Another toddler shot his parents

[ivwshane]

Not very bright are you??

When the Nazis enacted their own law in 1938, they added restrictions aimed at Jews, such as not allowing Jews to work in any business involving guns. They also prohibited those under eighteen from buying guns, added yet another permit for handguns, and banned silencers and small hollow-point ammunition. Of course, Nazi officials were exempted from all gun permits. Later that year, after "Kristallnacht," Hitler forbade Jews to possess pretty much any weapons.

To summarize, Hitler did "effect total gun control," but only for the Jews, and only after his regime had been in power for several years. For the rest of the population he relied on laws already in place.

Yeah, you aren't too bright. As explained in the link, you clearly didn't read, the nazis didn't enact tougher gun laws because the ruling party before the nazis already had the toughest gun law of them all, they banned all private possession of guns. The nazis undid some of those laws and excluded the Jews. And as I already pointed out to you, had the Jews not been excluded from any restrictions, you'd have to be an idiot if you think they could have done anything against a full force army. It's why gun nutters who claim to want to keep the government in check is retarded because no gun, or resistance will be able to fight off the US army (regardless of how stupid that hypothetical is in the first place).

 

[mikeymikec]

Well, I for one am glad that the toddler killed their parents before ze Nazis got to them.

Wait, the parents weren't killed! They're still in danger!

/s

 

[Triumph]

Which knee jerk reactions would those be?

I don't know. It doesn't matter. Throw one out there, I'll support it. We need to do something! Think of the Children! DO something!!!!

 

[Smoblikat]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/02/01/toddler-gun_n_6588900.html

Well, dear gun owners, deal with it. What is your arguments now? Maybe you still think that parents are guilty in cases like that?
Guys, time to becomje a lil bit smarter... guns aren't necessary!

Would you support removing guns from the hands of the military and law enforcement?

 

[halik]

Stupid people do stupid shit; good luck trying to turn this into a public policy argument that involves a constitutionally protected liberty.

 

[glenn1]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/02/01/toddler-gun_n_6588900.html

Well, dear gun owners, deal with it. What is your arguments now? Maybe you still think that parents are guilty in cases like that?
Guys, time to becomje a lil bit smarter... guns aren't necessary!

The First Amendment isn't necessary either. Let's pass a law saying that if you're a registered Democrat or voted for Obama we sew your lips shut so you can't talk anymore. If you agree to that I'll gladly surrender my target pistol in return and it would be so worth it.

 

[bshole]

This. Also I'd like to see some statistics on how many people die from negligent gun accidents so I can point out the massive list of common, everyday things that are many times more likely to kill a given US citizen.

There is something like 30,000 gun deaths every year in the USA. Its a god damn war zone out there.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mike-weisser/guns-nra-doctors_b_5939384.html

 

[shira]

So we should also outlaw cars, trucks, knives, baseball bats ... and anything else that someone could use as a weapon.

I think it can be argued that cars, trucks, knives, and baseball bats provide significant benefits every day to all people who possess them, and that those benefits far outweigh the losses.

Now, please tell us what significant daily benefits to all people who possess them firearms provide.

 

[master_shake_]

So we should also outlaw cars, trucks, knives, baseball bats ... and anything else that someone could use as a weapon.

D:

 

[Londo_Jowo]

I think it can be argued that cars, trucks, knives, and baseball bats provide significant benefits every day to all people who possess them, and that those benefits far outweigh the losses.

Now, please tell us what significant daily benefits to all people who possess them firearms provide.

It's far easier and humane to dispatch game or domesticated animals with a firearm than it is to kill them with a vehicle, knife, or baseball bat.

 

[glenn1]

Now, please tell us what significant daily benefits to all people who possess them firearms provide.

They scare you, which is enough. Free men don't need to explain themselves, it's your issue to deal with.

"I prefer dangerous freedom over peaceful slavery."
- Thomas Jefferson, letter to James Madison, January 30, 1787

"What country can preserve its liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance. Let them take arms."
- Thomas Jefferson

 

[DrPizza]

There is something like 30,000 gun deaths every year in the USA. Its a god damn war zone out there.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mike-weisser/guns-nra-doctors_b_5939384.html

If you exclude suicides and gang violence, how many gun deaths are there annually?
I only glanced for a minute, but http://www.theguardian.com/news/datablog/2011/jan/10/gun-crime-us-state 8600 total firearms murders in the US in 2011. Since a significant percentage of them are gang/drug related violence, it seems that the problem is perhaps not quite as bad as people want it to be perceived.

