Another botched execution, this time took 2 hours for him to die

[boomerang]

I think that they are also not using medications that are affective.

They are not because they have become unavailable for political reasons. Every time I expound on that more in these threads, people get all worked up about it. Forget the reasons why. The fact is that they are not available anymore. New drugs need to be found but even then, people are going to fight against their approval.

Making these drugs not available is not the way to go about eliminating capital punishment and that is the goal behind it. You get the laws changed. You do not choose a course of action that results in these situations. This does not help your cause it hurts your cause.

I've said this before. These delayed deaths from lethal injection are on the heads of those who lobbied drug manufacturers to cease sale of these drugs for the purpose of lethal injection and on the heads of those companies that capitulated.

 

[desy]

Yep Texas could mass execute 50 a day, 40 of them guilty

 

[Texashiker]

Yep Texas could mass execute 50 a day, 40 of them guilty

Place the blame where it belongs, on the jury.

Too many people feel if a person is charged with a crime they must be guilty.

 

[highland145]

Place the blame where it belongs, on the jury.

Too many people feel if a person is charged with a crime they must be guilty.

Why not the DA/cops that fake, hide evidence, lie?

 

[Texashiker]

Why not the DA/cops that fake, hide evidence, lie?

Blame them to.

 

[werepossum]

Now you're putting words into my mouth.

Empathy is not required to show a shred of human decency and adherence to the law.

Agreed, lack of empathy to a double murderer /= lack of humanity. And lack of sympathy for a double murderer /= lack of humanity. As for law, the law was followed.

Why not the DA/cops that fake, hide evidence, lie?

Because they have guns?

 

[highland145]

Because they have guns?

Might makes right. Money too.

There really should be an equivalency of punishment for DAs/cops that intentionally get an innocent guy convicted but I've never heard of it happening.

 

[CitizenKain]

Place the blame where it belongs, on the jury.

Too many people feel if a person is charged with a crime they must be guilty.

The blame belongs on the people of Texas. I use the term people loosely here.

 

[Texashiker]

The blame belongs on the people of Texas. I use the term people loosely here.

Yep, I agree.

We should be demanding an assembly line instead of this one a month bull crap.

 

[BoberFett]

The blame belongs on the people of Texas. I use the term people loosely here.

I'm anti-death-penalty, but you're still an asshole, and I'd rather live in a world full of Texans than shit stains you.

 

[blankslate]

Modern Day guillotine if we must execute people. It is something that just putting people to sleep prevents society from really confronting (rightly or wrongly) exactly what execution really entails.

I'm not strictly against execution of really outrageous criminals.

However, there have been enough instances of people on death row who were later exonerated to make me believe that there are still too many shens committed by prosecutors (along with overloaded public defenders) today.

Because of that, I'm inclined to say that we cannot trust our society or governmental institutions put in place by it yet to keep from killing too many people who didn't commit the crime for which they are being executed for.



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[Hugo Drax]

Breaking: Arizona attorney general says death row inmate is dead after nearly 2 hours execution started

70 minutes in gave time for attorneys to file a stay for execution. They pleaded for them to stop as he gasped for breath and snored, and heaved and groaned during the two hours.

Link to the tweets that were going on

So what. I bet the victims of this guy did not get any special treatment.

I am not going to lose sleep over this.

 

[rudder]

Give them a OD of morphine and call it a day.

No shit.... Philipp Seymour Hoffman died painlessly. There is plenty of heroin in police lockers all over the country. We don't even have to waste money on hospital grade morphine.

 

[CitizenKain]

I'm anti-death-penalty, but you're still an asshole, and I'd rather live in a world full of Texans than shit stains you.

Its ok Bober, there won't be rooms in the work camps for you with all the Texans in there.

 

[soulcougher73]

I for one love caring about people who don't care about people.. Makes total sense..

 

[uclabachelor]

Those of you who are against this execution should go read what he did to his victims...

