Andrew Yang , is he the wrong color?

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Out of all the Democrats, I think he's by far the smartest. He is the only candidate on the left who has fresh ideas that even Republicans I know support. Yet there is very little coverage and media interest on this guy. He does check the minority box that liberals rave about but is he just the wrong minority? Maybe Im wrong, I dont know. Why do you think Yang ain't doing better?
 
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Out of all the Democrats, I think he's by far the smartest. He is the only candidate on the left who has fresh ideas that even Republicans I know support. Yet there is very little coverage and media interest on this guy. He does check the minority box that liberals rave about but is he just the wrong minority? Maybe Im wrong, I dont know. Why do you think Yang ain't doing better?
The only criticism I've heard from progressives is that he is a venture capitalist so doesn't pass the Bernie Bro purity test. Because we can afford to be picky, obviously.
 
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He just doesn’t get the media coverage the establishment candidates get, they will tell you who you get to vote for 😜.

I like Yang myself and his fresh forward thinking ideas.
 
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Out of all the Democrats, I think he's by far the smartest. He is the only candidate on the left who has fresh ideas that even Republicans I know support. Yet there is very little coverage and media interest on this guy. He does check the minority box that liberals rave about but is he just the wrong minority? Maybe Im wrong, I dont know. Why do you think Yang ain't doing better?

I don't think it's anything sinister. It's that it's a combination of policies that people are unsure about (universal basic income has yet to be done on such a large scale) with his being a relative unknown in politics compared to Biden, Sanders, Warren and the like. That leads to a sort of vicious circle of media coverage where the initial frontrunners get more coverage, increasing the chances that they'll stay frontrunners.

I have to admit I'm also skeptical of candidates who have Republican support, if just because that support often comes for the wrong reasons. Right-wingers open to a Democrat vote prefer Yang and Gabbard because they most closely align with conservative ideology, not because their ideas are necessarily better. Not that Yang and Gabbard are DINOs -- it's just that the right's picks are entirely predictable.
 

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I don't think it's anything sinister. It's that it's a combination of policies that people are unsure about (universal basic income has yet to be done on such a large scale) with his being a relative unknown in politics compared to Biden, Sanders, Warren and the like. That leads to a sort of vicious circle of media coverage where the initial frontrunners get more coverage, increasing the chances that they'll stay frontrunners.

I have to admit I'm also skeptical of candidates who have Republican support, if just because that support often comes for the wrong reasons. Right-wingers open to a Democrat vote prefer Yang and Gabbard because they most closely align with conservative ideology, not because their ideas are necessarily better. Not that Yang and Gabbard are DINOs -- it's just that the right's picks are entirely predictable.

Nothing sinister with Republican support. Many Asian and white Republican leaning folks at work like him due to his intelligence and ideas. It started with just a small Tainwanese American group but his support among smart engineering scientist group is really growing.
 

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The only criticism I've heard from progressives is that he is a venture capitalist so doesn't pass the Bernie Bro purity test. Because we can afford to be picky, obviously.

I support Bernie and Andrew Yang is one of my top picks, I do appreciate his focus on automation being a threat to workers and not just manual labor blue collar ones. I think his UBI could very well be part of puzzle of how to fix the widening gulf of income injustice (aka income inequality that has gotten way out of hand imho) that we have now.

I've read speculation that if the people researching AI don't muck it up then even decent to well paying jobs that don't require a 4 year degree like X-Ray Tech or Legal Assistant could be threatened by Automation fairly soon after automation takes over fast food.



The Bernie-Bro throughline some people follow like a lemming is cringy though.
No one person has all of the answers. Some of course are better than others... Mayor Pete praying to Mammon in his wine cave is an example of one of the worst imo.


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Andrew Yang, in my opinion, represents a state of psychological, intellectual and cultural evolution so far advance over the average American that he is like a person who has gone up the mountain, though the cloud layer, into the sunlight, and is basically invisible from the ground where most of us live. Only people who are somewhat along on the same path will be able to see anything in him. He is an outlier, an anomaly, so different from what people expect from politicians that they put him in a box marked too cryptic and non-relatable for me. People can't handle the strange and unfamiliar because of their own backwardness.
 
