And so it begins: Wikileaks founder accused of rape

[JohnOfSheffield]

Oooops! Time to man up and admit you were way off base.

I thought about it after i had written it, that i didn't really have good enough information to make those charges. Yes, i was way off base on that.

I stand by my words though, he is guilty of treason, not of my team, no one knows anything about my team, but others.

He named informants in villages where the Taliban still reside, he published it, this will, of fucking course, make them very dead and it will also make our work a lot more difficult.

I'm IN Afghanistan if you failed to notice that.

 

[WhipperSnapper]

Well it seems the charges against him have been dropped:

In that case, he should sue whoever filed the charges, and whoever filed the charges should be prosecuted and given the same sentence he would have received.

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

The charges have not been dropped, he's just under investigation, there are two complaints and both still stand.

 

[ModerateRepZero]

sweden apparently rescinded its warrant

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

sweden apparently rescinded its warrant

I took the liberty of checking this out myself and apparently there was a dicplomatic request not to hold him along with a guarantee that he will stay in touch.

The accusation along with investigation continues, there will most probably be a trial since the evidence is overwherlming.

I just hope he'd go to the UK soon, he can be charged and locked up for any crime in any nation in the UK.

He's still guilty of treason.

 

[HendrixFan]

The charges have not been dropped, he's just under investigation, there are two complaints and both still stand.

The two women knew each other, and went to the police together. They claim that they were molested by Assange independently in two different cities, with a few days between, without one of them thinking to warn the other.

Also, out of the thousands of documents only three records contain a name of an "informant". One of which died and another was a pro-Taliban double agent. Not to mention that the White House also had the opportunity to redact names via the New Your Times contact, but declined to do so - they could not have cared less.

I appreciate the sacrifice you are making overseas, but that also leaves you less informed of what is really going on outside of your location as well as slanting your perceptions.

Edit: Reading through some other links, it seems the girls have not yet formally accused him of rape, only that they are asking police for guidance relating to what allegedly happened. In Sweden they have stiff punishment for knowingly and falsely accusing someone of rape.

 

[ConstipatedVigilante]

Little twat gets to party with the big boys in the in crowd after being famous for being a traitor to his nation, little twat rapes two girls because he's all powerful and they should just oblige him...

Fuck you, these are two regular girls and he raped them by every evidence found and you are excusing that because this fucking traitor is someone you want to fuck your arse...

Let go off of your fantasy lover, he's a fucking rapist and the evidence isn't only the girls words, it's witnesses and DNA evidence.

Slow your roll dude; you're gonna have an aneurysm.

 

[Vette73]

Rape charges dropped

http://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/europe/08/21/sweden.wikileaks.charge/index.html?hpt=T1&iref=BN1

Assange is "no longer wanted" and "is not suspected of rape," Chief Prosecutor Eva Finne said in a statement posted on the agency's official website Saturday. He is also no longer arrested in absentia, the statement said.

 

[waggy]

wow that was fast.

 

[her209]

wow that was fast.

That's what she said.

 

[Steeplerot]

I thought about it after i had written it, that i didn't really have good enough information to make those charges. Yes, i was way off base on that.

I stand by my words though, he is guilty of treason, not of my team, no one knows anything about my team, but others.

He named informants in villages where the Taliban still reside, he published it, this will, of fucking course, make them very dead and it will also make our work a lot more difficult.

I'm IN Afghanistan if you failed to notice that.

This extreme defensiveness and the "warning shot across the bow" frame job just makes me all the more interested in what the establishment is up to in Afghanistan. Hope he dumps the whole corrupt sand castle into the sea.

That is if he is not found in a park with slit wrists. Obviously many people want this guy in a jail cell..alone.

 

[BoberFett]

This extreme defensiveness and the "warning shot across the bow" frame job just makes me all the more interested in what the establishment is up to in Afghanistan. Hope he dumps the whole corrupt sand castle into the sea.

That is if he is not found in a park with slit wrists. Obviously many people want this guy in a jail cell..alone.

I hate to say it, but I've got to agree with Red here. There are a probably quite a few people who would like to see him erased, and they're afraid of what they think he may have.

If Assange is smart, which I can only assume he is, he probably understands that the only way for someone in his position to stay alive is to live a rockstar life style that draws a lot of attention. If he were just some geek in a dark room surrounded by computers and a lot of tin foil, he could disappear and nobody would notice. By getting lots of personal attention, that's much more difficult. It means things like cooking up fake rapes to turn the public against him.

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

I hate to say it, but I've got to agree with Red here. There are a probably quite a few people who would like to see him erased, and they're afraid of what they think he may have.

If Assange is smart, which I can only assume he is, he probably understands that the only way for someone in his position to stay alive is to live a rockstar life style that draws a lot of attention. If he were just some geek in a dark room surrounded by computers and a lot of tin foil, he could disappear and nobody would notice. By getting lots of personal attention, that's much more difficult. It means things like cooking up fake rapes to turn the public against him.

