Another Year of Segregated Proms

[JeffreyLebowski]

Originally posted by: sandorski

Originally posted by: munky

Originally posted by: n yusef

Originally posted by: munky

Originally posted by: n yusef

Originally posted by: munky
If the blacks held a blacks-only private party, would anyone cry racism? So why should whites be ashamed to hold a whites-only party? Because "da white devil be keepin' me down?" Equality swings both ways. The whites are most likely friends with other whites, and if they want to hold a private party, they are under no legal or moral obligation to invite blacks.

Yes, there is a moral obligation not to be a racist.

Morality is a personal choice, you can't force your morals on someone else.

Please, read a book.

Take your own advice.

Let's all read a Book!

But it can't have black text on white pages because that would be racist.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: JeffreyLebowski

Originally posted by: sandorski
Let's all read a Book!

But it can't have black text on white pages because that would be racist.

If you don't want to be seen as an idiot why give the perception you are with posts like the one above?

 

[VashHT]

Originally posted by: JeffreyLebowski

Originally posted by: n yusef

Originally posted by: munky
If the blacks held a blacks-only private party, would anyone cry racism? So why should whites be ashamed to hold a whites-only party? Because "da white devil be keepin' me down?" Equality swings both ways. The whites are most likely friends with other whites, and if they want to hold a private party, they are under no legal or moral obligation to invite blacks.

Yes, there is a moral obligation not to be a racist.

What's racist about wanting to associate with people like yourself? Grow up, If you want to live in a free society, YOU have to accept that people are different and have different views.

That's pretty stupid, my best friend in college was black, from the south side of chicago, while I was white from north suburbs. We didn't have much in common and later he told me he didn't think we'd get along very well at all when we first met. Maybe you'd make some more friends if you got rid of your ideas of associating only with people "like yourself".

 

[Rainsford]

Originally posted by: JeffreyLebowski

Originally posted by: n yusef

Originally posted by: munky
If the blacks held a blacks-only private party, would anyone cry racism? So why should whites be ashamed to hold a whites-only party? Because "da white devil be keepin' me down?" Equality swings both ways. The whites are most likely friends with other whites, and if they want to hold a private party, they are under no legal or moral obligation to invite blacks.

Yes, there is a moral obligation not to be a racist.

What's racist about wanting to associate with people like yourself? Grow up, If you want to live in a free society, YOU have to accept that people are different and have different views.

For a start, I'd say assuming that "people like yourself" refers mostly or primarily to skin color is kind of racist...

And in a free society, people certainly have the right to be racist...that doesn't mean they aren't racists.

 

[Nitemare]

Originally posted by: munky
If the blacks held a blacks-only private party, would anyone cry racism? So why should whites be ashamed to hold a whites-only party? Because "da white devil be keepin' me down?" Equality swings both ways. The whites are most likely friends with other whites, and if they want to hold a private party, they are under no legal or moral obligation to invite blacks.

So none of those white people that attended the party had black friends?

It was a white people only party, not a predominately white people party. There were black people there helping their white friends get ready but were shooed away when it started like the unwelcome guests they were.

It's racist of the parents throwing the party and hypocritical of the white students attending that go to school with and call friends these people of dark complexion that are not invited due to the color of their skin.

Legally they have a right to do this, morally they do not.

Pride in your ancestry and where you come from is one thing. Putting yourself above others because of your skin color is nothing else then blatant racism.

 

[fskimospy]

I have to say, I knew there were some racists on this board but I never had any idea just how many. Jesus.

 

[Munky]

Originally posted by: Nitemare

Originally posted by: munky
If the blacks held a blacks-only private party, would anyone cry racism? So why should whites be ashamed to hold a whites-only party? Because "da white devil be keepin' me down?" Equality swings both ways. The whites are most likely friends with other whites, and if they want to hold a private party, they are under no legal or moral obligation to invite blacks.

So none of those white people that attended the party had black friends?

