Another blue state crumbles

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The bottom just fell out of the state budget.

A new state forecast released this morning estimates tax revenues will drop an additional $1.9 billion below projections.

If that number holds true, state lawmakers could face about a $5 billion shortfall when they meet in January to put together a new two-year budget. That's up from a $3.2 billion gap projected in September.

"This is as bad as I've ever seen it," said Victor Moore, the governor's budget director.

Growth in state tax revenues have fallen sharply in recent months as the national economic downturn has gotten worse. Washington isn't the only state in this fix. Throughout the country, state governments are projecting large budget shortfalls.

The new forecast projects the state will bring in $500 million less than expected in the current two-year budget, and revenues will be down an additional $1.4 billion in the 2009-11 budget. Moore said some of the shortfall in the current budget will likely slop over into the next two-year budget. That, combined with increases in the social-services caseload and public school enrollment, will likely boost the total shortfall to around $5 billion. Assuming things don't get worse.

Gov. Christine Gregoire has announced several steps in recent weeks to reduce state spending including a freeze on hiring, out-of-state travel, personal service contracts and equipment purchases.

The governor's budget office also has told agencies to prepare for deep budget cuts. The state's colleges and universities are preparing for cuts up to 20 percent, or $600 million over two years.

The current two-year general fund budget is $33.6 billion. State spending has increased by $8 billion since Gregoire was elected governor in 2004. Half of that money, around $4 billion, was spent on public schools and higher education.


And they just re-elected their governor.....seems like these people aren't too bright.
 

James Bond

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Originally posted by: winnar111
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The bottom just fell out of the state budget.

A new state forecast released this morning estimates tax revenues will drop an additional $1.9 billion below projections.

If that number holds true, state lawmakers could face about a $5 billion shortfall when they meet in January to put together a new two-year budget. That's up from a $3.2 billion gap projected in September.

"This is as bad as I've ever seen it," said Victor Moore, the governor's budget director.

Growth in state tax revenues have fallen sharply in recent months as the national economic downturn has gotten worse. Washington isn't the only state in this fix. Throughout the country, state governments are projecting large budget shortfalls.

The new forecast projects the state will bring in $500 million less than expected in the current two-year budget, and revenues will be down an additional $1.4 billion in the 2009-11 budget. Moore said some of the shortfall in the current budget will likely slop over into the next two-year budget. That, combined with increases in the social-services caseload and public school enrollment, will likely boost the total shortfall to around $5 billion. Assuming things don't get worse.

Gov. Christine Gregoire has announced several steps in recent weeks to reduce state spending including a freeze on hiring, out-of-state travel, personal service contracts and equipment purchases.

The governor's budget office also has told agencies to prepare for deep budget cuts. The state's colleges and universities are preparing for cuts up to 20 percent, or $600 million over two years.

The current two-year general fund budget is $33.6 billion. State spending has increased by $8 billion since Gregoire was elected governor in 2004. Half of that money, around $4 billion, was spent on public schools and higher education.


And they just re-elected their governor.....seems like these people aren't too bright.

No fucking shit. I don't know how she got re-elected.... I live in the city, and literally everyone I know was voting for Rossi (R). I was thrilled to see Obama get elected, but really, really disappointed when I saw that Gregoire pulled it off... again.

How do shitty politicians get re-elected? Do people really just vote blindly term after term, and pay no attention to what happened previously?
 

Deeko

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I voted for Rossi. However, while Washington is a very "blue state", we have very "red" laws, such as no state/local income tax, explicit ban on gay marriage, comparatively lax gun control laws, etc.

So go ahead, pull some partisan BS out of your ass, but Washington is a blue state that tries to act like a red state, so per your own logic, the ways of the red states are failing in WA. I don't look at it that way - just responding to your asinine title.
 

Deeko

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Originally posted by: James Bond

No fucking shit. I don't know how she got re-elected.... I live in the city, and literally everyone I know was voting for Rossi (R). I was thrilled to see Obama get elected, but really, really disappointed when I saw that Gregoire pulled it off... again.

How do shitty politicians get re-elected? Do people really just vote blindly term after term, and pay no attention to what happened previously?

A) Rossi ran a terrible campaign. His commercials made me want to vote for Gregoire. Groups that supported him ran 529 ads that made me want to vote for Gregoire. All in all...his campaign sucked.

