with only one side of the story). However, I think there would be some legitimate concerns for both an NRA t-shirt as well as a gay rights t-shirt. The act of wearing either is not a legitimate disruption to the education environment, and a teacher that turns either in to one should at the least be reprimanded. If the school wants to police clothing to that level, they need to issue uniforms.

 

[mect]

If it had the identical gun just with rainbow colors instead... 404 response change not found.

No gun, just rainbows and a gay rights message (non-explicit).

 

[BoberFett]

Your point is valid, though I will say that I don't see the two shirts as interchangeable.

To me the big, open question here is whether this kid was disrespectful and/or disruptive when asked about the shirt. If he was, then it's not a shock that he was disciplined, just as it would not be a shock if a kid in a gay marriage shirt were if he reacted that way. I'm not prepared to rush to be bothered about this in the absence of more information about what occurred.

I send my daughter to a private school and avoid all this nonsense. There are no issues of fashion, clothes as politics, etc. Maybe public schools should consider the same based on all the hand wringing about what kids are wearing to school. Even if not a uniform, rather than specifying what cannot be worn, specify what can be worn. Full length pants/jeans with no tears or holes, solid color shirts with no logos. Problem solved.