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Out of all the Democrats, I think he's by far the smartest. He is the only candidate on the left who has fresh ideas that even Republicans I know support. Yet there is very little coverage and media interest on this guy. He does check the minority box that liberals rave about but is he just the wrong minority? Maybe Im wrong, I dont know. Why do you think Yang ain't doing better?

It's simple he's not an insider and that is what the establishment looks at mainly... Are you an insider who won't buck the system except perhaps in a fake talking point way perhaps or are you an outsider who does believe that the system could be changed and made better for more people beside the relatively few that the political economic insider establishment cares about?

Andrew Yangs freedom dividend would disrupt the system in a way that the insider establishment doesn't much care about at all. So he's off the invite list for the big club (that you and me ain't in) unless they can tempt him to sell out.

Kamala is an insider that is why you saw all of the cable news head-assed pundits concern trolling over the Democratic Debate makeup and then said pretty much nothing sitting with their thumbs up their fourth point of contact when Yang qualified for the debates soon after Kamala dropped out...

In my opinion, she most dropped likely so that her name would drop off the CA primary ballot and that she would be spared the embarrassment and possible political damage of not even being in the top 10 in her home state...

Oh yeah (S)Kamala is a Cop.

There is a reason that she didn't have a much support from black voters as one who isn't familiar with her record as prosecutor would have assumed.

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Personally I never paid much attention to him. If there is one thing I've learned over the years is that the President is a very tough job and sending in an amateur and/or inexperienced person never ever works out good. As Trump has proven it's very easy to talk a good game.
 
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Democrats! They're the real racists! Or something.

Sometimes when people are joking, as you appear to be, they are actually telling the truth. Let's never forget the Democrats were the party of slavery.
Let's never forget the Democrats were the party of the KKK, originally.
 

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Mayor Pete praying to Mammon in his wine cave is an example of one of the worst imo.

A common coping mechanism for people with image conscious people I observe, like being small but the class clown, is to be more extreme at appearing to maintain traditional values then others around you. Perhaps Pete has tried to compensate for the inevitable contempt he will face as a gay person due to cultural bigotry, by defending other cultural norms to greater extremes. He pretends, in my opinion, as do several others, to be electable because they play the normal middle of the road democrat better than those 'wierd' socialists who threaten the Party. Politics, with the exception of people like Yang, know the bigotry of their voters and play to it to get elected. It's a form of shall we say 'high class' prostitution.
 

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Personally I never paid much attention to him. If there is one thing I've learned over the years is that the President is a very tough job and sending in an amateur and/or inexperienced person never ever works out good. As Trump has proven it's very easy to talk a good game.
Funny, sending in a politician seems to me to be what doesn't work out. I'll take a peanut farmer any day.
 

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Sometimes when people are joking, as you appear to be, they are actually telling the truth. Let's never forget the Democrats were the party of slavery.
Let's never forget the Democrats were the party of the KKK, originally.

#NeverForegt Bengahzis!!!! Buttery Emilz!!!!!
 
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Sometimes when people are joking, as you appear to be, they are actually telling the truth. Let's never forget the Democrats were the party of slavery.
Let's never forget the Democrats were the party of the KKK, originally.

Emphasis on "were." Now the 'honors' of being the official racist party go to the GOP, the party you enthusiastically support.
 

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Emphasis on "were." Now the 'honors' of being the official racist party go to the GOP, the party you enthusiastically support.

I don't know, Im starting to think the Democrats are closet racist against white and asians( the wrong minority)
 

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I don't know, Im starting to think the Democrats are closet racist against white and asians( the wrong minority)

Er... no. It's a serious stretch to claim the party is racist against white people when its leading candidates are white. And there's exactly one Asian candidate. You can't cry "racism" just because Yang is trailing; you have to show that he's trailing because the DNC has something against Asians, as opposed to a simpler explanation like favoring candidates with name recognition or existing political experience.

I can't help but feel that you're letting your enthusiasm for Yang cloud your objectivity. You see him as not just ideal, but obviously so -- that is, he's pre-destined to win so long as he isn't intentionally held back. And the boring truth is that, if he's a victim of anything, it's more likely to be the DNC's favoring well-known candidates and the media covering whoever's already in front.
 

