He'll be running up the debt for the next 10 years, and we'll be paying for it for the next 20-30 years if we are lucky. Probably much longer than that.
He hasn't even been in office THREE MONTHS yet. The shit that is hitting the fan is not his fault people, good god, how retarded are you??? Sure, he's doing a lot of things I disagree with but get real...We won't really have much of a clue if he's doing a good job for another year or two... Two years from now if things are still awful the economy is still collapsing, all that, sure, lay it at his feet, he deserves it. But reading this thread is like this:
1. 3 year old kid completely destroys his bedroom
2. He leaves to go outside, his 4yr old sister walks into the room.
3. At this point, the posters in this thread, we'll call them the parents, observe the room and become furious with the girl for having a messy room...
And it's good that he is actually treating us like real people and talking to us, instead of just ignoring everything and living in a bubble like Bush did...
1. 3 year old kid completely destroys his bedroom
2. He leaves to go outside, his 4yr old sister walks into the room.
3. At this point, the posters in this thread, we'll call them the parents, observe the room and become furious with the girl for having a messy room...
And it's good that he is actually treating us like real people and talking to us, instead of just ignoring everything and living in a bubble like Bush did...
A 4 freaking trillion dollar budget proves beyond a shadow of a doubt he is clueless. You can not take on that kind of deficit with out bankrupting the nation. Also his bull crap cap and trade giving business even more incentive to leave this country. Obama has no clue his answer to every thing is more money and more government. Government is the problem not the solution to our problems.
He has been in office 3 months yet he is outspending what Bush did in 8 years. He is running up trillions of dollars of debt with no reasonable plan to pay it off. If we wait 2 years before questioning his actions it may be too late.
Modelworks
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You guys are acting surprised that a president goes on tv and talks about what he is going to do. We all know they never really do anything , but talk. That is their place in the government, to walk around telling people what the government is going to do for them, without actually doing anything. Go through history and start counting how many presidents actually came up with their own plans themselves and implemented it. Pelosi has more power to change things than Obama at this point.
Modelworks
Lifer
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He won't be doing it much longer. All the countries lending money said today that the bank is either closing or closed. Our credit limit has been reached .
Why the nonsense that he gets criticized either for not communicating enough, or for two much? Are Republicans just women who won't be please whatever husband Obama does?
In the middle of our greatest economic crises in decades, with a concerned public needing clarification and updates on his plans, and opposition brewing, he shouldn't do this?
Yes, surrounded by professionals... Like his man, Timothy Geithner - the tax cheat. Let them do the thinking, because WE the people are STUPID... Well, at least he isn't surround by people like Bill ayers and Rev. Wright anymore... Change that you can believe. Let the government do the thinking for you..
what does the public need clarification about that they can't get from spending 30 seconds watching the morning or evening news or skimming through the front page of any newspaper or news website? it's not like he's giving out anything at these events that hasn't been discussed ad nauseum already.
maybe he should save the big announcements for when he's got something worth announcing? I mean, we didn't elect him to be hand-holder in chief. anyone who cares about what's going on in the world and with the economy already knows what's going on and where this administration stands on it, and the people who don't care flipped the channel as soon as they realized that whatever show they watch wasn't on.
to me at least, crap like this makes me think he's more concerned about his public image and getting reelected than actually getting something done.
misle
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They didn't air American Idol last night for this? It's no wonder. It's the same shit. Folks with less than stellar talent going on TV every week to try and win the hearts and minds of Americans.
Ok, I've read through a few painful pages of comments by those that claim to be non-partisan and/or soon-to-be former Obama supporters and I have to call shens on all of them
The man has been in office a total of 59 days. That's it.
I know that it might seem like he has been there longer, but that is because you are used to Bush showing up to actually give his canned speech without questions to save what little intellectual image he has once a year.
Now, judging by all of your outrage at Obama and all of your comments of how he should have totally fixed everything by now because he is at the helm, completely in charge and everything he does now completely lets Bush off the hook....I guess you can all definitively now state that 9/11 was 100% Bush's fault. No more, he was "only on the job 8 months" and "his policies hadn't even had a chance to take effect" bullshit. It appears your standard for Obama is that after day 1, everything is his including any mistakes that can be directly attributed to the guy before him. Thanks for clearing this up.