"Friends" can mean a lot of things, and there's different degrees of friendship. Just because I invite my closest friends to a party doesn't mean I have to invite the rest of my friends, or that the uninvited ones are no longer my friends.

It was a white people only party, not a predominately white people party. There were black people there helping their white friends get ready but were shooed away when it started like the unwelcome guests they were.

So what if there were other white people helping, but they were staff and not guests, and then were shooed away when the party started? That wouldn't be a problem, would it? But just because the staff were black, all of a sudden it's racism and discrimination... :roll:

It's racist of the parents throwing the party and hypocritical of the white students attending that go to school with and call friends these people of dark complexion that are not invited due to the color of their skin.

You don't know just how close "friends" they really were. The truth is people segregate based on all kinds of arbitrary reasons. What about when all the "cool" school kids throw a party and the "uncool" kids aren't invited? You gonna call that a hate crime and segregation? Nope, but the end result is still the same. The only difference is that if it's suspected to be based on skin color, then all of a sudden it's racism and everyone jumps on the politically correct bandwagon.

Legally they have a right to do this, morally they do not.

Morals are personal and subjective. These people don't have to follow yours or anyone else's moral standards.

Pride in your ancestry and where you come from is one thing. Putting yourself above others because of your skin color is nothing else then blatant racism.

Maybe so, but it is still within their right to act that way as long as they don't break the law.

 

[Orignal Earl]

Originally posted by: Robor

Originally posted by: Phokus

Republicans.txt

Dude you kill me with that! :laugh:

:thumbsup:

 

[brandonbull]

Originally posted by: Robor

Originally posted by: brandonbull

Originally posted by: n yusef

Originally posted by: brandonbull
You are judging a community because their culture is different than yours. I'm sure acceptable standards in your community others would call unacceptable.

I didn't expect you to be a moral relativist.

And what moral grounds do I stand on? You don't know. All you know is I didn't drink your kool aid and now you have to insult me in hopes of creating a wolf pack to force me to reiterate your moral position.

And I don't expect you to be a strong believer in personal freedoms, comrade.

:roll: That act is tired.

Which one is that? Do you mean the one where it's ok to think whatever you like just as long as "we" agree with it?

Trying to make white people feel guilty for having a private party and not inviting the correct number of blacks is the act getting old.

I guess I should feel bad for attending a pool party and zero blacks were invited. It was a hassle to swim with my white hood on, and I ended up getting a mustard stain on it. Darn it.

 

[sandorski]

Originally posted by: brandonbull

Originally posted by: Robor

Originally posted by: brandonbull

Originally posted by: n yusef

Originally posted by: brandonbull
You are judging a community because their culture is different than yours. I'm sure acceptable standards in your community others would call unacceptable.

I didn't expect you to be a moral relativist.

And what moral grounds do I stand on? You don't know. All you know is I didn't drink your kool aid and now you have to insult me in hopes of creating a wolf pack to force me to reiterate your moral position.

And I don't expect you to be a strong believer in personal freedoms, comrade.

:roll: That act is tired.

Which one is that? Do you mean the one where it's ok to think whatever you like just as long as "we" agree with it?

Trying to make white people feel guilty for having a private party and not inviting the correct number of blacks is the act getting old.

I guess I should feel bad for attending a pool party and zero blacks were invited. It was a hassle to swim with my white hood on, and I ended up getting a mustard stain on it. Darn it.

They're Racists.

 

[cwjerome]

Originally posted by: JeffreyLebowski

What's racist about wanting to associate with people like yourself?

You mean what's racist about wanting to associate with people of the same skin color? It's a tribal, irrational, collectivism for moral cowards... that's all.

Do you actually believe they have two proms because of simple differences of taste? :roll:

 

[Robor]

Originally posted by: brandonbull

Originally posted by: Robor

Originally posted by: brandonbull

Originally posted by: n yusef

Originally posted by: brandonbull
You are judging a community because their culture is different than yours. I'm sure acceptable standards in your community others would call unacceptable.

