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woolfe9999

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If it was paid for by a private organization, then nothing. But if taxpayers footed the bill, then everything.

Over the years, we've seen many ads that warn of the health hazards of drugs, drinking & driving, various foods and especially, tobacco products. Which of these do you suppose are paid for with tax payer dollars? So far as I know, the government issues things like Surgeon General's warnings. They don't produce TV ads. These types of ads are generally funded by NGO's such as the America Lung Association, etc. But hey, maybe I'm wrong and somewhere tax payer money is paying for ads like this.

- wolf
 

Hayabusa Rider

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You can argue that eating a hamburger does not always lead to diabetes and obesity. So what, drunk driving does not always lead to a crash either.

The following is a public service announcement from "People who Feed their Kid a Burger are Bad Parents Society"

Meet Joe Chesky. Joe is a truck driver. He's a good husband, father and provider. Joe has never in his 38 years eaten a burger.

Until this day.

Today Joe bit into a Whopper with cheese, and died at the steering wheel, killing Susan Weller, who was also a good parent but who never succumbed to temptation. She and society paid a heavy penalty for Joe's poor judgment. Please if your know someone who has had a burger, especially with cheese and bacon don't let them drive. Friends don't let friends eat fast food.
 
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"The numbers" mean shit. The two aren't equivalent in any way. Your argument comes down to this. "Act x is more numerous than y, so x is worse."

Well giving a kid a heroin injection is a hell of a lot worse than the occasional happy meal. The ad is intended to make an emotional connection but in terms of reality? No.

Now if someone wants to talk about nutrition and general health, that's great. Leave the silly hyperbole out of it.

I guess I shouldn't be surprised at this attitude after all. If the health care industry actually saw this as the problem it is it probably wouldn't be so bad in the first place.
 

Hayabusa Rider

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I guess I shouldn't be surprised at this attitude after all. If the health care industry actually saw this as the problem it is it probably wouldn't be so bad in the first place.

I'm glad you aren't a prosecuting attorney who sees a murder/rape as less of a concern because it doesn't happen as often as a jaywalking.

In case you don't know, nutrition is a problem in the larger sense of numbers, but it is NOT the same as shooting your kid full of dope. That you can't see a difference is disturbing. One should not be brought up in the context of the other, but that's what this ad does.
 

Amused

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There is no reason to feed your kids burgers. None what so ever.

So beef, bread, lettuce, tomato and cheese are not valid and healthy foods?

Complete and utter bullshit.

The key to a healthy diet is all foods in balance and moderation. Beef, bread, lettuce, tomato and cheese are ALL part of a balanced and healthy diet.

I'll take mine with onions, too.
 
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I'm glad you aren't a prosecuting attorney who sees a murder/rape as less of a concern because it doesn't happen as often as a jaywalking.

In case you don't know, nutrition is a problem in the larger sense of numbers, but it is NOT the same as shooting your kid full of dope. That you can't see a difference is disturbing. One should not be brought up in the context of the other, but that's what this ad does.

I just love how you're condemning me for comparing junk food to heroin while yourself comparing the obesity epidemic to jaywalking.
 

sandorski

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A little over the top, but not inappropriate. The occasional Burger isn't a problem, but when it becomes a common Meal it is a problem.
 

Hayabusa Rider

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I just love how you're condemning me for comparing junk food to heroin while yourself comparing the obesity epidemic to jaywalking.

And here I was comparing a serious but less often seen crime with another which results in harm to a greater number of people- murder/rape and jaywalking.


That's where you are just plain strange. You pick numbers as proof of the degree of seriousness while ignoring the impact each act has. Your line of reasoning is lacking in completeness. Seriously, if someone took an axe to your loved one you would see it as being equivalent to being handed a burger? How whacked.

So which is worse, giving a kid a burger or a shot of heroin? I bet you won't answer the question, but go on some obfuscating tangent.

Obesity and addiction are separate problems. Both are serious, but to conflate the two is nonsense.
 

Hayabusa Rider

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A little over the top, but not inappropriate. The occasional Burger isn't a problem, but when it becomes a common Meal it is a problem.

Finally there's some sense being expressed when you say that it's the frequency of bad food being consumed which is a problem. My issue is the insistence of linking the two based on numbers alone.
 

theeedude

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So beef, bread, lettuce, tomato and cheese are not valid and healthy foods?

Complete and utter bullshit.

The key to a healthy diet is all foods in balance and moderation. Beef, bread, lettuce, tomato and cheese are ALL part of a balanced and healthy diet.

I'll take mine with onions, too.

Yeah, balanced and healthy food, to be sure:
Whopper with cheese:
Nutrition Facts
Serving Size 1 serving (315.0 g)
Amount Per Serving
Calories 760 Calories from Fat 423
% Daily Value*
Total Fat 47.0g 72%
Saturated Fat 16.0g 80%
Cholesterol 115mg 38%
Sodium 1450mg 60%
Total Carbohydrates 52.0g 17%
Dietary Fiber 3.0g 12%
Sugars 11.0g
Protein 33.0g
Vitamin A 15% • Vitamin C 15%
Calcium 25% • Iron 30%

half the calories from fat, 80% of sat fat in 1 burger is balance in a nutshell.
 

bfdd

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Yeah, balanced and healthy food, to be sure:


half the calories from fat, 80% of sat fat in 1 burger is balance in a nutshell.