On the actual topic of his speech and his comments, I've got some reservations about some things he said, but I will at least give him a few more months when some of his proposals have actually been instituted and can have some effect on the overall picture. Not 59 days in.
The man has been in office a total of 59 days. That's it.
I know that it might seem like he has been there longer, but that is because you are used to Bush showing up to actually give his canned speech without questions to save what little intellectual image he has once a year.
Now, judging by all of your outrage at Obama and all of your comments of how he should have totally fixed everything by now because he is at the helm, completely in charge and everything he does now completely lets Bush off the hook....I guess you can all definitively now state that 9/11 was 100% Bush's fault. No more, he was "only on the job 8 months" and "his policies hadn't even had a chance to take effect" bullshit. It appears your standard for Obama is that after day 1, everything is his including any mistakes that can be directly attributed to the guy before him. Thanks for clearing this up.
On the actual topic of his speech and his comments, I've got some reservations about some things he said, but I will at least give him a few more months when some of his proposals have actually been instituted and can have some effect on the overall picture. Not 59 days in.
Originally posted by: spidey07
This is The Sucker that not only has a hook set in his mouth being dragged into the boat, he wants to get dragged into the boat. Now that is some supreme sales work right there. Seriously, once the fish WANTS to get in the safety of the boat you can kill that fish and he'll be smiling at you all the while. If you haven't noticed I'm ready for fishing in real life and we will be trolling for 20-30 pound stripers.
Government is not the solution. Your heart is in the right place but free people do better.
What's my plan? Let free people provide solutions.
What happens when the people either don't have money or are too scared to spend it? Who's left to stimulate the economy?
Starbuck1975
Lifer
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Did Obama not run on the campaign message that he would essentially fix everything broken about the Bush Administration? He chose to run for election, he won the Presidency based on a message of hope, and now the nation's problems are his problems...after day 1, it doesn't matter what the guy before him did...what matters is what he does now.
Agreed, it is too soon to judge Obama's policies...but it is never too soon to question them...I understand the whole FDR fireside chats concept...the problem is, as you pointed out, is that the content of those chats is getting worrisome.
retrospooty
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Originally posted by: spidey07
This is The Sucker that not only has a hook set in his mouth being dragged into the boat, he wants to get dragged into the boat. Now that is some supreme sales work right there. Seriously, once the fish WANTS to get in the safety of the boat you can kill that fish and he'll be smiling at you all the while. If you haven't noticed I'm ready for fishing in real life and we will be trolling for 20-30 pound stripers.
Government is not the solution. Your heart is in the right place but free people do better.
What's my plan? Let free people provide solutions.
That happened... and we would be entering a depression right now with the free market in control. Without the bailouts and stim packages, we would be in a depression. Gee I wonder if you would be complaining about everythng Obama does then... ? Something tells me you would.
They have a plan. It's called: "Act Like Yosemite Sam"
"Oh, yeah? Well, I talk LOUD, and I carry a BIGGER stick! And I use it, too!"
"Ya better say yer prayers, ya flea-bitten Obama varmints, I'm a-gonna blow ya to smithereens!"
(insert sounds of gunfire)
Effective? :laugh:
If he was providing new information, that'd be fine, but he's not. He's simply catering to the adoring throngs of groupies....errr.... reporters and spouting off the usual politician drivel.
Bush was terrible to the other extreme. He wouldn't come out and talk to the people unless he'd screwed something up badly. Obama is the pendulum going to the other side. He's going to yap on about nothing and create more propaganda at every opportunity.
How about, stop wasting time on this stuff, on leno, on whatever else, and get to work?
Sheik Yerbouti
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Better to have a president willing to be seen than one hiding in texas, clearing brush, playing guitar on stage while new orleans is sinking... it could go on and on.
I support/supported and hope to continue to support Obama, he's had some screw ups, but I can't think of a single person in that white hot of a spotlight who wouldn't. At least he's willing to show his face, admit mistakes and work to resolve them.
That is a SHITLOAD more than dumbya did, ever.
I support/supported and hope to continue to support Obama, he's had some screw ups, but I can't think of a single person in that white hot of a spotlight who wouldn't. At least he's willing to show his face, admit mistakes and work to resolve them.
That is a SHITLOAD more than dumbya did, ever.
if W is going to be the only unit through which we measure Obama by, we may as well just elect him president for life today.
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