I didn't expect you to be a moral relativist.

And what moral grounds do I stand on? You don't know. All you know is I didn't drink your kool aid and now you have to insult me in hopes of creating a wolf pack to force me to reiterate your moral position.

And I don't expect you to be a strong believer in personal freedoms, comrade.

:roll: That act is tired.

Which one is that? Do you mean the one where it's ok to think whatever you like just as long as "we" agree with it?

Trying to make white people feel guilty for having a private party and not inviting the correct number of blacks is the act getting old.

I guess I should feel bad for attending a pool party and zero blacks were invited. It was a hassle to swim with my white hood on, and I ended up getting a mustard stain on it. Darn it.

Whatever racist.

 

[soulcougher73]

Originally posted by: VashHT

Originally posted by: JeffreyLebowski

Originally posted by: n yusef

Originally posted by: munky
If the blacks held a blacks-only private party, would anyone cry racism? So why should whites be ashamed to hold a whites-only party? Because "da white devil be keepin' me down?" Equality swings both ways. The whites are most likely friends with other whites, and if they want to hold a private party, they are under no legal or moral obligation to invite blacks.

Yes, there is a moral obligation not to be a racist.

What's racist about wanting to associate with people like yourself? Grow up, If you want to live in a free society, YOU have to accept that people are different and have different views.

That's pretty stupid, my best friend in college was black, from the south side of chicago, while I was white from north suburbs. We didn't have much in common and later he told me he didn't think we'd get along very well at all when we first met. Maybe you'd make some more friends if you got rid of your ideas of associating only with people "like yourself".

Their is nothing stupid about that. I think what most of us are trying to say when we say "people like ourself" refers to things we like to do. Not what color skin they are. Things like enjoying heavy metal, going mountain biking, etc..things like that. I personally do not know many black people into heavy metal, but if they were then there would be no problem become friends with them. People usually hang around with others who share a common interest regardless of skin color. Unfortunately certain interests are predominatly segregated by skin color. But you are so quick to pull out the racist card at every little thing. Not to mention it is their right to be racist if they choose to be, as long as they are not breaking any laws regarding discrimination. Doesnt mean you have to agree with them, but it is still their right.

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: cwjerome

Originally posted by: JeffreyLebowski

What's racist about wanting to associate with people like yourself?

You mean what's racist about wanting to associate with people of the same skin color? It's a tribal, irrational, collectivism for moral cowards... that's all.

Do you actually believe they have two proms because of simple differences of taste? :roll:

nope. not 100% of differences in taste. its because they are clining ot outdated thinking.

is it racist? sure is.

 

[brandonbull]

Originally posted by: Robor

Originally posted by: brandonbull

Originally posted by: Robor

Originally posted by: brandonbull

Originally posted by: n yusef

Originally posted by: brandonbull
You are judging a community because their culture is different than yours. I'm sure acceptable standards in your community others would call unacceptable.

I didn't expect you to be a moral relativist.

And what moral grounds do I stand on? You don't know. All you know is I didn't drink your kool aid and now you have to insult me in hopes of creating a wolf pack to force me to reiterate your moral position.

And I don't expect you to be a strong believer in personal freedoms, comrade.

:roll: That act is tired.

Which one is that? Do you mean the one where it's ok to think whatever you like just as long as "we" agree with it?

Trying to make white people feel guilty for having a private party and not inviting the correct number of blacks is the act getting old.

I guess I should feel bad for attending a pool party and zero blacks were invited. It was a hassle to swim with my white hood on, and I ended up getting a mustard stain on it. Darn it.

Whatever racist.

That's all you got? Whatever racist? LOL

 

[Robor]

Originally posted by: brandonbull

Originally posted by: Robor

Originally posted by: brandonbull

Originally posted by: Robor

Originally posted by: brandonbull

Originally posted by: n yusef

Originally posted by: brandonbull
You are judging a community because their culture is different than yours. I'm sure acceptable standards in your community others would call unacceptable.