B) It was very easy for democrats to run on the "he's another George Bush Republican" platform

I watched some of their debates, and Rossi definitely seemed more poised and better in control of the issues - he got beat by the campaign process.
 

James Bond

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Originally posted by: Deeko
Originally posted by: James Bond

No fucking shit. I don't know how she got re-elected.... I live in the city, and literally everyone I know was voting for Rossi (R). I was thrilled to see Obama get elected, but really, really disappointed when I saw that Gregoire pulled it off... again.

How do shitty politicians get re-elected? Do people really just vote blindly term after term, and pay no attention to what happened previously?

A) Rossi ran a terrible campaign. His commercials made me want to vote for Gregoire. Groups that supported him ran 529 ads that made me want to vote for Gregoire. All in all...his campaign sucked.

B) It was very easy for democrats to run on the "he's another George Bush Republican" platform

I watched some of their debates, and Rossi definitely seemed more poised and better in control of the issues - he got beat by the campaign process.

Completely agree.
 

Deeko

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Originally posted by: ChunkiMunki
wouldn't there still be a budget crisis if Rossi had won?

Rossi wasn't governor for the last 4 years, Gregoire was, what's your point?
 

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Could be worse. Our Democratic Governor in Illinois often runs at 15-20% approval rating, dipping even down to 4% last month! :eek: Massive budget problems in this state.
 
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Originally posted by: winnar111
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The bottom just fell out of the state budget.

A new state forecast released this morning estimates tax revenues will drop an additional $1.9 billion below projections.

If that number holds true, state lawmakers could face about a $5 billion shortfall when they meet in January to put together a new two-year budget. That's up from a $3.2 billion gap projected in September.

"This is as bad as I've ever seen it," said Victor Moore, the governor's budget director.

Growth in state tax revenues have fallen sharply in recent months as the national economic downturn has gotten worse. Washington isn't the only state in this fix. Throughout the country, state governments are projecting large budget shortfalls.

The new forecast projects the state will bring in $500 million less than expected in the current two-year budget, and revenues will be down an additional $1.4 billion in the 2009-11 budget. Moore said some of the shortfall in the current budget will likely slop over into the next two-year budget. That, combined with increases in the social-services caseload and public school enrollment, will likely boost the total shortfall to around $5 billion. Assuming things don't get worse.

Gov. Christine Gregoire has announced several steps in recent weeks to reduce state spending including a freeze on hiring, out-of-state travel, personal service contracts and equipment purchases.

The governor's budget office also has told agencies to prepare for deep budget cuts. The state's colleges and universities are preparing for cuts up to 20 percent, or $600 million over two years.

The current two-year general fund budget is $33.6 billion. State spending has increased by $8 billion since Gregoire was elected governor in 2004. Half of that money, around $4 billion, was spent on public schools and higher education.


And they just re-elected their governor.....seems like these people aren't too bright.

I haven't voted for her in the last two elections, don't blame me.
 

winnar111

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Originally posted by: Deeko

So go ahead, pull some partisan BS out of your ass, but Washington is a blue state that tries to act like a red state, so per your own logic, the ways of the red states are failing in WA. I don't look at it that way - just responding to your asinine title.

Given how great Texas is doing thanks to Bush and Perry, looks like they aren't trying properly! :laugh:
 

winnar111

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Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: winnar111
Topic Title: Another blue state crumbles
Topic Summary: Bye Washington!

Ooooh please say you live there and you will leave

No, but the Sonics did. The Democrats ran em out of town.
 

Jaskalas

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Originally posted by: ChunkiMunki
wouldn't there still be a budget crisis if Rossi had won?

When you're in a hole, stop digging.

Your argument is like, HEY! Bush already got us into Iraq, let's keep him!
 

Atreus21

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Originally posted by: James Bond
Originally posted by: winnar111
http://seattletimes.nwsource.c...m.html?syndication=rss

The bottom just fell out of the state budget.

A new state forecast released this morning estimates tax revenues will drop an additional $1.9 billion below projections.

If that number holds true, state lawmakers could face about a $5 billion shortfall when they meet in January to put together a new two-year budget. That's up from a $3.2 billion gap projected in September.

"This is as bad as I've ever seen it," said Victor Moore, the governor's budget director.

Growth in state tax revenues have fallen sharply in recent months as the national economic downturn has gotten worse. Washington isn't the only state in this fix. Throughout the country, state governments are projecting large budget shortfalls.

