Anbyone else offended by the Coke commercial

[Matt1970]

I. do. not. care.

Rage away...

your your your your your your your your your your your your

haahahhaha:awe:

Hypocrisy, thy name is UberNeuman.

 

[UberNeuman]

Hypocrisy, thy name is UberNeuman.

 

[Demoralized]

Grow up and shut the fuck up OP. Many cultures means many languages, and Coke found a way to please them all in one ad. English is the official language, however companies can still target the masses.

 

[Jhhnn]

I hope they never needed to call 911 for anything.

911 didn't exist. They'd call the cops if they had to, yell help & keep giving the address. 911 already knows the address of a landline.

Which is mere duh-version, anyway.

 

[Matt1970]

911 didn't exist. They'd call the cops if they had to, yell help & keep giving the address. 911 already knows the address of a landline.

Which is mere duh-version, anyway.

So then how would they know what kind of emergency services to send? Fire? Ambulance? Police?

 

[Victorian Gray]

I did answer it. Once again you just don't like the answer.

Your stating that some (how many? 10? 100? 1 million?) people who moved to the US years ago (how many years ago?) can only speak a few words of English (and if they can speak even "10 words of English" then I guess that they're not actually refusing to learn are they?) does not answer the 2 questions that I asked you.

Here they are again. Remember, the quotations are the actual words that *you* wrote.

Who is "refusing to adopt the language"?

Who is saying that you need to "staff every single 911 center with someone that speaks every single language and start putting up road signs in every language."?

 

[Angry Irishman]

And the sharks swarm in.....

 

[spittledip]

The thing that offends me most is how a company that produces garbage such as Coke would use this song to sell their horrible product. Advertisers have absolutely no shame. As if there is something great to be had by drinking a can of water, sugar, and chemicals. I am not sure which is worse: the people who use such tricks to sell their products or the suckers who eat it up.

 

[UberNeuman]

And the sharks swarm in.....

Which as is weak as the OP's first post. Your not making a real statement...

your your your..

 

[MomentsofSanity]

So then how would they know what kind of emergency services to send? Fire? Ambulance? Police?

Emergency services have used external translation services for years in the event a caller doesn't speak English, Spanish or any other language they can immediately translate using staff resources.

Why would that need to change suddenly?

 

[Matt1970]

Your stating that some (how many? 10? 100? 1 million?) people who moved to the US years ago (how many years ago?) can only speak a few words of English (and if they can speak even "10 words of English" then I guess that they're not actually refusing to learn are they?) does not answer the 2 questions that I asked you.

Here they are again. Remember, the quotations are the actual words that *you* wrote.

Who is "refusing to adopt the language"?

Who is saying that you need to "staff every single 911 center with someone that speaks every single language and start putting up road signs in every language."?

I have seen it reported quite a few times. Cops will tell you they have problems going to calls where the complainants don't speak English. Here are some numbers:

http://www.examiner.com/article/seven-percent-of-americans-don-t-speak-english

Here is a story about the problems with 911 and foreign languages:
Only two of New York City's 74 on-duty 911 operators on average - or 3% - speak Spanish, police say, despite a city population of almost 2 million Hispanics.

http://www.nydailynews.com/archives...h-speakers-wait-long-hotline-article-1.882234

This is common sense stuff pal.

 

[Matt1970]

Emergency services have used external translation services for years in the event a caller doesn't speak English, Spanish or any other language they can immediately translate using staff resources.

Why would that need to change suddenly?

You got a source on that? Even if true, have you ever dialed 911? Did you get a Press 1 for English, 2 for Spanish, 3 for germen, etc...etc...

Probably not. That means whoever answers the phone now has to identify the language and then connect them with the proper translator.

 

[MomentsofSanity]

You got a source on that? Even if true, have you ever dialed 911? Did you get a Press 1 for English, 2 for Spanish, 3 for germen, etc...etc...

Probably not. That means whoever answers the phone now has to identify the language and then connect them with the proper translator.

http://www.starnewsonline.com/article/20110807/articles/110809732#gsc.tab=0

Just a quick example.

Have you ever asked an emergency services operator how they handle these types of calls instead of speculating? See I've worked with them. I actually know what happens. I don't need to speculate.

 

[5150Joker]

English should have been made the official national language long ago.

 

[nageov3t]

surprised that the language thing is drawing more outrage than the fact that it's the first ever Superbowl ad to feature a family with same-sex parents.

 

[CitizenKain]

They'll get there soon enough, probably after the rageosphere goes after cheerios again.

 

[fskimospy]

Some people need to be outraged constantly. It's part of their world view.

 

[Angry Irishman]

Which as is weak as the OP's first post. Your not making a real statement...

your your your..

Sorry, I didn't realize my statement needs to fulfill your non-specific wishes. Perhaps if I bash the OP like yourself would that meet YOUR expectations? ...Typical of this forum.

 

[Vic]

English should have been made the official national language long ago.

The reason why it hasn't is because a national language would be unconstitutional. An amendment would be required to change that. Have fun. I'll think about supporting it when the proposed language is called American, not English.

 

[sandorski]

Even if there was an Official Language, this commercial would still exist.

