Andrew McCabe is fired. Will not collect retirement.

[jackstar7]

It is funny to see the cop haters flip script here. If this was a cop in middle America who did what he did, lost his retirement there would be rejoicing. But since its a Trump hating FBI agent, its terrible.

Cool, so fucking people over is just more owning the libs, eh?

I'd call you a dildo, but they bring good into the world.

 

[BonzaiDuck]

My best-guess understanding of the McCabe retirement problem was likely correct.

Two (D) congressmen on the Hill offered him jobs so he can finish out the two days he needs to collect his 20 year minimal pension. For only 20 years, he'll do OK because he'd put at least three of his last years in at the upper reaches of the grade and pay scale. He might only get 30% per annum of the average high three years, for only serving 20 years.

As to my sources, I do receive Daily Kos, and that could be construed equivalent to the Drudge Report or some other news-distortion rag. But it was linked to another source -- perhaps it was Washington Post or New York Times.

Someone else mentioned McCabe's bi-weekly pay statements, which substantiate that a paid-up retirement plan is a property right. You might otherwise have to wait until age 60 or 65 to draw on it if it doesn't represent enough years of service.

What happens in state and local government may vary -- and does vary.

One congressman wants McCabe to work on "Election Security" issues. He might work a month; he might work indefinitely. That depends on McCabe, I would think.

 

[HomerJS]

It is funny to see the cop haters flip script here. If this was a cop in middle America who did what he did, lost his retirement there would be rejoicing. But since its a Trump hating FBI agent, its terrible. This investigation into him started last Summer. The FBI themselves, aka his peers, suggested he be fired. Ever think that he was fired at the last minute because they wanted to make sure, and not do it months ago? Dont want to lose your pension? Dont do shit to bring the hammer down on yourself. Few more FBI agents need to be looked into, the cheating, texting, high up FBI agents that worked under him. Of course I suppose they are perfect examples of FBI agents to some around here too.

If McCabe killed an unarmed person during a traffic stop when that person did nothing wrong I'd be for firing McCabe too.

Nobody here has seen the actual report. What is funny in this the normal M.O. is to release the report and then fire. It was done in reverse and has Trump vindictive written all over it.

 

[fskimospy]

I'll need at least as much time a Mueller needs.

Lol. So I called your bullshit right the first time.

 

[mikeymikec]

I'll need at least as much time a Mueller needs.

You do realise how stupid this makes you look, don't you?

(As he doesn't have his copyright info on this - Jon Rosenberg, goats.com.)
​

 

[boomerang]

Politics make strange bedfellows. The same people that hated the FBI, CIA, any form of government authority, now are defending them. And with blind ignorance on display for all to see too. They can't wrap their heads around the fact that the recommendation to fire McCabe came from within his own brethren, his peers charged with oversight. It's the vast right-wing conspiracy in action.

Hat's off for the allocation of victimhood status in an equal opportunity way though. We could almost believe the intentions were sincere except for the complete lack of application of even a modicum of logic.

Oh, and the title needs to be corrected. McCabe is getting his pension. Oh, never mind, that's burned into the brain of the usual suspects and nothing can extract it at this point. McCabe will be cashing the checks and we'll still be hearing that he didn't get it.

 

[outriding]

Did they have classified material on them?

There are justifications that are beyond classified material.

So just a yes or no

 

[umbrella39]

It is funny to see the cop haters flip script here. If this was a cop in middle America who did what he did, lost his retirement there would be rejoicing.

It's funnier to watch you do the same thing you are accusing others of doing while trying to pass off your inane false equivalence... This ISN'T a cop in middle America, this is pretty much one of the most important investigations of our time... Why so many are trying so hard to derail it before it's even played out speaks to just how partisain crazy the right wingers have become... What's that old thing I always here echoed... Ah yes...

If you have nothing to hide..........

 

[BonzaiDuck]

Politics make strange bedfellows. The same people that hated the FBI, CIA, any form of government authority, now are defending them. And with blind ignorance on display for all to see too. They can't wrap their heads around the fact that the recommendation to fire McCabe came from within his own brethren, his peers charged with oversight. It's the vast right-wing conspiracy in action.

Hat's off for the allocation of victimhood status in an equal opportunity way though. We could almost believe the intentions were sincere except for the complete lack of application of even a modicum of logic.

Oh, and the title needs to be corrected. McCabe is getting his pension. Oh, never mind, that's burned into the brain of the usual suspects and nothing can extract it at this point. McCabe will be cashing the checks and we'll still be hearing that he didn't get it.

" . . . same people that hated the FBI, CIA . . . . "

If you're referring to the Boomer generation coming up through the 1960s and '70s, understanding it must be put in the context of the times.

CIA was doing a lot of things in its first 15 years of existence that were forbidden by Congress after the 1970s' Church Committee Hearings. The FBI -- as J. Edgar Hoover's personal Gestapo -- was going after students who had joined organizations like the SDS. I personally know a retired police careerist who had applied to FBI after college in the mid'70s, later finding that he'd been turned down for involvement in the SDS.

I'd be curious about the report issued from FBI's Office of Professional Responsibility. And I'd be interested to know just how McCabe fell short of "candor."

