Ann Coulter's final solution the Occupy problem: Shoot them

[Ninjahedge]

The women in my life generally agree with me that Ann Coulter is C-word material. In fact I have discussed her with my wonderful mother, and our only area of disagreement was that she finds Ann Coulter Satan's spawn, whereas I think she's just a cynical, mean person adopting a public persona as Satan's spawn. As my mom observed, though, that may be a meaningless distinction if you're on the receiving end of her firebreathing rhetoric, just as the families whose loved one just died probably don't care whether the Westboro Baptist Church is serious when it says God laughs at the death of their husbands, fathers, and children.

I have never called a woman the C-word, but I think it has a legitimate place in the profanity arsenal. I am very much an advocate of women's rights (due in no small part to being raised by a fairly brilliant female judge, who I've had the pleasure of serving as co-counsel with, on a murder case no less), but I don't think that insulates them from criticism, even if it's mean-spirited. To the contrary, it strikes me as sexist to say that women's tender ears should be protected against particular words. Honestly I think we as a culture are far too puritanical and supercilious when it comes to language anyway.

As I said above, I think the C-word is downright mild compared to the kind of hatred Ann Coulter makes millions of dollars a year to spew.

No offense, but if all of this means that a stranger on the Internet who I will never meet thinks less of me, I can live with that. I wish you well in any event.

EDIT: Oh, and thanks to davmat787 for your kind words.

You're just being a dick.........

 

[Ninjahedge]

Physician, heal theyself. Obtuseness is not a substitute for substance.

All depends on your angle....

 

[Ninjahedge]

Side note....Unless you are thinking of a really ugly person, why is "F-you" an insult?

When most men between the ages of 16-60 want just that......


Idunno.

 

[CallMeJoe]

All depends on your angle....

I have an acute suspicion you think that's not right.

 

[werepossum]

I have an acute suspicion you think that's not right.

Don't be obtuse.

 

[shira]

I see, so you I feel there are legitimate times to look like someone without any true intelligence or a proper upbringing.

Thanks for the clarification.

No, you dumb fuck, you don't call someone a wise and beautiful woman or a dumb fuck "to look like someone without any true intelligence or a proper upbringing." You call someone a dumb fuck or a wise and beautiful woman because they ARE a dumb fuck or a wise and beautiful woman, and because using EXACTLY the right term at EXACTLY the right time is EXACTLY the right thing to do. Dumb fucks and cunts almost by definition need to be called dumb fucks and cunts at every opportunity, because when someone is a dumb fuck, the truth seeps through into their reptile brains very, very slowly, and when someone is a wise and beautiful woman they're so thoroughly disgusting that you want to insult them again and again so they'll go away and never, ever come back.

And to show you just how big a dumb fuck you really are, I predict you'll produce some non sequitur as a feeble attempt at witty repartee.

 

[davmat787]

No, you dumb fuck, you don't call someone a wise and beautiful woman or a dumb fuck "to look like someone without any true intelligence or a proper upbringing." You call someone a dumb fuck or a wise and beautiful woman because they ARE a dumb fuck or a wise and beautiful woman, and because using EXACTLY the right term at EXACTLY the right time is EXACTLY the right thing to do. Dumb fucks and cunts almost by definition need to be called dumb fucks and cunts at every opportunity, because when someone is a dumb fuck, the truth seeps through into their reptile brains very, very slowly, and when someone is a wise and beautiful woman they're so thoroughly disgusting that you want to insult them again and again so they'll go away and never, ever come back.

And to show you just how big a dumb fuck you really are, I predict you'll produce some non sequitur as a feeble attempt at witty repartee.

Really? Is this how you roll and go through life? That it is your duty at every opportunity to call some a dumb fuck or a wise and beautiful woman? Is this just online, or in person? You sound like a grade A asshole. You are such a tough guy.

May I suggest you go suck start your moms fart?

 

[woolfe9999]

Really? Is this how you roll and go through life? That it is your duty at every opportunity to call some a dumb fuck or a wise and beautiful woman? Is this just online, or in person? You sound like a grade A asshole. You are such a tough guy.

May I suggest you go suck start your moms fart?

I think you missed the message. He was saying that people who ARE dumbfucks or cunts need to be called dumbfucks or cunts, not that this is generally how to interact with people or that one should look for "every opportunity" to do so. According to his logic, no one is being called these things who doesn't deserve it. It seems sort of inarguable that if it's a tree, you call it "tree." The alternative is to conceal the truth.