 

[Geosurface]

The thing which offends me about this commercial and the notions it endorses, is the fact that all of the places these immigrants which are shown have come from - are still homogeneous.

50 years from now on current trends, Mexico's demographics will look about the same. Most African nations' demographics will look about the same (just with way, way more people), and most Asian and middle eastern nations will be demographically consistent too.

It is only the nations which have traditionally had a white majority which are on track to dramatically change demographically within 50 years, and in fact already have changed dramatically. In 1960 the US was 90% white. And of course European nations were very homogeneous. A great number of European nations are now on a very clear trajectory to a white minority. The people who have lived in those lands for 50,000 years or more, on track to be a minority in the span of a single lifetime. In their own lands.

So I guess what bothers and confuses me is why diversity and multi-culturalism seem to be such a one way street. Why it just seems to mean one group, and only one group being phased out globally and no longer having any homeland(s.)

That seems unfair to me.

There's also the fact that multicultural societies don't really work. Once this nation transfers from being one with a strong base culture which is assimilating smaller groups of other cultures, into one where you have several cultures all vying for influence, which it rapidly is becoming... the fault lines are going to really break us apart.

Oh and it's also completely counter to what the founders of this nation envisioned it to be, which was not a melting pot in any way.

 

[Victorian Gray]

I have seen it reported quite a few times. Cops will tell you they have problems going to calls where the complainants don't speak English. Here are some numbers:

http://www.examiner.com/article/seven-percent-of-americans-don-t-speak-english

Nowhere in that story does anyone claim that people are refusing to learn English. So, still waiting for an answer to question # 1

Here is a story about the problems with 911 and foreign languages:
Only two of New York City's 74 on-duty 911 operators on average - or 3% - speak Spanish, police say, despite a city population of almost 2 million Hispanics.

http://www.nydailynews.com/archives...h-speakers-wait-long-hotline-article-1.882234

And nowhere in this story does anyone demand that all languages have to be provided for 911 or that all streets should have road signs in all languages. So, still waiting for an answer to question # 2

This is common sense stuff pal.

Well, "pal" it may well be "common sense stuff" but I'm still waiting for you to be able to back up your claims with real, honest to goodness *facts*.

 

[Victorian Gray]

The thing which offends me about this commercial and the notions it endorses, is the fact that all of the places these immigrants which are shown have come from - are still homogeneous.

[blah, blah, blah snipped]

Oh and it's also completely counter to what the founders of this nation envisioned it to be, which was not a melting pot in any way.

So, how many Americans do you know that want to emigrate to Thailand? China? Uganda? Sri Lanka? India?

It's good to know that you have so much 'concern'. It's enough to make a person weep.

 

[They Live]

The thing which offends me about this commercial and the notions it endorses, is the fact that all of the places these immigrants which are shown have come from - are still homogeneous.

50 years from now on current trends, Mexico's demographics will look about the same. Most African nations' demographics will look about the same (just with way, way more people), and most Asian and middle eastern nations will be demographically consistent too.

It is only the nations which have traditionally had a white majority which are on track to dramatically change demographically within 50 years, and in fact already have changed dramatically. In 1960 the US was 90% white. And of course European nations were very homogeneous. A great number of European nations are now on a very clear trajectory to a white minority. The people who have lived in those lands for 50,000 years or more, on track to be a minority in the span of a single lifetime. In their own lands.

So I guess what bothers and confuses me is why diversity and multi-culturalism seem to be such a one way street. Why it just seems to mean one group, and only one group being phased out globally and no longer having any homeland(s.)

That seems unfair to me.

There's also the fact that multicultural societies don't really work. Once this nation transfers from being one with a strong base culture which is assimilating smaller groups of other cultures, into one where you have several cultures all vying for influence, which it rapidly is becoming... the fault lines are going to really break us apart.

Oh and it's also completely counter to what the founders of this nation envisioned it to be, which was not a melting pot in any way.

Spouting off some white nationalist talking points, eh?

 

[Geosurface]

So, how many Americans do you know that want to emigrate to Thailand? China? Uganda? Sri Lanka? India?

I understand the motivations of people who want to immigrate to first world nations, and I don't blame them.

However, if 500 million people from Africa all want to move to Maine, and we allow all 500 million to do so, Maine is no longer Maine. It would be an incredibly over-populated place and the culture there would be unrecognizable. The former inhabitants would be a tiny minority and would be miserable.

A very extreme example but I believe that the same basic fact applies to immigration on a smaller, slower scale too.

I know that a lot of people in the third world would love to move to Japan or South Korea and even China. They are very restrictive compared to us, and as a result those nations retain their character and their unique diversity which would otherwise be swept away and lost.

Do you think the punishment for a people who create a desirable society should be ethnic cleansing, loss of majority status, or displacement?

It's good to know that you have so much 'concern'. It's enough to make a person weep.

If you believe I'm not actually concerned about this, and that I'm somehow messing with people by claiming I am, you're rather wide of the mark. I assure you, these trends actually worry me. That worry is sincere. Is it possible I'm overestimating the issue? I could be. It's also possible that those who are dismissive are underestimating it.

Spouting off some white nationalist talking points, eh?

Call them what you will. For me they are trends which legitimately worry me and which I find to be unfair and skewed.