ANOTHER Republican politician caught in gay sex public restroom scandal

[K1052]

Originally posted by: sirjonk

Originally posted by: shira

Originally posted by: bamacre

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Gotta love the "tolerant" left and their "gay" jokes.

I'm glad I wasn't the only one who was catching this. It is sad that too many here are laughing at his homosexuality rather than his hypocrisy.

:thumbsdown:

The source of the laughter IS his hypocrisy. His holier-than-thou anti-gay rhetoric juxtaposed against his restroom actions and his pathetic excuses are what make this situation so laughable. Especially as this pattern (public gay-bigot, private homosexual) seems so typical of the Republican party these days.

If Craig were instead just an out-of-the-closet gay, we'd view his actions as just sad, a byproduct of the anti-gay bigotry still rampant in this country.

I'm no expert, but do out of the closet gays meet in public restrooms for anonymous sex? Kinda thought that was exclusively to the closeted these days.

Not typically, the restroom/park/rest stop adventures are usually reserved for those who are married/deeply in the closet. Even this has been on the decline with the dawn of a number of online services that do nothing but connect men looking for sex.

 

[bamacre]

Originally posted by: ayabe

Originally posted by: bamacre

Originally posted by: Arkaign
Which party tries to legislate morality for the most part?

That's a tougher question than you think.

Wrong, there's only one team who constantly tries to deal from a position of moral superiority and it's the GOP.

Obviously, that's a tougher question that you think as well.

The Democrats definitely try to legislate morality. Just like K1052 pointed out, it's just with different issues.

 

[Craig234]

Originally posted by: ayabe

Originally posted by: bamacre

Originally posted by: Arkaign
Which party tries to legislate morality for the most part?

That's a tougher question than you think.

Wrong, there's only one team who constantly tries to deal from a position of moral superiority and it's the GOP.

I love the whining in this thread by the r-wingers, yeah we are mean for belittling a hypocrite because he's a closet homosexual. This however is one individual, your political allies have demeaned and condemned millions of gay people regardless of their personal merits - therein lies the difference.

To be fair, I think the left similarly tries for the moral superiority, but that's a good thing.

It's more about what you think of the morals. The left tends to oppose poverty and suffering and unjust war and violence and such - all good moral positions.

The right has largely IMO misguided 'morals' by which they want things like discrimination against gays, hidden under the rhetoric about 'protecting marriage', just as they used to (and yes, this includes the south which used to be democrats at the time) advocate allowing discrimination against blacks under the rhetoric about 'states' rights', and as they hide an agenda to help the rich against the workers by opposing labor organizing under 'right to work' rhetoric and so on.

The left should be careful to distinguish between the *misuse* of morals in politics and the use of morals. The left's greatest political accomplishments are 'moral' issues IMO.

The right is IMO simply using the religious right for votes and pandering to them. That misuse of 'morals' is what the left, and many on the right, seem to object to.

 

[Vette73]

Arrest Report for all to see.


HA!!! He tried to use his title of a senator to get out of it. He gave the cop his card and said "What do you think about that?"

 

[shira]

Originally posted by: sirjonk

Originally posted by: shira

Originally posted by: bamacre

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Gotta love the "tolerant" left and their "gay" jokes.

I'm glad I wasn't the only one who was catching this. It is sad that too many here are laughing at his homosexuality rather than his hypocrisy.

:thumbsdown:

The source of the laughter IS his hypocrisy. His holier-than-thou anti-gay rhetoric juxtaposed against his restroom actions and his pathetic excuses are what make this situation so laughable. Especially as this pattern (public gay-bigot, private homosexual) seems so typical of the Republican party these days.

If Craig were instead just an out-of-the-closet gay, we'd view his actions as just sad, a byproduct of the anti-gay bigotry still rampant in this country.

I'm no expert, but do out of the closet gays meet in public restrooms for anonymous sex? Kinda thought that was exclusively to the closeted these days.

Good point. I guess I should amend what I said to: If Craig were just an in-the-closet gay, without a public anti-gay agenda, we'd view his actions as just sad.