 

[davmat787]

I think you missed the message. He was saying that people who ARE dumbfucks or cunts need to be called dumbfucks or cunts, not that this is generally how to interact with people or that one should look for "every opportunity" to do so. According to his logic, no one is being called these things who doesn't deserve it. It seems sort of inarguable that if it's a tree, you call it "tree." The alternative is to conceal the truth.

Do you call a tree a tree every time you see one?

Oh, I got the message. And he did use the phrase "at every opportunity". If he is in the room of a bunch of high level particle and theoretical physicists, he could very well be considered a dumb fuck by their standards. Would it be right for them to call him a dumb fuck at every opportunity? To what end? Does calling someone who is mentally challenged a dumb fuck make you superior? He even uses the rationale that it might seep into their reptilian brain! How magnanimous! I'm going to call this person a wise and beautiful woman, and its for their own good so they will go away!

C'mom man! Polite and mature people know better, and I think you know that. Why not instead of calling someone a wise and beautiful woman or dumbfuck, you just silently thank your lucky stars that you are not?

 

[woolfe9999]

Do you call a tree a tree every time you see one?

Oh, I got the message. And he did use the phrase "at every opportunity". If he is in the room of a bunch of high level particle and theoretical physicists, he could very well be considered a dumb fuck by their standards. Would it be right for them to call him a dumb fuck at every opportunity? To what end? Does calling someone who is mentally challenged a dumb fuck make you superior? He even uses the rationale that it might seep into their reptilian brain! How magnanimous! I'm going to call this person a wise and beautiful woman, and its for their own good so they will go away!

C'mom man! Polite and mature people know better, and I think you know that. Why not instead of calling someone a wise and beautiful woman or dumbfuck, you just silently thank your lucky stars that you are not?

Yes, he said that you should call people who ARE dumbfucks and cunts, dumbfucks and cunts, at every opportunity. You translated it as him believing people should call people names at every opportunity. That is a considerably broader idea because it implies rather indiscriminate name calling. I'm pretty sure he's just saying that there are some people who are so bad they do not deserve respect.

I see your point about the theoretical phycisists, but I don't think he meant "someone of lower intelligence than you" by dumbfuck. He'd have to clarify, but I viewed it in context as a general pejorative that might include low intelligence in conjunction with other undesirable traits. If we really want to be technical, the word "dumbfuck" means a dumb (adj) fuck (noun). It isn't just someone who is dumb, i.e. a dummy. It's more like a reprehensible dummy, one that he sees no reason to treat with kid gloves.

Then again, maybe he really is just mean.

 

[davmat787]

Yes, he said that you should call people who ARE dumbfucks and cunts, dumbfucks and cunts, at every opportunity. You translated it as him believing people should call people names at every opportunity. That is a considerably broader idea because it implies rather indiscriminate name calling. I'm pretty sure he's just saying that there are some people who are so bad they do not deserve respect.

I see your point about the theoretical phycisists, but I don't think he meant "someone of lower intelligence than you" by dumbfuck. He'd have to clarify, but I viewed it in context as a general pejorative that might include low intelligence in conjunction with other undesirable traits. If we really want to be technical, the word "dumbfuck" means a dumb (adj) fuck (noun). It isn't just someone who is dumb, i.e. a dummy. It's more like a reprehensible dummy, one that he sees no reason to treat with kid gloves.

Then again, maybe he really is just mean.

But if the reason does not equate to lower intelligence, then would it not merely be opinion and thus name calling? And I disagree that by not calling someone a wise and beautiful woman means they are thus treated with kid gloves. And again, to what end?

I mean really, who goes around in life calling people a dumbfuck or wise and beautiful woman at every opportunity? Have you? You guys are making sound like it is your sacred duty to label people those terms to their face if it factually fits. Why? Because ITS TRUE! So they must be told!!

Such a silly issue to be debating this deeply, but whatever.

 

[woolfe9999]

But if the reason does not equate to lower intelligence, then would it not merely be opinion and thus name calling? And I disagree that by not calling someone a wise and beautiful woman means they are thus treated with kid gloves. And again, to what end?

I mean really, who goes around in life calling people a dumbfuck or wise and beautiful woman at every opportunity? Have you? You guys are making sound like it is your sacred duty to label people those terms to their face if it factually fits. Why? Because ITS TRUE! So they must be told!!

Such a silly issue to be debating this deeply, but whatever.

It's a silly issue to be debating indeed. My only reason for debating it is that I'm half drunk right now and highly amused (not at your expense, just amused in general). No lie.

