another asian gets butchered by black thugs

[Slew Foot]

black people in Oakland? Of course they're ghetto thugs. And douchebag Jerry Brown wants to be governor of the state. Cant wait till all of CA turns into Oakland.

 

[tcsenter]

And that's OK...? What's your angle here?

I'm saying the guy didn't exactly get beaten to death. He fell and hit his head on the concrete or something. And it was totally stupid of them to go after the perpetrators. They were alive and in the clear after getting assaulted the first time.

 

[theflyingpig]

So, what do Detroit and Oakland have in common?

 

[Syringer]

The video in the article was depressing. My parents don't venture out into the streets very often, but that just very easily could be them, or any completely innocent people out there.

I'm still a believer that most violence is targeted and done amongst gangs, but when you have to fear for your life just walking down a goddamn street, even as an old man, there is something truly disturbing and scary about this.

 

[Syringer]

I'm saying the guy didn't exactly get beaten to death. He fell and hit his head on the concrete or something. And it was totally stupid of them to go after the perpetrators. They were alive and in the clear after getting assaulted the first time.

HOW THE F do you think he fell? The wind blew him over? His head was too heavy and gravity took him off balance? He decided to do a backflip in the middle of the street and cracked his head open?

No seriously, I don't get your point. An old man is dead because of the actions of two young thugs...without them in this world, he'd be alive today.

Wow..

 

[tcsenter]

I'm saying they mutually escalated/contributed to it. What the fuck were they thinking? Someone 1/3 your age assaults you, you call the f-ing police.

These wannabe heroes tried to confront two thugs who had just assaulted them but left them alive and walked away. At that point, they put themselves in harms way of their own free will.

Put it this way...what if one of the men had just laughed and tried to push passed the old man when he confronted them? Like "get out of my way old fart before something bad happens to you." He gets pushed to one side a little, but the old fart, being an old fart, loses his balance, falls and hits his head the same way?

It changes the nature of what happened. They weren't "victims" at that point. They were participants, who happened to lose the confrontation. They decided to go after the perpetrators, perhaps thinking they would bust some martial arts moves on them or something because they're Asian and watch too many movies.

 

[SSSnail]

So, what's this "harms way" that you are so readily identified with and defend? That these thugs have the right to cause harm? Or that they can do whatever they want because they think they can? Is that what it is?

Also, where in the article did you get that the old man "hits his head"? Did you just imagine it all up to justify for the actions of these two sub-humans? Your language speaks volume, no need to reply. I'm pretty sure you were there as first hand witness because the assurance in your tone, because all I got was "The men turned on the father, knocking him to the pavement and beating him, before walking away" from the article.

Let me guess, you think it's funny and manly that these two guys walk around and punch people for no reasons right?

 

[tcsenter]

I read it in another article from two days ago. He hit his head on something (the curb, the pavement, a bench, can't recall now) when one of the guys knocked him to the ground, which caused the severe head injury.

The legal and philosophical difference between a victim and mutual participant pretty much boils down to the choice and willingness of the individual to be involved in the confrontation, or to safely walk away. They picked the former instead of the latter.

 

[SSSnail]

But that's just it, if you walk away then what will you keep walking away from? Keep walking away for the rest of your life?

Then what? "Oh, he just punched me in the face, it's alright, walk away".

Next, "Oh, it's alright, he just beat up my mom, I'd just walk away".

But regardless of what they chose, the consequences must be paid. Just because they chose to defend their RIGHT to walk down a street without getting punched in the face doesn't mean one of them have to pay for it with his life, regardless of the cause. At the very least, negligent homicide is in the book for these thugs.

Well, you keep walking away I guess...

 

[JonathanYoung]

I think tcsenter has been living in Central California for too long. You know, there are people who live in other places on this planet where there are no oppressed black people who walk around picking fights because they're mad about their lives. People from those places are not conditioned to avoid confrontations with black people in baggy pants and giant t-shirts.

The father was being a father. He saw those kids 1/3 of his age as just that, kids. He didn't know that you're supposed to avoid members of the scourge of society. If some kid punches your kid, as a father, wouldn't you confront the other kid?