You do realize that Burger King, McDonalds, all those other fast food places aren't the only place you can get a burger right?
 

ShawnD1

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God damn liberal fucks. If they would just tell the truth about fast food, someone might actually listen. To say or imply that it's always bad all the time is just a blatant lie.

When I worked at McDonalds, only 2 of the people working there were fat. The rest of us were pretty skinny. I gained quite a bit of muscle when I worked there. Standing for 8 hours, running around doing shit, and lifting 40 pound jugs of cooking oil is way more physical than my current job. One of the perks of working there during the night shift was that we could make free food for ourselves, yet we never seemed to gain any fat. Maybe it was because we were exercising. Mopping the floor is physical, picking up trash around the building is physical, lifting boxes of meat is physical, etc. Eating McGarbage every day had no effect on our physical appearance.
 

bfdd

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I'm going to make a new commercial, I'm going to compare sitting on the sofa doing nothing to smoking meth. Both kill. A sedentary lifestyle is far more dangerous to your health than eating one to many burgers every now and then.
 

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We are having an epidemic of childhood obesity and diabetes, not a time to be mincing words about junk food. You can argue that eating a hamburger does not always lead to diabetes and obesity. So what, drunk driving does not always lead to a crash either. Goal is to reduce uptake of junk food, not eliminate it.
What they fuck?
 

ShawnD1

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So beef, bread, lettuce, tomato and cheese are not valid and healthy foods?

Complete and utter bullshit.

The key to a healthy diet is all foods in balance and moderation. Beef, bread, lettuce, tomato and cheese are ALL part of a balanced and healthy diet.

I'll take mine with onions, too.

Dont worry, I'm sure uneducated liberals will come up with excuses for why every single ingredient on a burger is evil.
bread - omg fucking carbs
mustard - as in mustard gas? no thanks
ketchup - with added sugar! evil!
onions - since they smell weird, they're obviously bad for you
pickles - so much salt
cheese - it's so high in fat
burger - humans don't even need protein or cholesterol to survive!

Obviously we should make every one of these illegal. It's for the kids.

The other thing that's interesting is that the caesar salad at McDonalds is crazy high in calories. The shrubbery doesn't have any calories, but the caesar dressing is very high in fat. It's also delicious and I love it.
 
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And here I was comparing a serious but less often seen crime with another which results in harm to a greater number of people- murder/rape and jaywalking.


That's where you are just plain strange. You pick numbers as proof of the degree of seriousness while ignoring the impact each act has. Your line of reasoning is lacking in completeness. Seriously, if someone took an axe to your loved one you would see it as being equivalent to being handed a burger? How whacked.

So which is worse, giving a kid a burger or a shot of heroin? I bet you won't answer the question, but go on some obfuscating tangent.

Obesity and addiction are separate problems. Both are serious, but to conflate the two is nonsense.

You're one to make accusations of strangeness with your posts on banning hamburgers peppered throughout other threads and trumping any symbolism in the commercial by likening a burger to someone chopping up my loved ones. It's like heroin is your pet addiction and have gone mental that something else dares kill more people. You say that doesn't matter and then accuse me of ignoring the impact. You're off your nut dude, but you're not the only one judging from other posts in this thread. You and everyone else feel free to discount and ignore this epidemic. Hell, eat more junk food just to spite this commercial. I'm sure the makers will cry in their tofu over you eating yourselves to an even earlier grave.
 

ElFenix

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The other thing that's interesting is that the caesar salad at McDonalds is crazy high in calories. The shrubbery doesn't have any calories, but the caesar dressing is very high in fat. It's also delicious and I love it.
i read an article one day about how college girls thought they ate healthy, even though ~80% of their calories were from fat. sure, they ate salads. covered in cheese and dressing.
 

DominionSeraph

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Fast food is addictive.

I haven't eaten a fast food burger in a couple years. But when I pass a Wendys, McDonalds, or Burger King, I get a craving, even if I just ate. Being an ex-smoker, I recognize the impulse. It ain't hunger, it's scoring a hit.
My impulse doesn't correlate to my taste preference, either. I much prefer Burger King over McDonalds (remembering the experience of biting into a McDonalds burger when I've forgotten to order it without onions makes me sick to my stomach), but my craving for McDonalds is MUCH greater.
I can pass a Jack-in-the-Box with no feeling whatsoever. I've also never eaten at one. Coincidence?

The thought of my favorite meals at my favorite restaurants doesn't give the same craving. When I pass the Tex-Mex place I choose for my birthday meal and I think of their Burrito Grande, the feeling is one of good/enjoyment/satisfaction, not a sudden, sharp high-amplitude short-duration pang that the thought of a fatty burger gives. (And my current diet is not short of fat/salt/protein. I cook up 20% fat burgers all the time, salt the crap outta them, served with a plate full of greasy home fries. But those, too, are just good. There's none of that addictive craving associated.)

There's a reason McDonalds are everywhere, and it ain't because they serve fulfilling food.
 

ShawnD1

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Why wouldn't mcdicks be filling? I can barely finish a big mac. It's not even a big burger.