 

[shira]

It's far easier and humane to dispatch game or domesticated animals with a firearm than it is to kill them with a vehicle, knife, or baseball bat.

You seem to have a reading comprehension problem. I asked for "significant daily benefits to all people who possess [firearms]" You just provided a signficant intermittent benefit to a small minority of firearm owners.

 

[shira]

They scare you, which is enough. Free men don't need to explain themselves, it's your issue to deal with.

"I prefer dangerous freedom over peaceful slavery."
- Thomas Jefferson, letter to James Madison, January 30, 1787

"What country can preserve its liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance. Let them take arms."
- Thomas Jefferson

A BS reply. By your reasoning, I should be able to store plutonium in my basement, in case I need it to fight back against my corrupt government. And since I'm a free man, I wouldn't need to 'explain myself" for endangering everyone withing a 10 mile radius of my home.

No one - not even a "free man" is allowed to unreasonably endanger others just because they're psychotic and think they're about to engage in armed insurrection against the American government.

 

[Londo_Jowo]

You seem to have a reading comprehension problem. I asked for "significant daily benefits to all people who possess [firearms]" You just provided a signficant intermittent benefit to a small minority of firearm owners.

The vast majority of gun owners have them for the specific purpose of dispatching game and/or domesticated animals.

 

[bshole]

The vast majority of gun owners have them for the specific purpose of dispatching game and/or domesticated animals.

Then ban all guns except SINGLE SHOT rifles.

 

[Jaskalas]

The vast majority of gun owners have them for the specific purpose of dispatching game and/or domesticated animals.

Outlawing handguns keeps those Hunters armed with rifles...

The argument therefore, needs to be made that people need handguns for self defense.

 

[Londo_Jowo]

Outlawing handguns keeps those Hunters armed with rifles...

The argument therefore, needs to be made that people need handguns for self defense.

I use my Ruger .22 Magnum (10" barrel) to dispatch hogs rather than a rifle.

 

[glenn1]

A BS reply. By your reasoning, I should be able to store plutonium in my basement, in case I need it to fight back against my corrupt government. And since I'm a free man, I wouldn't need to 'explain myself" for endangering everyone withing a 10 mile radius of my home.

No one - not even a "free man" is allowed to unreasonably endanger others just because they're psychotic and think they're about to engage in armed insurrection against the American government.

So once again you think because you are personally scared of something that no one else should be allowed to have it. Good news for the feminists who are afraid of men raping them, we'll just confiscate your penis since you have no need for it anyway. That way you won't be able to "endanger others" either.

Thank goodness our founding fathers weren't such sniveling cowards as people like the one I've quoted and others else the U.S. wouldn't even exist.

 

[Matt1970]

If you exclude suicides and gang violence, how many gun deaths are there annually?
I only glanced for a minute, but http://www.theguardian.com/news/datablog/2011/jan/10/gun-crime-us-state 8600 total firearms murders in the US in 2011. Since a significant percentage of them are gang/drug related violence, it seems that the problem is perhaps not quite as bad as people want it to be perceived.

There is one site out there http://www.gunpolicy.org/ that claims it's 30K when just about every other source out there is around 16K.

 

[Matt1970]

Then ban all guns except SINGLE SHOT rifles.

Yours aren't single shot rifles.

 

[bradly1101]

Good shoot.

I was going to say, "So... bad shoot?"

I swear if every 'bad shoot' was called out here as often as a 'good shoot' we'd easily see the 'winner' and the logic of a world free from guns in the hands of stupid people, volatile people, jealous people, emotional people, the mentally ill, criminals, kids... becomes clear.

 

[Mxylplyx]

If the toddler didn't have access to a gun he would have used a knife to wound both his parents, so restricting firearms accomplishes nothing.

 

[shira]

The vast majority of gun owners have them for the specific purpose of dispatching game and/or domesticated animals.

Little did I suspect that the many tens millions of urban handgun owners (in fact, the majority of firearms owners) are dispatching domesticated animals and game on a daily basis.

I call BS.

 

[shira]

So once again you think because you are personally scared of something that no one else should be allowed to have it. Good news for the feminists who are afraid of men raping them, we'll just confiscate your penis since you have no need for it anyway. That way you won't be able to "endanger others" either.

Thank goodness our founding fathers weren't such sniveling cowards as people like the one I've quoted and others else the U.S. wouldn't even exist.

Way to evade the central issue.

Gun owners constantly living in fear of their government and imagining they're going to be staging a successful insurrection - yeah, thos are the sane members of society. And anyone without that psychosis is a "sniveling coward."