The new forecast projects the state will bring in $500 million less than expected in the current two-year budget, and revenues will be down an additional $1.4 billion in the 2009-11 budget. Moore said some of the shortfall in the current budget will likely slop over into the next two-year budget. That, combined with increases in the social-services caseload and public school enrollment, will likely boost the total shortfall to around $5 billion. Assuming things don't get worse.

Gov. Christine Gregoire has announced several steps in recent weeks to reduce state spending including a freeze on hiring, out-of-state travel, personal service contracts and equipment purchases.

The governor's budget office also has told agencies to prepare for deep budget cuts. The state's colleges and universities are preparing for cuts up to 20 percent, or $600 million over two years.

The current two-year general fund budget is $33.6 billion. State spending has increased by $8 billion since Gregoire was elected governor in 2004. Half of that money, around $4 billion, was spent on public schools and higher education.


And they just re-elected their governor.....seems like these people aren't too bright.

No fucking shit. I don't know how she got re-elected.... I live in the city, and literally everyone I know was voting for Rossi (R). I was thrilled to see Obama get elected, but really, really disappointed when I saw that Gregoire pulled it off... again.

How do shitty politicians get re-elected? Do people really just vote blindly term after term, and pay no attention to what happened previously?

Ask the folks from my side of town about William Jefferson, the man caught on tape accepting a bribe.
 

Harvey

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Originally posted by: winnar111

And they just re-elected their governor.....seems like these people aren't too bright.

How can you lay fault for the state's fiscal shortfall on the governor or the voters of Washington when the same problems are happening nation wide? If you want to lay some blame, try putting it where it belongs, on your Traitor In Chief and his criminal cabal who squandered the lives of 4,201 American troops (as of today) and trillions of dollars in current and future debt and doubled their horrific inpact on the economy by deregulating their wealthy Wall Street robber barron contribuors and abandoning any remaining oversight over the financial mess.

We're finally about to dump them, but the damage they've done to this nation, ethically, morally and financially will be a burden on our great great grandchildren long after we're gone from this planet.

You were stupid enough to pimp them for the last eight years and his McShameful wannabe clone and the his brain dead wannabe running mate to follow, and you're stupid enough to pimp nothing but bigotry in the Prop 8 threads. In other words, given the choice of being one of the good guys or being an intellectual, political, moral or ethical turd, you've been, and you continue to be, on the wrong side of every issue. You're hardly the sharpest crayon in the box, let alone qualified to comment about anyone else's intellectual abilities. :thumbsdown:
 

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Deeko

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Originally posted by: winnar111
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: winnar111
Topic Title: Another blue state crumbles
Topic Summary: Bye Washington!

Ooooh please say you live there and you will leave

No, but the Sonics did. The Democrats ran em out of town.

Ohhhh, ok. So Seattle/Washington should have given them the hundreds of millions they wanted for a new arena? Yet another RED decision that cost the state. You are losing this argument, kid, you'd be better off backing out of the thread with your little tail between your legs.
 

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Originally posted by: winnar111
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: winnar111
Topic Title: Another blue state crumbles
Topic Summary: Bye Washington!

Ooooh please say you live there and you will leave

No, but the Sonics did. The Democrats ran em out of town.

Yeah the Redumblicans wanted to build the franchise some monster arena for free. Demoncrats said no. Good riddance!

Already paying for a football stadium for Seahawks owned by billionaire Paul Allen and a baseball stadium for the Mariners. If the bastards can't make a go of it let them move, who cares?
 

Deeko

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Originally posted by: wwswimming
is there state income tax in Washington ?

However, while Washington is a very "blue state", we have very "red" laws, such as no state/local income tax, explicit ban on gay marriage, comparatively lax gun control laws, etc.
 

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Government need to spend less money. You keep spending money you don't have it bites you in the ass. Surprise?
 

dmcowen674

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Originally posted by: Deeko
Originally posted by: winnar111
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: winnar111
Topic Title: Another blue state crumbles
Topic Summary: Bye Washington!

Ooooh please say you live there and you will leave

No, but the Sonics did. The Democrats ran em out of town.

Ohhhh, ok. So Seattle/Washington should have given them the hundreds of millions they wanted for a new arena? Yet another RED decision that cost the state. You are losing this argument, kid, you'd be better off backing out of the thread with your little tail between your legs.

Bout time we start running Republicans out of town. :thumbsup:

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