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theeedude

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As are you, and my opinion is that we enjoy a good burger now and again and that alone is justification. You will be hard pressed to find that to be a major health threat. The key with most things is moderation and when exercised allows the enjoyment of many things. Addiction on the other hand is in opposition to moderation, and while many crimes have been committed to gain access to drugs, few have been done because of the craving for a big mac. Eating poorly on a chronic basis is foolish too. That's not what most advocate.

Fast food company advertising sure does advocate it.
 

her209

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What's the basis for banning food stamp recipients from being able to purchase sugary drinks in NY?
 

CycloWizard

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Unless we're prepared to argue with the laws of thermodynamics, it's pretty straightforward to see just how deadly a cheeseburger is:

Mass accumulation = (calories eaten-calories expended) * 1 g fat/8 cal * 1 lb/454 g

So, if I eat an Angus Bacon Cheeseburger from McDonald's, which has 790 calories (350 from fat) and burn NONE of those calories, I'll gain 0.2175 pounds of fat. Or, if I had three of those per day and lived a sedentary lifestyle burning only 2000 calories per day, I would gain 0.1019 pounds per day. Why, in only 981 days of eating nothing but McDonald's bacon cheeseburgers, I would have gained 100 pounds! At that rate, I may as well be shooting up heroin, huh?
 

Dankk

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Can someone link to the thread that had the global-warming deniers or whatever being killed/exploding? I was curious but I never watched the video.

Edit: Nevermind, I found it.
 
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Hayabusa Rider

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You can make a pretty good argument that drug problems are problems with moderation as well. And most folks apparently have a hell of a lot easier time moderating drugs than food.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/01/07/eveningnews/main6069163.shtml

And yet it's less common to have burger addiction related crimes. You choose to ignore the tragic compulsion of drug addiction. Someone who is hooked on meth isn't the same a someone who likes a cheeseburger. You might as well say rape is equivalent to getting a speeding ticket. I wouldn't be surprised if someone did.
 

BoberFett

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When did the word liberal go from one which was based on the "liberty" to one which means "you're free to do exactly what I tell you to do?"

Republicans didn't make liberal a dirty word, "liberals" did that on their own.
 
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And yet it's less common to have burger addiction related crimes. You choose to ignore the tragic compulsion of drug addiction. Someone who is hooked on meth isn't the same a someone who likes a cheeseburger. You might as well say rape is equivalent to getting a speeding ticket. I wouldn't be surprised if someone did.

That's just because heroin costs a lot more than 99 cents a hit. There would be riots in the street if someone took away the people's junk food. Look at all the ire a stupid commercial is causing.
 

irishScott

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If "progressives" had their way Anorexia would afflict 66% of Americans within a decade.
 

Hayabusa Rider

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That's just because heroin costs a lot more than 99 cents a hit. There would be riots in the street if someone took away the people's junk food. Look at all the ire a stupid commercial is causing.

Would you show us where a 99¢ burger causes the difference between withdrawal from heroin and a happy meal?

Show us burger induced seizures from not making it to Burger King.

Your argument for equivalency fails.
 

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People just need to mind their own business. If it wasn't burgers it would be something else for these people. If the gov ever wants to convert people they should make commercials that highlight the good aspects of staying healthy and eating well instead of trying to talk crap fatty foods. It's the election strategy all over again, don't bother with a positive message yourself just trash the other guy.
 

theeedude

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It's not government commercial. We still have freedom of speech. If you don't like it you can ignore it.
 
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Would you show us where a 99¢ burger causes the difference between withdrawal from heroin and a happy meal?

Show us burger induced seizures from not making it to Burger King.

Your argument for equivalency fails.

It's not equivalent. That's my point. The junk food problem is far worse. The proof is in the numbers.

I can't believe I'm arguing with someone, in the health care industry no less, that the obesity epidemic is worse than the drug "epidemic."
 
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theeedude

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We are having an epidemic of childhood obesity and diabetes, not a time to be mincing words about junk food. You can argue that eating a hamburger does not always lead to diabetes and obesity. So what, drunk driving does not always lead to a crash either. Goal is to reduce uptake of junk food, not eliminate it.
 

Jaskalas

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So, if I eat an Angus Bacon Cheeseburger from McDonald's, which has 790 calories (350 from fat) and burn NONE of those calories, I'll gain 0.2175 pounds of fat. Or, if I had three of those per day and lived a sedentary lifestyle burning only 2000 calories per day, I would gain 0.1019 pounds per day. Why, in only 981 days of eating nothing but McDonald's bacon cheeseburgers, I would have gained 100 pounds! At that rate, I may as well be shooting up heroin, huh?

Why would anyone have thee of those per day?
 

werepossum

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There's no reason for you to exist, yet here you are. Given the choice between the two, the burger is the better choice.
LOL!
I have people coming to buy for syringes for heroin. NY state allows this. There were a few times when there was a distinct possibility that I'd have to prevent them from jumping the counter to steal them. Across the street is a McDonalds and to my knowledge no one has ever come in with burger withdrawal.

The ad draws a poor analogy at best.

QFT Not many people killed by drivers hopped up on Big Macs either.
 

Jaskalas

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We are having an epidemic of childhood obesity and diabetes, not a time to be mincing words about junk food. You can argue that eating a hamburger does not always lead to diabetes and obesity. So what, drunk driving does not always lead to a crash either. Goal is to reduce uptake of junk food, not eliminate it.

Does your agenda account for those of us who are thin as a rail and need high calorie food, or do we not fit into your DPRK like scheme of population control?

Yes.. you won't eliminate it like the Healthcare bill won't eliminate private insurers.
 
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OCGuy

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I think parents who take obese children to fast food joints should be investigated for abuse.

You are setting the children up for a life of ridicule, harassment, and health problems. And frankly, they are only going to be able to have terrible sex with other disgusting obese people, if they can find a mate at all.

Does that mean I want to government to mess with what adults can eat? No. But some parents are not fit to be parents.
 

theeedude

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Does your agenda account for those of us who are thin as a rail and need high calorie food, or do we not fit into your DPRK like scheme of population control?

Yes.. you won't eliminate it like the Healthcare bill won't eliminate private insurers.

You are free to ignore the ad. There are better high calorie foods than burgers anyways, otherwise athletes would be eating nothing but junk food.
 

Hayabusa Rider

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It's not equivalent. That's my point. The junk food problem is far worse. The proof is in the numbers.

I can't believe I'm arguing with someone, in the health care industry no less, that the obesity epidemic is worse than the drug "epidemic."

"The numbers" mean shit. The two aren't equivalent in any way. Your argument comes down to this. "Act x is more numerous than y, so x is worse."

Well giving a kid a heroin injection is a hell of a lot worse than the occasional happy meal. The ad is intended to make an emotional connection but in terms of reality? No.

Now if someone wants to talk about nutrition and general health, that's great. Leave the silly hyperbole out of it.