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Emphasis on "were." Now the 'honors' of being the official racist party go to the GOP, the party you enthusiastically support.

Stop spreading falsehoods. This is a false narrative and you know it. That means you are posting disingenuous shit on an internet forum, even though you know better. Say and do what is required to get elected, or help your people get elected. The race card is always one of the left's tools.
 
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Funny, sending in a politician seems to me to be what doesn't work out. I'll take a peanut farmer any day.

Actually the peanut farmer was exactly who I was thinking of. And he wasn't exactly inexperienced-nuclear sub captain, state governor, highly successful self made businessman. The election between him and Ford was the hardest Presidential choice I made-both Carter and Ford were eminently decent nonpartisan very competent technocrats. And Carter is perhaps the most accomplished ex-President ever-author of dozens of popular and well written books, founder and driving force behind Habitat for Humanity, etc. But even I have to admit that Carter's record as President was mostly uninspiring (he came SO close with the Camp David accord, however, but radical Egyptian and Israeli assassins shut that down-apparently forever.
 

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Sometimes when people are joking, as you appear to be, they are actually telling the truth. Let's never forget the Democrats were the party of slavery.
Let's never forget the Democrats were the party of the KKK, originally.

The parties flipped. That's why you only see conservatives defend the Confederacy as their heritage.

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It's difficult for any candidate to come out of nowhere and win a presidential primary. The next closest thing would be Pete Buttigieg but he has at least some experience, he's only in fourth place, and has little to no chance to win.

Not sure why the OP assumes it's because Yang is Asian. Is he assuming we have a problem with Asians but not blacks?
 

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Stop spreading falsehoods. This is a false narrative and you know it. That means you are posting disingenuous shit on an internet forum, even though you know better. Say and do what is required to get elected, or help your people get elected. The race card is always one of the left's tools.
The Republican Party had self proclaimed neo-Nazis on the ballot last election cycle and those candidates picked up tens of thousands of Republican votes in the primaries. Your party is the one racists flock to. Own it.
As to the OP, he’s going to have to do better than suggest causation without evidence.
 
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Meghan54

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Stop spreading falsehoods. This is a false narrative and you know it. That means you are posting disingenuous shit on an internet forum, even though you know better. Say and do what is required to get elected, or help your people get elected. The race card is always one of the left's tools.

So, please show me the mass migration of all the Southern Democrats out of the South.....you know, the ones who put in force Jim Crow laws, et al, and the influx of all those "progressive" type Republicans. Because the South really votes heavily Repub and has done so since 1964, so when did those millions of white, conservative Southerners move out? Surely there is documentation that shows the mass migration out of the South of those racist Democrats and the mass influx of those Republicans that replaced them.....since only the Democrats are racist, right?

In the mean time, in reality, those old racist Dems switched parties in the early to mid-1960's and started voting Republican.....about the time the Civil Rights Act and Voting Rights Act were put into law and Republican leaders started denouncing both a la Goldwater, et al.

But keep up the good fight and ignore reality.....seems to be your niche in life.
 

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It's simple he's not an insider and that is what the establishment looks at mainly... Are you an insider who won't buck the system except perhaps in a fake talking point way perhaps or are you an outsider who does believe that the system could be changed and made better for more people beside the relatively few that the political economic insider establishment cares about?

Andrew Yangs freedom dividend would disrupt the system in a way that the insider establishment doesn't much care about at all. So he's off the invite list for the big club (that you and me ain't in) unless they can tempt him to sell out.

Kamala is an insider that is why you saw all of the cable news head-assed pundits concern trolling over the Democratic Debate makeup and then said pretty much nothing sitting with their thumbs up their fourth point of contact when Yang qualified for the debates soon after Kamala dropped out...

In my opinion, she most dropped likely so that her name would drop off the CA primary ballot and that she would be spared the embarrassment and possible political damage of not even being in the top 10 in her home state...

Oh yeah (S)Kamala is a Cop.

There is a reason that she didn't have a much support from black voters as one who isn't familiar with her record as prosecutor would have assumed.

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lol you have a pretty fluid definition of what an insider is.