 

[rpanic]

Originally posted by: Marlin1975
Arrest Report for all to see.


HA!!! He tried to use his title of a senator to get out of it. He gave the cop his card and said "What do you think about that?"

I saw that in the morning news, typical power abusive politician, what a gay-hole.

 

[WHAMPOM]

Where's moonbeamy? Republican's SOP hate speech of their deepest, darkest desires. With lame excuses, yet! "I did not have restroom sex with that cop!".

 

[WHAMPOM]

Originally posted by: Pliablemoose
Goddamn it, now I'm gonna be watching for freaks in public bathrooms, as if highway rest stops weren't freaky enough

Don't take a late night nap with your mouth open. HAHA!!!! Oh Ya! If you watch them, they'll think it a come-on.

 

[yowolabi]

Originally posted by: Zedtom
This whole thing of looking for sexual gratification in an airport restroom is disturbing. With all the security safeguards and personnel in an airport, the risk of being under surveillance would seem to kill any desire.

Even in the most secure buildings, there are no cameras in the restrooms. It makes perfect sense.

 

[theeedude]

I wonder how many times he pulled that stunt before he actually hit on a cop? I mean what is the expected mean time to sitting next to a cop in a bathroom based on the percentage of population that is in law enforcement? Because it seems a lot of these guys hit on cops, and people think wow he must really be unlucky to do it first time and end up with a cop being there. I don't think so.

 

[Vette73]

Originally posted by: senseamp
I wonder how many times he pulled that stunt before he actually hit on a cop? I mean what is the expected mean time to sitting next to a cop in a bathroom based on the percentage of population that is in law enforcement? Because it seems a lot of these guys hit on cops, and people think wow he must really be unlucky to do it first time and end up with a cop being there. I don't think so.

That and he knows the "code" for saying lets do it. I don;t think you just pick up on that.

Rumors of him having gay sex here in DC came out last year. But this is just proof this ahs been going on.

 

[ayabe]

Originally posted by: Marlin1975

Originally posted by: senseamp
I wonder how many times he pulled that stunt before he actually hit on a cop? I mean what is the expected mean time to sitting next to a cop in a bathroom based on the percentage of population that is in law enforcement? Because it seems a lot of these guys hit on cops, and people think wow he must really be unlucky to do it first time and end up with a cop being there. I don't think so.

That and he knows the "code" for saying lets do it. I don;t think you just pick up on that.

Rumors of him having gay sex here in DC came out last year. But this is just proof this ahs been going on.

Rumors go way back to 1982, but there were fresh allegations prior to the 2006 elections which were downplayed by R's at the time who were trying to say it didn't matter and his personal life was personal.

Strangely enough some of these same people who were defending him are now calling for his resignation.

 

[heyheybooboo]

We need a 'love connection' between Senator Craig and Congressman Allen.

 

[Kadarin]

LOL @ CNN.com banner headline: "Sen. Larry Craig, who was arrested on misdemeanor disorderly conduct in a bathroom, denies he is gay and accuses a newspaper of a witchhunt."

If you're not gay, why troll public restrooms for homosexual activity?

 

[nick1985]

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: sirjonk

Where does the GOP get these guys from? I mean...public restroom sex?

I guess good old BJs in your office from the opposite sex is sooo 90's.

God I love the Gay Old Party.

:laugh:[/quote]

Nothing short of an Elite post by an Elite member. :thumbsup:

 

[Fern]

Originally posted by: nick1985

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: sirjonk

Where does the GOP get these guys from? I mean...public restroom sex?

I guess good old BJs in your office from the opposite sex is sooo 90's.

God I love the Gay Old Party.

:laugh:

Nothing short of an Elite post by an Elite member. :thumbsup:[/quote]

Originally posted by: sirjonk

-snip-

God I love the Gay Old Party.

Ummm.. Dave *plagerized* (sp?) from sirjonk who posted it first.

