As your article says, perjury requires the deliberate statement of a falsehood while the FBI's standard of 'lacking candor' includes misleading through omission. It also doesn't require the criminal standard of proof. That being said, it's still deeply ironic that the Attorney General is firing people for 'lack of candor' when he is clearly guilty of that at a MINIMUM and likely worse.
As your article says, perjury requires the deliberate statement of a falsehood while the FBI's standard of 'lacking candor' includes misleading through omission. It also doesn't require the criminal standard of proof. That being said, it's still deeply ironic that the Attorney General is firing people for 'lack of candor' when he is clearly guilty of that at a MINIMUM and likely worse.
bshole
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Hehe. All that is required for conservative to deny the Russian connection in the firing of McCabe is some manner of plausible deniability, which, considering the conservative brain's willingness to believe just about anything, is a walk in the park.
imported_tajmahal
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imported_tajmahal
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"Mumblings (from right radio)" as opposed to mumblings from left wing media? Slate?
Trump & Sessions still went out of their way to fuck him as hard as they could. Strictly for political purposes, of course.
Desperate, huh? If McCabe had the authority to release the information as he claims, then no leaking occurred. We don't even know what it was. If he corrected the record & cleared up any ambiguity in his interactions with DOJ investigators in a timely & honest fashion then he should receive at least the same sort of consideration that Sessions himself received.
The only reason Sessions skated on volunteering a lie is that it was unresponsive to the question asked.
Q: What would you do if you found out that a member of the Trump campaign did X?
A: I was called a surrogate for the campaign. I never did X.
Well, except he apparently forgot that he actually did X. But it had nothing to do with the campaign or Trump winning. Honest.
I mean, let's face it- we're through the looking glass when Sessions can fire McCabe under such circumstances & get away with it. It's a disgrace & a part of the big lie being perpetrated by Trump.
imported_tajmahal
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No, that will come when they prosecute him for perjury. That won't be until after the IG report is out. He still has a real hard fvcking to take in the future........... for justice purposes.
It's an attempt to discredit McCabe, Comey, the FBI & the Special Counsel investigation.
Lemme see... On one side we have Trump & Sessions, known liars... On the other side we have straight arrow FBI people with proven records. Who you gonna believe?
Uhhh how is this not connected? Trump surely thinks it’s connected, look at his statements.
Whether it’s justified is to be seen. But no one can say there is not a connection.
Jaskalas
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You mean, we should believe the FBI people who recommended the firing?
hal2kilo
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I think he having a "I just remembered how much I hate Hilary" moment. That's it, now I feel better about justifying this shit. He thinks to himself.
imported_tajmahal
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We'll find that out when he appoints a Special Prosecutor to look into her email and obstruction of justice episodes.
imported_tajmahal
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She can always get away with it if she decides to throw enough people under the bus.
We don't even know what they said. We just know what Sessions said. We also know that Sessions went around Christopher Wray to do the deed, as well. If you think that's ordinary, you might be interested in Arizona oceanfront.
Jaskalas
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Hillary is a universal talisman for Righties. Raving about her helps 'em keep their minds right...
dank69
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McCabe only appears to have perjured himself if you trust conservative media sources. If you rely only on known facts, we have no idea what has happened yet.
dank69
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AFAIK the FBI people who recommended the firing were acting at the direction of Sessions. The guy who recused himself from all of this.
hal2kilo
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If the IG report comes out and has evidence I will accept it. Horowitz is respected by all and was an Obama appointee. I just think that this is not proper protocol, and that normally, this would have been appealed and at this late date, they normally would just say, please continue with your retirement and be done with it. Trump predicted this with a tweet months ago and I'm hoping this will also be put on the obstruction of justice pile.
It's pretty sad that an organization that was considered somewhat conservative before all this bullshit is now a puppet of the Democratic party, really, you should ask who is pushing this narrative and why.
It's pretty sad that an organization that was considered somewhat conservative before all this bullshit is now a puppet of the Democratic party, really, you should ask who is pushing this narrative and why.
With whatever evil thing she did, obviously. There's no need to be specific in a witch hunt. Burn the Witch! Everybody knows she's a witch, so burn her!
BonzaiDuck
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Whatever McCabe did -- and it wasn't by any means "perjury" -- only the paranoids of the Right will refuse to see that it didn't affect the Clinton investigations.
First, the Benghazi hearings should never have been arranged as a partisan committee -- there should've been a non-partisan commission to investigate. There was no "There" there. As investigators, the GOP congressmen made fools of themselves, because any independent investigation would've stopped short after several steps into the field of evidence proved nothing. It was all a waste of money.
Then, there was the e-mail fiasco. All Clinton did was to give them actual grounds to invite an investigation. Nothing was found, other than a few e-mails that had since been classified after the fact. "Deleted" e-mails cannot be distinguished as to whether they came from Home Depot or Sears for a household like Chappaqua. Trump can rant and rave all he wants, but the more suspicious indicator of a crime would be Trump's invitation to the Russians asking them to further hack Clinton's mail. It should be noted that while there was never any breach of security for hacking Clinton's own household server, the State Department itself had been hacked by the Russians, and such was common knowledge before the 2016 campaign.
There was a thorough edit of the Clinton Foundation. Nothing could be proven there. And remember -- you have to have verifiable facts to prove anything. So there were no verifiable facts supporting such proof.
Generally, our form of government is under assault with the implication that you can't have Republican misdoing investigated by law enforcement who happen to be registered Democrats. This is Trump's idea, as he continues to disparage both Mueller and his staff.
What should we expect next? People charged as criminals, whose lawyers insist on vetting jurors according to their voter registration?
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