I wish i could be like you, skipping along a summers field chanting "information wants to be free"...

In reality, treason is treason regardless of what else it is and there is only one proper punishment for it.

Of course, people like you don't give a shit about anyone but yourself so those informants, these soldiers, those bunkers, you don't give a fuck about that.

I'm trying to understand what good can come out of publishing those details that will inevitably lead to the death of NATO and ISAF troops along with a lot of civilians who only wanted to be free from opression.

I'm trying to understand that, explain that to me, will you?

 

[Steeplerot]

You utterly discredited yourself then you go on another hissy fit with no backing information, just wild accusations. Shouldn't you be killing instead of drinking and bitching at civvies on the net Mr. Afganistan soldier?

 

[LumbergTech]

I wish i could be like you, skipping along a summers field chanting "information wants to be free"...

In reality, treason is treason regardless of what else it is and there is only one proper punishment for it.

Of course, people like you don't give a shit about anyone but yourself so those informants, these soldiers, those bunkers, you don't give a fuck about that.

I'm trying to understand what good can come out of publishing those details that will inevitably lead to the death of NATO and ISAF troops along with a lot of civilians who only wanted to be free from opression.

I'm trying to understand that, explain that to me, will you?

so you don't think the people have a right to know what is being done in their name?

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

so you don't think the people have a right to know what is being done in their name?

Not when the information contains specifics that WILL INEVITABLY lead to death and making a mission so much more difficult.

It's akin to publishing the names of informants within Hells Angels because "information wants to be free" or giving up adresses to the public so that those who want to can kill those who live there.

There is a reason for confindentiality on these documents and i don't give a fuck what you think about it.

I'll shoot him myself if i get the chance.

 

[JEDIYoda]

so you don't think the people have a right to know what is being done in their name?

The peoples right to know is trumped by the lives that will be lost when this information comes out!

There is no way that you are advocating allowing those people to be killed because some looney person wants to leak this information!

 

[Phokus]

Well that was a botched false flag operation. To think the CIA used to be able to over throw democratically elected governments and assassinate global leaders on a whim.

 

[Narmer]

so you don't think the people have a right to know what is being done in their name?

There are proper channels to go through.

 

[Throckmorton]

In that case, he should sue whoever filed the charges, and whoever filed the charges should be prosecuted and given the same sentence he would have received.

Then we should sue him for the harm he's done to national security and for causing innocent people to die

 

[hal2kilo]

so you don't think the people have a right to know what is being done in their name?

The type of information released i.e. at the tactical level is very dangerous. This puts people that we got information from in danger, and will cause any people we were getting information from to clam up.

This is nothing noble like the kind of information that Daniel Ellsberg released. That was secret policy not daily communications from the field.

I know it sucks to have secrets about how the war is going but this is not the kind of information the some joe blow should be disseminating.

We should have information like this, but redacted and summarized by people who understand what kinds of things put operations and peoples lives at risk.

The sad thing is that we probably wouldn't know how fucked up things are over there without the release, but it's still not Wikileaks call.

No, I don't fit your liberal templates.

 

[Craig234]

I know, right? I was kinda looking forward to a long and drawn out battle, to be honest. Not that I dislike the guy, but if he was guilty it would have been more entertaining to watch. Kinda disappointed, to be honest

Which shows your immorality and that explains a lot of your politics, that you would prefer there was a rape for your entertainment.

 

[Craig234]

Also, out of the thousands of documents only three records contain a name of an "informant". One of which died and another was a pro-Taliban double agent. Not to mention that the White House also had the opportunity to redact names via the New Your Times contact, but declined to do so - they could not have cared less.

To be fair, it's understandable the White House not cooperating with them.

It's condoning the release of classified documents which they view as a criminal act, to assist in the sanitizing effort, as if saying 'it's ok, since we scrubbed the names'.

They couldn't really do anything except refuse to cooperate, and keep their position that the leakers would be criminally responsible for leaking classified materials.

Given the efforts that were made to whisteblow but not cause harm like identifying people - working with major newspapers and withholding 15,000 documents until they are carefully examined - the White House has some discretion in how it pursues the issue, but I suspect the military leaker, allegedly Bradely something, is going to get quite harsh treatment.

There are disputes about how many names of informants were endangers, but the reports it was many might be as accurate as the charges of rape. I'm not sure.

 

[Craig234]

There are proper channels to go through.

Not really, but that doesn't mean carte blanche for releasing info, either.

 

[Kappo]

Which shows your immorality and that explains a lot of your politics, that you would prefer there was a rape for your entertainment.

There will always be rape. Hell, I get raped every single paycheck I get. Which is explained by your politics.

The point is, if there is a rape to happen, this would have been entertaining to watch.