The Clinton investigations took place during the height of the 2016 campaigns, and anyone involved in either answering questions or gathering the facts was under a lot of pressure. What did the report say? When was the report issued? It may merely have made it possible for McCabe's firing -- only on the extreme end of options available. McCabe could only have been fired through the intervention of Trump through Sessions; his colleagues may not have recommended it, because he survived the Obama administration.

I'd have to look at the OPR report to make my own determination.

 

[fskimospy]

" . . . same people that hated the FBI, CIA . . . . "

If you're referring to the Boomer generation coming up through the 1960s and '70s, understanding it must be put in the context of the times.

CIA was doing a lot of things in its first 15 years of existence that were forbidden by Congress after the 1970s' Church Committee Hearings. The FBI -- as J. Edgar Hoover's personal Gestapo -- was going after students who had joined organizations like the SDS. I personally know a retired police careerist who had applied to FBI after college in the mid'70s, later finding that he'd been turned down for involvement in the SDS.

I'd be curious about the report issued from FBI's Office of Professional Responsibility. And I'd be interested to know just how McCabe fell short of "candor."

The Clinton investigations took place during the height of the 2016 campaigns, and anyone involved in either answering questions or gathering the facts was under a lot of pressure. What did the report say? When was the report issued? It may merely have made it possible for McCabe's firing -- only on the extreme end of options available. McCabe could only have been fired through the intervention of Trump through Sessions; his colleagues may not have recommended it, because he survived the Obama administration.

I'd have to look at the OPR report to make my own determination.

It’s all a false choice presented by people like boomerang who are either too stupid or too dishonest to say better.

Supporting the FBI and CIA in their investigation into corruption at the highest levels of government and an attack on the country by a hostile foreign power doesn’t mean you support everything they do, and criticism of their abuses of power is entirely compatible with praise of them when they undertake investigations like this.

It’s amazing that even needs to be explained, but it’s boomerang, haha.

 

[brandonbull]

Sessions made sure he payed the price for defying Lord Trump.


https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/andrew-mccabe-fired-fbi_us_5aa9af61e4b0004c04070d10

I guess Lord Trump, before becoming president, had ordered the FBI to put McCabe under investigation?

 

[VRAMdemon]

Lawfare has one of the best accounts that I have read about this.

Regardless of the underlying (and not yet public) issues with McCabe, the hastened firing sends a chilling message to others in law enforcement. get in line, or else.

I also am of the opinion that Trump would have fired Sessions had McCabe not been terminated before officially reaching retirement. So Sessions could have done this as a CYA or to protect Mueller for a bit longer.

The firing, itself, is not the main problem. It's the timing, the manner and the needless tweeting afterwards that make this a political mistake. Not to mention just downright unpresidential.

 

[jackstar7]

Politics make strange bedfellows. The same people that hated the FBI, CIA, any form of government authority, now are defending them. And with blind ignorance on display for all to see too. They can't wrap their heads around the fact that the recommendation to fire McCabe came from within his own brethren, his peers charged with oversight. It's the vast right-wing conspiracy in action.

Hat's off for the allocation of victimhood status in an equal opportunity way though. We could almost believe the intentions were sincere except for the complete lack of application of even a modicum of logic.

Oh, and the title needs to be corrected. McCabe is getting his pension. Oh, never mind, that's burned into the brain of the usual suspects and nothing can extract it at this point. McCabe will be cashing the checks and we'll still be hearing that he didn't get it.

I hope you get your depression treated.

 

[hal2kilo]

" . . . same people that hated the FBI, CIA . . . . "

If you're referring to the Boomer generation coming up through the 1960s and '70s, understanding it must be put in the context of the times.

CIA was doing a lot of things in its first 15 years of existence that were forbidden by Congress after the 1970s' Church Committee Hearings. The FBI -- as J. Edgar Hoover's personal Gestapo -- was going after students who had joined organizations like the SDS. I personally know a retired police careerist who had applied to FBI after college in the mid'70s, later finding that he'd been turned down for involvement in the SDS.

I'd be curious about the report issued from FBI's Office of Professional Responsibility. And I'd be interested to know just how McCabe fell short of "candor."

The Clinton investigations took place during the height of the 2016 campaigns, and anyone involved in either answering questions or gathering the facts was under a lot of pressure. What did the report say? When was the report issued? It may merely have made it possible for McCabe's firing -- only on the extreme end of options available. McCabe could only have been fired through the intervention of Trump through Sessions; his colleagues may not have recommended it, because he survived the Obama administration.

I'd have to look at the OPR report to make my own determination.

WTF, I've tried to respond to this post about 5 times and it keeps telling me it's spam or something.
See if it works now:

So the problem was the word F*A*G. Such snowflakes in moderation.

We seemed to have lived in parallel. I understand everything you said cause I lived it. Yes we are defending those institutions that at one time were out of control. I ran away from home for a month because my mother cracked at stack of dishes on my head, cause I called J. Egar a gay. Fun times, I swear I have Post Traumatic Stress Syndrome from that period in my life.

EDIT:I did not say gay to my mom. I said the word that shall not appear.