Anyway, I am not much into name calling myself, yet I can see the value in it at times. Even if it is only to make you feel better because you got something off your chest. I spent a couple years debating holocaust deniers on another forum. I'll tell you, though we do have some douchebags around here, quite a number of them in fact, words cannot describe the depth of douchebaggery that some people are capable of. Sometimes, once in a while, maybe once every hundred posts, you've just gotta stop pretending you respect them, and just let them have it. You've got to tell them that they are a waste of oxygen and that this world would be immeasurably better off without them, using whatever words you feel appropriate to make the sentiment abundantly clear.

- wolf

 

[davmat787]

It's a silly issue to be debating indeed. My only reason for debating it is that I'm half drunk right now and highly amused (not at your expense, just amused in general). No lie.

Anyway, I am not much into name calling myself, yet I can see the value in it at times. Even if it is only to make you feel better because you got something off your chest. I spent a couple years debating holocaust deniers on another forum. I'll tell you, though we do have some douchebags around here, quite a number of them in fact, words cannot describe the depth of douchebaggery that some people are capable of. Sometimes, once in a while, maybe once every hundred posts, you've just gotta stop pretending you respect them, and just let them have it. You've got to tell them that they are a waste of oxygen and that this world would be immeasurably better off without them, using whatever words you feel appropriate to make the sentiment abundantly clear.

- wolf

"In Vino Veritas"

And did you change anyones mind about the holocaust by calling them a dumbfuck? Also, doing so once every 100 posts or so is different than "at every opportunity" as I am sure you are aware. Why didn't you do so at every opportunity?

PS: don't we have one or two holocaust deniers or minimizers right here at AT?

 

[JSt0rm]

I like calling people dumb fucks among other things. As long as they deserve it. And I decide who deserves it.

 

[davmat787]

I like calling people dumb fucks among other things. As long as they deserve it. And I decide who deserves it.

Yes, everyone here is quite familiar with your propensity for name calling.

 

[Zebo]

Saddest part is her Anti American Nazi shit sells and made her rich. What does that tell you?

 

[cybrsage]

I have an acute suspicion you think that's not right.

Don't be obtuse.

Well done! I applaud you! :thumbsup:

 

[cybrsage]

...vitriol laced statement missing any real substance or value...

You just proved my point. Well done.

 

[cybrsage]

Saddest part is her Anti American Nazi shit sells and made her rich. What does that tell you?

That a lot of libs are buying her books so they can burn them?

 

[shira]

Yes, he said that you should call people who ARE dumbfucks and cunts, dumbfucks and cunts, at every opportunity. You translated it as him believing people should call people names at every opportunity. That is a considerably broader idea because it implies rather indiscriminate name calling. I'm pretty sure he's just saying that there are some people who are so bad they do not deserve respect.

I see your point about the theoretical phycisists, but I don't think he meant "someone of lower intelligence than you" by dumbfuck. He'd have to clarify, but I viewed it in context as a general pejorative that might include low intelligence in conjunction with other undesirable traits. If we really want to be technical, the word "dumbfuck" means a dumb (adj) fuck (noun). It isn't just someone who is dumb, i.e. a dummy. It's more like a reprehensible dummy, one that he sees no reason to treat with kid gloves.

Then again, maybe he really is just mean.

You, sir, are definitely NOT a dumbfuck.

 

[shira]

"In Vino Veritas"

And did you change anyones mind about the holocaust by calling them a dumbfuck? Also, doing so once every 100 posts or so is different than "at every opportunity" as I am sure you are aware. Why didn't you do so at every opportunity?

PS: don't we have one or two holocaust deniers or minimizers right here at AT?

In my entire almost 7-year history on ATPN, I've used the term "dumbfuck" in EXACTLY one post (before this one).

 

[cybrsage]

And successfully made yourself look like someone without any true intelligence or a proper upbringing. Prior to that, you appeared to have a rational view of things. I do not know which appearence matches reality, but that is part of the point.

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

Cybesage, are you seriously saying, as it appears you are, that the problem with racist statements is that they are a form of profanity, and no better or worse than other forms of profanity? I find that an indefensible position and frankly a shocking one, particularly for a person who holds himself out as an arbiter of public decency, as you have herein.

 

[monovillage]

Cybesage, are you seriously saying, as it appears you are, that the problem with racist statements is that they are a form of profanity, and no better or worse than other forms of profanity? I find that an indefensible position and frankly a shocking one, particularly for a person who holds himself out as an arbiter of public decency, as you have herein.

Racist is bad, but sexist is good. OK got it.

 

[Jaskalas]

Posting in an Ann Coulter thread. Hey why not? Apparently she's popular.

You should have taken a poll for P&N, how many agree with 'shooting'. I think you'll find there's no reason to discuss what is almost universally opposed.