Another botched execution, this time took 2 hours for him to die

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cabri

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What you are saying is you want more innocent people to die so you can feel better.
Way to many people are killed by those that there is incontrovertible evidence than are then executed by the state.
And those that have the evidence are allowed to live their life in prison, plea bargain (ask why they want to plead?) or avoid prison itself.

That is justice for the victims?

The death penalty has minimal meaning due to the fact that for criminals, it becomes a joke.

Crime becomes a slap on the wrist and do not do it again attitude.
The system has been corrupted by those that do not want justice at all costs.
 

cabri

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It is not supposed to be a deterrent. It is a punishment. The closest thing to a deterrent would be punitive damages in a civil suit.

A civil suit has no value to one that has no assets.
How many people on death row paid for their lawyers.

It also does not bring back a person who had their life taken by one that has no compulsion on taking a life.
 
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No kidding! Jesus Christ, where did people learn this "compassion for all people" shit?

Oh...wait.

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Sorry im not religious. I only care about decent human beings. Murders can get shot for all i care.
 

Babbles

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A civil suit has no value to one that has no assets.
How many people on death row paid for their lawyers.

I don't think individuals typically get hit with punitive damages - I'm not really sure what point, if any, you are trying to make.

It also does not bring back a person who had their life taken by one that has no compulsion on taking a life.
Umm. . . . no shit?
 

CitizenKain

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Way to many people are killed by those that there is incontrovertible evidence than are then executed by the state.
And those that have the evidence are allowed to live their life in prison, plea bargain (ask why they want to plead?) or avoid prison itself.

That is justice for the victims?

The death penalty has minimal meaning due to the fact that for criminals, it becomes a joke.

Crime becomes a slap on the wrist and do not do it again attitude.
The system has been corrupted by those that do not want justice at all costs.

No, you want revenge at all costs, you don't give a shit about justice. Just admit that you want people to die who you think are bad, and that makes you feel better. At least you'd be honest.
 

werepossum

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No, you want revenge at all costs, you don't give a shit about justice. Just admit that you want people to die who you think are bad, and that makes you feel better. At least you'd be honest.
Um, no. There are lots of people we think are bad without wanting them dead. The difference is that if those people are convicted murderers, then that is justice.
 

hal2kilo

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Where's Dr. Kavorkian when you really need his skills. Oh, yea, he's no longer with us.
 

Drako

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Just bring back the Guillotine. Painless and quick. Plus you can pull the head out the basket when it's done and show it around the room. :thumbsup:
 

TheSiege

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Who cares what his crime was? Cruel and unusual punishment is unconstitutional, just like your right to a jury. Should we forgo these rights if someone is a accused or convicted of murder? What about for theft or burglary? Where does it end. Regardless of what he did or didn't do, he has rights.
 
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Capital punishment is barbaric, but that doesn't matter to barbarians, apparently.

The deeds of the perp are immaterial to that judgment.

The incredible expense involved in execution deters the truly rational from condoning it at all, but barbarians aren't exactly rational anyway.

Lots of other more constructive ways to spend the money while the perp lives out his days in lockup, away from the rest of us. Or is no price too steep to pay for vengeance?

it's not about vengeance, it's about deterring future violence.
jail isn't enough.
swift and painful response is
 

HOSED

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Place the offender in solitary confinement, fully restrained, no food, water, exercise until death. problem solved!
~~~ TheSiege IF child rapists can avoid prison because they are DuPont heirs and would not fare well in prison the entire (in)justice system is already broken. Maybe it is time for a constitutional change??
 
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TheSiege

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Place the offender in solitary confinement, fully restrained, no food, water, exercise until death. problem solved!
~~~ TheSiege IF child rapists can avoid prison because they are DuPont heirs and would not fare well in prison the entire (in)justice system is already broken. Maybe it is time for a constitutional change??

You are talking about an exception rather than a rule. The majority of cases never go to trial, and the ones that do, the majority of those get a fair and honest verdict. You dont rebuild a house due to a broken window. You fix the window.