I'm all against cruel and unusual punishment, but this murderer's victims got it worse than he did.

 

[BurnItDwn]

There have been many cases in the history of this country where the wrong person was convicted for a crime. Because of that, the government should not risk executions as they might kill an innocent person.

This is not about wanting a guilty person to not be dead or to not suffer, its about not wanting to risk hurting another innocent person due to mistaken identity or corrupt police or judge or any other thing that can go wrong.

We really need to end the barbaric practice of the death penalty, it is obsolete, cruel, and inhumane.

 

[zinfamous]

Death penalty, the only punishment that is 100% effective.

People who are put to death are guaranteed to never harm another human being,,, ever. No other rehabilitation program offers a 100% rate.

people still murder, knowing they could face the death penalty.

obviously it is not effective. The point of punishment is to deter and prevent future crime. But of course you knew that.

wait, no you didn't. You think on simple terms.

as for this....eh, meh, whatever. I think the Death Penalty is pointless in the end, our system is screwed to all hell and there is simply no way one can support an institution that has, and will continue to execute innocent people.

That being said, I don't really have a problem with irrefutably proven murderers, or worse, getting killed. But you guys have to realize that your support of alternatives, many of which are tantamount to torture, are banned in our constitution thingy. No better method has ever really been developed that is more humane than the guillitine, if you ask me...but I think that just seems "icky" to people? And be that as it me, the courts seem to have interpreted that as cruel and unusual. whatever--that pesky constitution, yet again.


I thought you guys were constitutional warriors? Or, uh, is it just the couple of parts that you actually have the patience to read/other people tell you are important?

 

[cabri]

people still murder, knowing they could face the death penalty.

obviously it is not effective. The point of punishment is to deter and prevent future crime.

when the penalty is delayed, negotiated or voided, the impact has less meaning as a deterrent.

 

[zinfamous]

when the penalty is delayed, negotiated or voided, the impact has less meaning as a deterrent.

lol.

Centuries ago, England used to Boil people alive with very little delay. far more heinous methods had been devised, and far less obstacles were in place to exact that..."justice."

Such crimes continued on. They still happen. The death penalty didn't just shit out of some prosecutor's brain in the last couple of decades. It has been around as long as civilization, and the crimes that have forever been attached to it have likewise continued.

 

[Jaepheth]

1. I'm generally against giving the government the power to kill its citizens (You don't trust them to run a nationalized healthcare, but you'll let them outright kill people? Especially given that innocent people have been and probably are now on death row. Our system is supposed to be set up on the idea that it's better to let 10 guilty people go free than to convict a single innocent)

2. If deterrent is the primary driving force, then why aren't executions public?

3. Exit bags are cheap, 100% guaranteed to kill, and pain free. You just go to sleep and stop living. (e.g. gas chamber of something like helium or sulfur hexaflouride.)

 

[feralkid]

I for one love caring about people who don't care about people.. Makes total sense..

No kidding! Jesus Christ, where did people learn this "compassion for all people" shit?

Oh...wait.

 

[CitizenKain]

when the penalty is delayed, negotiated or voided, the impact has less meaning as a deterrent.

What you are saying is you want more innocent people to die so you can feel better.

 

[Babbles]

when the penalty is delayed, negotiated or voided, the impact has less meaning as a deterrent.

It is not supposed to be a deterrent. It is a punishment. The closest thing to a deterrent would be punitive damages in a civil suit.

 

[nehalem256]

There have been many cases in the history of this country where the wrong person was convicted for a crime. Because of that, the government should not risk executions as they might kill an innocent person.

This is not about wanting a guilty person to not be dead or to not suffer, its about not wanting to risk hurting another innocent person due to mistaken identity or corrupt police or judge or any other thing that can go wrong.

Oh really?

We really need to end the barbaric practice of the death penalty, it is obsolete, cruel, and inhumane.

Because it seems in the very next sentence you contradicted that claim.