I didn't expect you to be a moral relativist.

And what moral grounds do I stand on? You don't know. All you know is I didn't drink your kool aid and now you have to insult me in hopes of creating a wolf pack to force me to reiterate your moral position.

And I don't expect you to be a strong believer in personal freedoms, comrade.

:roll: That act is tired.

Which one is that? Do you mean the one where it's ok to think whatever you like just as long as "we" agree with it?

Trying to make white people feel guilty for having a private party and not inviting the correct number of blacks is the act getting old.

I guess I should feel bad for attending a pool party and zero blacks were invited. It was a hassle to swim with my white hood on, and I ended up getting a mustard stain on it. Darn it.

Whatever racist.

That's all you got? Whatever racist? LOL

It's more than you're worth, racist.

 

[soulcougher73]

Originally posted by: brandonbull

Originally posted by: Robor

Originally posted by: brandonbull

Originally posted by: Robor

Originally posted by: brandonbull

Originally posted by: n yusef

Originally posted by: brandonbull
You are judging a community because their culture is different than yours. I'm sure acceptable standards in your community others would call unacceptable.

I didn't expect you to be a moral relativist.

And what moral grounds do I stand on? You don't know. All you know is I didn't drink your kool aid and now you have to insult me in hopes of creating a wolf pack to force me to reiterate your moral position.

And I don't expect you to be a strong believer in personal freedoms, comrade.

:roll: That act is tired.

Which one is that? Do you mean the one where it's ok to think whatever you like just as long as "we" agree with it?

Trying to make white people feel guilty for having a private party and not inviting the correct number of blacks is the act getting old.

I guess I should feel bad for attending a pool party and zero blacks were invited. It was a hassle to swim with my white hood on, and I ended up getting a mustard stain on it. Darn it.

Whatever racist.

That's all you got? Whatever racist? LOL

Ignorant people cant usually put together a well thought our string of sentences. Dont worry. The U.S. is full of these types of people.

 

[umbrella39]

Originally posted by: Slick5150

Originally posted by: brandonb
Its only racist when white people do it.

You should try reading things before posting next time.

Perhaps he should just try not posting at all next time...

 

[umbrella39]

Originally posted by: Ackmed
But having a black miss America pageant, is ok right?

:roll: educate yourself.

 

[VashHT]

Originally posted by: soulcougher73

Originally posted by: VashHT

Originally posted by: JeffreyLebowski

Originally posted by: n yusef

Originally posted by: munky
If the blacks held a blacks-only private party, would anyone cry racism? So why should whites be ashamed to hold a whites-only party? Because "da white devil be keepin' me down?" Equality swings both ways. The whites are most likely friends with other whites, and if they want to hold a private party, they are under no legal or moral obligation to invite blacks.

Yes, there is a moral obligation not to be a racist.

What's racist about wanting to associate with people like yourself? Grow up, If you want to live in a free society, YOU have to accept that people are different and have different views.

That's pretty stupid, my best friend in college was black, from the south side of chicago, while I was white from north suburbs. We didn't have much in common and later he told me he didn't think we'd get along very well at all when we first met. Maybe you'd make some more friends if you got rid of your ideas of associating only with people "like yourself".

Their is nothing stupid about that. I think what most of us are trying to say when we say "people like ourself" refers to things we like to do. Not what color skin they are. Things like enjoying heavy metal, going mountain biking, etc..things like that. I personally do not know many black people into heavy metal, but if they were then there would be no problem become friends with them. People usually hang around with others who share a common interest regardless of skin color. Unfortunately certain interests are predominatly segregated by skin color. But you are so quick to pull out the racist card at every little thing. Not to mention it is their right to be racist if they choose to be, as long as they are not breaking any laws regarding discrimination. Doesnt mean you have to agree with them, but it is still their right.