Fern

 

[Vic]

I'm a strong supporter of sexual rights, and I've long looked forward to Craig losing his office, but I am confused about one message that is being strongly presented here. It seems that posters here are saying that it's acceptable to be homosexual... unless you're a Republican. Is that correct?
Hopefully not. Condemn your opponent for his hypocrisy all you want, but at the very least try to pretend to be mature by remembering that rights are universal, not partisan-specific. Otherwise, this doesn't look very good. I was utterly disgusted by what the GOP did to Clinton in the late 90s, but turnabout is not fair play.

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: Vic
turnabout is not fair play.

Bahahahahahaha :laugh:

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: heyheybooboo
We need a 'love connection' between Senator Craig and Congressman Allen.

According to Vic then it would be OK among the two Republicans even though they post legislation against gays.

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: heyheybooboo
We need a 'love connection' between Senator Craig and Congressman Allen.

According to Vic then it would be OK among the two Republicans even though they post legislation against gays.

So what you're saying is that homosexuality, even consensual, should be illegal under certain circumstances?

 

[shira]

Originally posted by: Vic
I'm a strong supporter of sexual rights, and I've long looked forward to Craig losing his office, but I am confused about one message that is being strongly presented here.It seems that posters here are saying that it's acceptable to be homosexual... unless you're a Republican. Is that correct?
Hopefully not. Condemn your opponent for his hypocrisy all you want, but at the very least try to pretend to be mature by remembering that rights are universal, not partisan-specific. Otherwise, this doesn't look very good. I was utterly disgusted by what the GOP did to Clinton in the late 90s, but turnabout is not fair play.

No. Hopefully, the posters here are saying it's acceptable to be homosexual and Republican if you don't also publicly denounce homosexuality as immoral and pretend to represent the "straight" moral high ground.

Edit: In this context, by "acceptable" I mean above reproach. It's acceptable for anyone to be gay in the broad sense of "your sexual orientation is none of my business."

 

[Rastus]

It's not going to be easy finding someone to replace him because of his wide stance on these issues.

 

[heyheybooboo]

Originally posted by: shira
No. Hopefully, the posters here are saying it's acceptable to be homosexual and Republican if you don't also publicly denounce homosexuality as immoral and pretend to represent the "straight" moral high ground.

Ding! Ding! Ding!

We have a winner!

I kinda feel sorry for the guys. To me it seems they've led a crappy repressed life. I honestly wish they could 'find each other' and possibly find happiness in their life together.

I'm not offended. It doesn't threaten my sexuality. I wouldn't care if they walked hand and hand thru the Capital. I think it would be good for them.

I imagine some people would be offended by that. I don't really understand why - but that's okay, too.

It's not my place to judge anyone - unless they demonstrate lying, manipulative, hypocritical, unethical behavior from a position of public trust.

Then it's open season on 'em!


Edit: lol @ Rastus :laugh:

 

[jman19]

Originally posted by: Vic
I'm a strong supporter of sexual rights, and I've long looked forward to Craig losing his office, but I am confused about one message that is being strongly presented here. It seems that posters here are saying that it's acceptable to be homosexual... unless you're a Republican. Is that correct?
Hopefully not. Condemn your opponent for his hypocrisy all you want, but at the very least try to pretend to be mature by remembering that rights are universal, not partisan-specific. Otherwise, this doesn't look very good. I was utterly disgusted by what the GOP did to Clinton in the late 90s, but turnabout is not fair play.

It's fine to be homosexual and Republican, but his political viewpoints are clearly hypocritical. Surely not all Republicans have an "anti-gay" agenda, if you'd call it that, but Craig does.

 

[jman19]

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: heyheybooboo
We need a 'love connection' between Senator Craig and Congressman Allen.

According to Vic then it would be OK among the two Republicans even though they post legislation against gays.

So what you're saying is that homosexuality, even consensual, should be illegal under certain circumstances?

I'm not one to defend dmcnutjob but how do you know he is talking about legality? Not everything that shouldn't be is illegal. People shouldn't be hypocrites, but that's not against the law