 

[tcsenter]

Except that the article points out the father had to be persuaded to go down there because he knew it was gang/ghetto galore.

Its definitely manslaughter, but its not murder. Had it happened in the first confrontation, which was a bona fide assault and battery without provocation or mutual escalation, it would be murder. But they were in the clear, out of danger, free to safely contact the police and let them handle it. They chose Plan B.

I'm sorry he lost his life, but it was a stupid move.

 

[JonathanYoung]

Except that the article points out the father had to be persuaded to go down there because he knew it was gang/ghetto galore.

Point well taken.

 

[Anonemous]

woot now they get 3 meals a day and free rent.

 

[theflyingpig]

I'm sorry he lost his life

No, you're not.

 

[theflyingpig]

But that's just it, if you walk away then what will you keep walking away from? Keep walking away for the rest of your life?

Then what? "Oh, he just punched me in the face, it's alright, walk away".

Next, "Oh, it's alright, he just beat up my mom, I'd just walk away".

But regardless of what they chose, the consequences must be paid. Just because they chose to defend their RIGHT to walk down a street without getting punched in the face doesn't mean one of them have to pay for it with his life, regardless of the cause. At the very least, negligent homicide is in the book for these thugs.

Well, you keep walking away I guess...

That's the liberal mantra. Why fight when you can run? Everyone knows this.

 

[irishScott]

Hate to say it, but tcsenter has a valid point here. Unless you're willing to take someone on, in a situation like that if they walk away you let them go. That's just common sense. Sure you look like a wuss to them, who gives a shit? You give the cops their descriptions and the fucktards in in jail for assault a few days later.

That said, screw manslaughter. It's easily murder 2.

 

[TwinsenTacquito]

African Americans aren't guilty, they're untouchable. Especially African Americans that were born in and live in Africa.

 

[shocksyde]

That's the liberal mantra. Why fight when you can run? Everyone knows this.

And the conservative mantra is "Fight now, ask questions later?"

 

[shortylickens]

And the conservative mantra is "Fight now, ask questions later?"

No, it isnt.

Remember, George Dubya was not an actual conservative. He was a spoiled, ignorant daddy's boy who got shoehorned into the presidency.
Republicans need to stop going with the loud assholes and start using smart, mellow people.
Yes, loud assholes get more attention, but they rarely accomplish more tangible results.

 

[BlahBlahYouToo]

Your language speaks volume,

the expression is "speaks volumes" but your english is improving.

 

[classy]

A man is beaten to death, welcome to America. Sadly it happens everyday. Every damn day. And for every black perp there is one white one to boot.

http://www.kyw1060.com/Phila--Father-and-Son-to-Face-Additional-Charges-A/6851228

They are all tragic, but thugs are thugs, they come in all shapes, sizes, and colors. The news is full of these stories across the country. And whether its the perp or the victim, the color of the persons skin makes it no worse or better.

 

[rudder]

where does it mention they were black?
i searched the article for 'black' and firefox found nothing.
lets not jump to conclusions.

How many white boys are named Lavonte?

 

[Svnla]

......
It changes the nature of what happened. They weren't "victims" at that point. They were participants, who happened to lose the confrontation. They decided to go after the perpetrators, perhaps thinking they would bust some martial arts moves on them or something because they're Asian and watch too many movies.

Quote for pure stupidity and stereotyping <especially at the bolded part>.

So the black thugs acted that way because they are black and ate too many fried chickens?

Wait, I got it. It is ALL Bush and Republicans fault. Yup. That's it. Don't blame the perps, let someone else takes the fall.

 

[Aharami]

wonder if this will be labeled as a hate crime

 

[BlahBlahYouToo]

wonder if this will be labeled as a hate crime

why does it have to be labeled anything? just because the attacker and victim were different races?
hate crime labeling is a stupid. i don't care if they were calling him i love you or beloved patriot while pummeling him. a crime is a crime, period. it doesn't matter what is said while the crime took place.