Look, think of a scenario like this. Say a black person in this town happens to want to go to this all white prom, maybe he likes the same music as them and has friends there. Sorry, he can't go, whites only right? What isn't racist about this. You can argue all you want that certain interests are categorized by skin color but that still doesn't give you the right to blanket ban people of a certain race from being around you.

 

[soulcougher73]

Originally posted by: VashHT

Originally posted by: soulcougher73

Originally posted by: VashHT

Originally posted by: JeffreyLebowski

Originally posted by: n yusef

Originally posted by: munky
If the blacks held a blacks-only private party, would anyone cry racism? So why should whites be ashamed to hold a whites-only party? Because "da white devil be keepin' me down?" Equality swings both ways. The whites are most likely friends with other whites, and if they want to hold a private party, they are under no legal or moral obligation to invite blacks.

Yes, there is a moral obligation not to be a racist.

What's racist about wanting to associate with people like yourself? Grow up, If you want to live in a free society, YOU have to accept that people are different and have different views.

That's pretty stupid, my best friend in college was black, from the south side of chicago, while I was white from north suburbs. We didn't have much in common and later he told me he didn't think we'd get along very well at all when we first met. Maybe you'd make some more friends if you got rid of your ideas of associating only with people "like yourself".

Their is nothing stupid about that. I think what most of us are trying to say when we say "people like ourself" refers to things we like to do. Not what color skin they are. Things like enjoying heavy metal, going mountain biking, etc..things like that. I personally do not know many black people into heavy metal, but if they were then there would be no problem become friends with them. People usually hang around with others who share a common interest regardless of skin color. Unfortunately certain interests are predominatly segregated by skin color. But you are so quick to pull out the racist card at every little thing. Not to mention it is their right to be racist if they choose to be, as long as they are not breaking any laws regarding discrimination. Doesnt mean you have to agree with them, but it is still their right.

Look, think of a scenario like this. Say a black person in this town happens to want to go to this all white prom, maybe he likes the same music as them and has friends there. Sorry, he can't go, whites only right? What isn't racist about this. You can argue all you want that certain interests are categorized by skin color but that still doesn't give you the right to blanket ban people of a certain race from being around you.

Well if he wasnt invited then i guess he doesnt get to go. Regardless if he likes the same music or knows people there. Their have been partys in my town that i think would have been fun to go to and knew people that went. But guess what. I wasnt invited so i didnt go. And im white and the party was thrown by white people. I was not offended. Not everyone has to like everyone. Its a free country and its peoples right to reject people for whatever reasons they have wether you agree with them or not. Outside of breaking the laws that is. I dont like classical music so should all classical music lovers hate me for not liking what they like?

The point is people are free to hate/love people or things for whatever reasons they have. That is part of being in a country that allows these rights. I dont agree with ever persons decisions or reasonings behind things they do. But who am i too judge them?

 

[sandorski]

Originally posted by: soulcougher73

Originally posted by: VashHT

Originally posted by: soulcougher73

Originally posted by: VashHT

Originally posted by: JeffreyLebowski

Originally posted by: n yusef

Originally posted by: munky
If the blacks held a blacks-only private party, would anyone cry racism? So why should whites be ashamed to hold a whites-only party? Because "da white devil be keepin' me down?" Equality swings both ways. The whites are most likely friends with other whites, and if they want to hold a private party, they are under no legal or moral obligation to invite blacks.

Yes, there is a moral obligation not to be a racist.

What's racist about wanting to associate with people like yourself? Grow up, If you want to live in a free society, YOU have to accept that people are different and have different views.

That's pretty stupid, my best friend in college was black, from the south side of chicago, while I was white from north suburbs. We didn't have much in common and later he told me he didn't think we'd get along very well at all when we first met. Maybe you'd make some more friends if you got rid of your ideas of associating only with people "like yourself".