 

[Jhhnn]

Lawfare has one of the best accounts that I have read about this.

Regardless of the underlying (and not yet public) issues with McCabe, the hastened firing sends a chilling message to others in law enforcement. get in line, or else.

I also am of the opinion that Trump would have fired Sessions had McCabe not been terminated before officially reaching retirement. So Sessions could have done this as a CYA or to protect Mueller for a bit longer.

The firing, itself, is not the main problem. It's the timing, the manner and the needless tweeting afterwards that make this a political mistake. Not to mention just downright unpresidential.

Oh, it's all needful from a Trumpian perspective. He needs to discredit the FBI, the IC & the Special Counsel if his presidency is to survive the revelations likely to come.

Everybody needs to get real here. If Trump isn't guilty then he's putting on a masterful performance of acting guilty.

 

[bshole]

I think it can also be said that Trump plays for keeps. It

Politics make strange bedfellows. The same people that hated the FBI, CIA, any form of government authority, now are defending them. And with blind ignorance on display for all to see too. They can't wrap their heads around the fact that the recommendation to fire McCabe came from within his own brethren, his peers charged with oversight. It's the vast right-wing conspiracy in action.

Hat's off for the allocation of victimhood status in an equal opportunity way though. We could almost believe the intentions were sincere except for the complete lack of application of even a modicum of logic.

Oh, and the title needs to be corrected. McCabe is getting his pension. Oh, never mind, that's burned into the brain of the usual suspects and nothing can extract it at this point. McCabe will be cashing the checks and we'll still be hearing that he didn't get it.

You do not know that. We will know the truth when the report is released. Until then, you do yourself no favors by making assertions without evidence.

 

[imported_tajmahal]

Lol. So I called your bullshit right the first time.

There's been a few times i've linked the news reports about Hillary's emails to you over the last year or 2. You always request them, then spew a ration of bullshit about "there was no intent" etc. It won't stop me from posting that Hillary had classified emails on her server (which she did) and that she had emails destroyed that were under subpoena (which she also did).

Get over yourself and the idea i give a rat's ass about your demands.

 

[Jhhnn]

There's been a few times i've linked the news reports about Hillary's emails to you over the last year or 2. You always request them, then spew a ration of bullshit about "there was no intent" etc. It won't stop me from posting that Hillary had classified emails on her server (which she did) and that she had emails destroyed that were under subpoena (which she also did).

Get over yourself and the idea i give a rat's ass about your demands.

Trolling thru with whataboutism...

 

[fskimospy]

There's been a few times i've linked the news reports about Hillary's emails to you over the last year or 2. You always request them, then spew a ration of bullshit about "there was no intent" etc.

No intent = no crime. Durrrrr.

It won't stop me from posting that Hillary had classified emails on her server (which she did)

This is not, in and of itself, a crime. You said she had committed crimes so where's the evidence?

and that she had emails destroyed that were under subpoena (which she also did).

Evidence?

Get over yourself and the idea i give a rat's ass about your demands.

Have you seriously not realized by this point that I'm only asking you for this because I know you can't supply it? Even if you did care about my demands since that information doesn't exist so it wouldn't matter either way. I'm purely asking for it because we both know you're full of shit and this is the easiest way to expose you as the liar everyone knows you are.

 

[brandonbull]

I think it can also be said that Trump plays for keeps. It


You do not know that. We will know the truth when the report is released. Until then, you do yourself no favors by making assertions without evidence.

Hasn't McCabe been under FBI investigation since before Trump became president?

 

[UNCjigga]

Hasn't McCabe been under FBI investigation since before Trump became president?

Link? I don't think McCabe was ever the primary subject of any long-term investigation. The IG investigation is part of an inquiry into FBI handling of the Clinton email investigation, and certainly McCabe and Comey would be part of that and would be questioned under oath.

The primary allegation here is that McCabe "lacked candor" when discussing his authorization to disclose information on Clinton investigations to the Wall Street Journal, which I take to mean he didn't tell the entire truth and is guilty of errors of omission, not that he necessarily misled investigators. Either way, that could be enough to be a fireable offense. Even Schiff agrees that firing might be justified.

The weird thing is how specific parts of the IG report were made available to the FBI office of investigation before the IG report was publicly available. Someone was in a rush to fire McCabe. Who pushed for that, and why?

 

[Jaskalas]

Link? I don't think McCabe was ever the primary subject of any long-term investigation.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/v...estigation_before_trump_even_took_office.html
Mollie Hemingway: McCabe Was Under Investigation Before Trump Even Took Office

 

[hal2kilo]

Mollie Hemingway: McCabe Was Under Investigation Before Trump Even Took Office

Nice trip to alternate reality.

 

[fskimospy]

Mollie Hemingway: McCabe Was Under Investigation Before Trump Even Took Office

Do you have a more credible source? Not saying it’s wrong but someone from the federalist generally isn’t to be trusted.

 

[hal2kilo]

Do you have a more credible source? Not saying it’s wrong but someone from the federalist generally isn’t to be trusted.

Yea, the actual article might be OK. But, I made the mistake at looking at the other articles on the page. No wonder Jack gets confused sometimes.