Another botched execution, this time took 2 hours for him to die

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Breaking: Arizona attorney general says death row inmate is dead after nearly 2 hours execution started

70 minutes in gave time for attorneys to file a stay for execution. They pleaded for them to stop as he gasped for breath and snored, and heaved and groaned during the two hours.

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Another botched execution, this time took 2 hours for him to die

Breaking: Arizona attorney general says death row inmate is dead after nearly 2 hours execution started

70 minutes in gave time for attorneys to file a stay for execution. They pleaded for them to stop as he gasped for breath and snored, and heaved and groaned during the two hours.

Link to the tweets that were going on

Seriously this is just so out of hand.

Just bring back the guillotine, absolutely no way to not be effective.
 

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Aww, a double murderer doesn't get to just comfortably go to sleep forever.


Matt while we are at it, why don't we just bring back torture, and make a TV show about it? I mean seriously dude, we don't live in the dark ages.
 

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i read that they use the FEMORAL artery for the lethal injection... that's insane

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no wonder they keep botching the shit....you know how deep that artery is? and they have to keep an IV there?
 

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i read that they use the FEMORAL artery for the lethal injection... that's insane

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no wonder they keep botching the shit....you know how deep that artery is? and they have to keep an IV there?

Generally you have to be an experienced doctor generally an anesthesiologist to properly insert an IV into the femoral artery. They have already said in many news reports that they use people that are not very skilled and they make many newb mistakes. I think that they are also not using medications that are affective. But honestly this is going to get Arizona and others states into hot water. This isn't going to go away, and every inmate that dies like this is going to kick off another fire storm. They better get their shit together or this is going to be challenged again. This is a pure violation of the inmates constitutional rights to be free from cruel and unusual punishments no matter how people feel about their crimes.
 

highland145

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Assuming the circumstances/case are as presented...20 years on the upside after a double murder, 2 hours on the down. 2hrs / 175200hrs...more than fair for the killer.

Defendant shot and killed his estranged girlfriend Debra Dietz ("Debra") and her father Eugene Dietz ("Eugene") on Monday, August 7, 1989, at a Tucson automotive paint and body shop ("the shop") owned and operated by the Dietz family.
Since 1984, Defendant and Debra had maintained a tumultuous relationship increasingly marred by Defendant's abusive and violent behavior. Eugene generally disapproved of this relationship but did not actively interfere. In fact, the Dietz family often included Defendant in dinners and other activities. Several times, however, Eugene refused to let Defendant visit Debra during business hours while she was working at the shop. Defendant disliked Eugene and told him he would "get him back" and that Eugene would "be sorry."
Debra had rented an apartment that she shared with Defendant. Because Defendant was seldom employed, Debra supported him financially. Defendant nevertheless assaulted Debra periodically.1 She finally tried to end the relationship after a fight during the 1989 July 4th weekend. She left her apartment and moved in with her parents, saying "I don't want any more of this." After Debra left, Defendant ransacked and vandalized the apartment. She obtained an order of protection against Defendant on July 8, 1989. In the following weeks, however, Defendant repeatedly tried to contact Debra at the shop, her parents' home, and her apartment.2
Debra and Eugene drove together to work at the shop early on Monday morning, August 7, 1989. Defendant phoned the shop three times that morning. Debra hung up on him once, and Eugene hung up on him twice. Defendant called again and asked another employee if Debra and Eugene were at the shop. The employee said that they had temporarily left but would return soon. Debra and Eugene came back at 8:30 a.m. and began working in different areas of the shop. Six other employees were also present that morning.
At 8:50 a.m., a Tucson Police officer saw Defendant driving in a suspicious manner near the shop. The officer slowed her patrol car and made eye contact with Defendant as he left his truck and entered the shop. Eugene was on the telephone in an area where three other employees were working. Defendant waited for Eugene to hang up, drew a revolver, and approached to within four feet of him. The other employees shouted for Defendant to put the gun away. Without saying a word, Defendant fatally shot Eugene once in the chest and then smiled. When the police officer saw this from her patrol car she immediately called for more officers. Defendant left the shop, but quickly returned and again pointed his revolver at
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the now supine Eugene. Donald Dietz, an employee and Eugene's seventy-year-old brother, struggled with Defendant, who then ran to the area where Debra had been working. Debra had apparently heard an employee shout that her father had been shot and was trying to telephone for help when Defendant grabbed her around the neck from behind and placed his revolver directly against her chest. Debra struggled and screamed, "No, Joe, don't!" Another employee heard Defendant say, "I told you I was going to do it, I have to kill you." Defendant then called Debra a "bitch" and shot her twice in the chest.
Several police officers were already on the scene when Defendant left the shop after shooting Debra. Two officers ordered him to put his hands up. Defendant complied and dropped his weapon, but then grabbed it and began raising it toward the officers. After again ordering Defendant to raise his hands, the officers shot Defendant several times.
A grand jury indicted Defendant on two counts of first degree murder and two counts of aggravated assault against the officers. Although he did not testify, Defendant did not dispute his role in the killings but argued he had acted impulsively and without premeditation. A jury found Defendant guilty on all counts. The trial court sentenced him to death for each of the murders and to concurrent fifteen-year prison terms for the aggravated assaults, to be served consecutively to the death sentences. This appeal followed.
 

highland145

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i read that they use the FEMORAL artery for the lethal injection... that's insane




no wonder they keep botching the shit....you know how deep that artery is? and they have to keep an IV there?
That shit ain't deep. I can see the throb just above my knee and further up my thigh. YMMV if there's an extra 75lbs.
 

zanejohnson

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That shit ain't deep. I can see the throb just above my knee and further up my thigh. YMMV if there's an extra 75lbs.

guess it's hugely dependent on body type


i'm decent sized guy 5'10, 200lbs...... cant see mine at all, cant even feel for mine... (and i'm good, i used to be an IV drug user)
 

Greenman

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So the guy slept for two hours before his heart stopped? That doesn't seem all that horrible to me.
 

highland145

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or just use whatever method of execution they had previously demonstrated as their method of choice
That works. I'm not interested in seeing an eye for an eye but I'm not going to shed one tear for this guy. He should have been capped 20 years ago when the evidence/proof was clear. Like it still is.
 
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classy

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What is a botched execution anyway? If he is suppose to die, just keeping trying till he is dead.
 

zanejohnson

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oh yeah, def not defending the execution of this man either....

just the method..

opiod overdose would probably the most humane way, 1mg Fentanyl, they'd be dead in seconds after the injection.
 

highland145

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guess it's hugely dependent on body type


i'm decent sized guy 5'10, 200lbs...... cant see mine at all, cant even feel for mine... (and i'm good, i used to be an IV drug user)
Really? I guess YMMV if you're not a professional. I can see mine in my ankles, wrists, legs, forearms ...always have. If I sit still, I can count my pulse.


Where did they stick you when the great fungus was trying to eat you?
 

highland145

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What is a botched execution anyway? If he is suppose to die, just keeping trying till he is dead.
With my Dad's emphysema, they gave him morphine for 3 days (every 4 hrs) with no fluids until he died from organ failure. Pretty humane, right?
 

Oldgamer

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Really? I guess YMMV if you're not a professional. I can see mine in my ankles, wrists, legs, forearms ...always have. If I sit still, I can count my pulse.


Where did they stick you when the great fungus was trying to eat you?


/rollseyes
 

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I don't know how much I like the idea of the government having the right to kill citizens, but I can't help but wonder how much the media trumps up this stuff. The guy snorted while he was asleep and took longer to die than expected. I doubt he suffered from the procedure any more than a 'successful' execution. Hardly an eight amendment issue.