Their is nothing stupid about that. I think what most of us are trying to say when we say "people like ourself" refers to things we like to do. Not what color skin they are. Things like enjoying heavy metal, going mountain biking, etc..things like that. I personally do not know many black people into heavy metal, but if they were then there would be no problem become friends with them. People usually hang around with others who share a common interest regardless of skin color. Unfortunately certain interests are predominatly segregated by skin color. But you are so quick to pull out the racist card at every little thing. Not to mention it is their right to be racist if they choose to be, as long as they are not breaking any laws regarding discrimination. Doesnt mean you have to agree with them, but it is still their right.

Look, think of a scenario like this. Say a black person in this town happens to want to go to this all white prom, maybe he likes the same music as them and has friends there. Sorry, he can't go, whites only right? What isn't racist about this. You can argue all you want that certain interests are categorized by skin color but that still doesn't give you the right to blanket ban people of a certain race from being around you.

Well if he wasnt invited then i guess he doesnt get to go. Regardless if he likes the same music or knows people there. Their have been partys in my town that i think would have been fun to go to and knew people that went. But guess what. I wasnt invited so i didnt go. And im white and the party was thrown by white people. I was not offended. Not everyone has to like everyone. Its a free country and its peoples right to reject people for whatever reasons they have wether you agree with them or not. Outside of breaking the laws that is. I dont like classical music so should all classical music lovers hate me for not liking what they like?

The point is people are free to hate/love people or things for whatever reasons they have. That is part of being in a country that allows these rights. I dont agree with ever persons decisions or reasonings behind things they do. But who am i too judge them?

LOL. I'm sure you don't Judge anyone. :roll:

 

[brandonb]

Originally posted by: umbrella39

Originally posted by: Slick5150

Originally posted by: brandonb
Its only racist when white people do it.

You should try reading things before posting next time.

Perhaps he should just try not posting at all next time...

Why, its a valid response. Racism only occurs when white people do it. When black people do it, it's because of years of oppression and poverty and drugs and culture and identity, and insert your stupid liberal buzzword here.

 

[Munky]

Originally posted by: VashHT

Originally posted by: soulcougher73

Originally posted by: VashHT

Originally posted by: JeffreyLebowski

Originally posted by: n yusef

Originally posted by: munky
If the blacks held a blacks-only private party, would anyone cry racism? So why should whites be ashamed to hold a whites-only party? Because "da white devil be keepin' me down?" Equality swings both ways. The whites are most likely friends with other whites, and if they want to hold a private party, they are under no legal or moral obligation to invite blacks.

Yes, there is a moral obligation not to be a racist.

What's racist about wanting to associate with people like yourself? Grow up, If you want to live in a free society, YOU have to accept that people are different and have different views.

That's pretty stupid, my best friend in college was black, from the south side of chicago, while I was white from north suburbs. We didn't have much in common and later he told me he didn't think we'd get along very well at all when we first met. Maybe you'd make some more friends if you got rid of your ideas of associating only with people "like yourself".

Their is nothing stupid about that. I think what most of us are trying to say when we say "people like ourself" refers to things we like to do. Not what color skin they are. Things like enjoying heavy metal, going mountain biking, etc..things like that. I personally do not know many black people into heavy metal, but if they were then there would be no problem become friends with them. People usually hang around with others who share a common interest regardless of skin color. Unfortunately certain interests are predominatly segregated by skin color. But you are so quick to pull out the racist card at every little thing. Not to mention it is their right to be racist if they choose to be, as long as they are not breaking any laws regarding discrimination. Doesnt mean you have to agree with them, but it is still their right.

Look, think of a scenario like this. Say a black person in this town happens to want to go to this all white prom, maybe he likes the same music as them and has friends there. Sorry, he can't go, whites only right? What isn't racist about this. You can argue all you want that certain interests are categorized by skin color but that still doesn't give you the right to blanket ban people of a certain race from being around you.

Actually, anyone throwing a private party has the right to ban anyone else based on any arbitrary category.

 

[halik]

Umm it's only segregation if the other race CAN'T participate. That's what made separate and equal inherently unequal.

this is akin to "Whites Only" water fountain that anyone can drink from.