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Puppies04

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So if they don't run every benchmark does it count? Like some people aren't posting 3dmark. How will you weed out people using Lucid MVP to enhance scores too?

Other than that I'll post back in a few minutes with my scores

The people not running 3d mark don't have DX11 cards from what I can see. I fail to see why anyone unable to run DX11 should be worried about "winning" this e-peen show.

As for Lucid MVP it is a piece of software that unlocks certain hardware capabilities. If you choose not to run it and your scores suffer because of that then you have nobody to blame but yourself, or are we banning afterburner aswell. Hell lets make it real fair lets ban overclocking completly. In fact lets just say only people with stock dells can enter.... catch my drift?
 

cmdrdredd

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The people not running 3d mark don't have DX11 cards from what I can see. I fail to see why anyone unable to run DX11 should be worried about "winning" this e-peen show.

As for Lucid MVP it is a piece of software that unlocks certain hardware capabilities. If you choose not to run it and your scores suffer because of that then you have nobody to blame but yourself, or are we banning afterburner aswell. Hell lets make it real fair lets ban overclocking completly. In fact lets just say only people with stock dells can enter.... catch my drift?

Uh...it's a friendly comp but there should be guidelines as well in order to keep the playing field level. All benchmark threads have rules on every forum.

It's not about e-peen. Maybe you think that way but for the majority of us this is a fun hobby and has nothing to do with showing off.
 

Puppies04

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Uh...it's a friendly comp but there should be guidelines as well in order to keep the playing field level. All benchmark threads have rules on every forum.

It's not about e-peen. Maybe you think that way but for the majority of us this is a fun hobby and has nothing to do with showing off.

I agree, maybe if Don wasn't so smashed when he started this he might have set a few ground rules :D.

Until they are though all we can do is stick to the existing rules which is run those 4 benchmark builds and post our best scores which is what we have done.

P.S. i'm sorry but if you really believe that anyone who builds their own high performance/oc'd rig doesn't have a little "my rig is better than your rig" attitude going on then you are stupendously naive.

Sure most of us don't make a big deal about it because in the long run it really doesn't matter but that doesn't mean it doesn't exist. If I was that competitive I wouldn't even bother posting I doubt this rig is in the top 50 or maybe even top 100 of AT members, i'm here for a laugh like everyone else hopefully.

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Every single overclocking thread on this forum or the VCG forum.

P.P.S When did I say this wasn't a friendly comp? Also notice the "'s around the word "winning" in my quote. They are there for a reason.
 
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cmdrdredd

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It's almost impossible to have the attitude you describe when so many are running a 4Ghz+ i5 or i7 these days. Very little difference in most systems I see being built or asked about.
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Puppies04

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Naive eh? It's almost impossible to have the attitude you describe when so many are running a 4Ghz+ i5 or i7 these days. Everything is pretty much the same except clock speed and memory frequency. There is very little difference in a good 80% of the systems you see now. So how can you have the attitude you describe if everyone runs the same stuff?

Strange I haven't seen 1 set of numbers in this thread that are remotely alike. Weird considering we are all "running the same stuff"
 

cmdrdredd

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Strange I haven't seen 1 set of numbers in this thread that are remotely alike. Weird considering we are all "running the same stuff"

Then you haven't been looking. Check your scores vs mine. Close aren't they except the Graphics stuff.

People with old systems or laptops aren't what I was talking about.

Anyway if you go back to my questions to Don...he did ask us if we had questions. So I asked questions that were valid. What is the problem?
 
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Puppies04

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Then you haven't been looking. Check your scores vs mine. Close aren't they except the Graphics stuff.

People with old systems or laptops aren't what I was talking about.

Anyway if you go back to my questions to Don...he did ask us if we had questions. So I asked questions that were valid. What is the problem?

I wasn't aware there was a problem (just a difference of opinion), I voiced my ideas you voiced yours.
 

cmdrdredd

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I wasn't aware there was a problem (just a difference of opinion), I voiced my ideas you voiced yours.

Fine so let me win so I feel special...or not and I'll go pout. Either way. :D

BTW: If I run MVP I get around 12.8k in 3dmark in case you or anyone were curious. I tried out quick sync which was actually slower than software for me for some reason and then uninstalled it.
 
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Puppies04

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Just checked and I actually had virtu turned off on my previous test. Score goes up from 5200 to just over 6000 but it was jittery as hell. Will play around with it tomorrow, going to sleep now.
 

chimaxi83

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Using MVP to boost bench scores is just as cheap as AMD users disabling tessellation in Catalyst to boost their scores. Just sayin.
 

cmdrdredd

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Using MVP to boost bench scores is just as cheap as AMD users disabling tessellation in Catalyst to boost their scores. Just sayin.

I really wish there was a way to see if MVP was used in 3dmark. I tried comparing scores and saw people with 11k, 12k etc using my same hardware and clock speed (dunno about GPU overclock). Then I tried MVP and found out why the scores changed. Funny thing is, all my games ran exactly the same. No better...only benchmarks went up. I have no idea if the vsync stuff helps.

Anyway this is the CPU section and MVP really doesn't apply. I think cinebench is a pretty good CPU benchmark to go by overall.
 

Don Karnage

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I agree, maybe if Don wasn't so smashed when he started this he might have set a few ground rules :D.

Until they are though all we can do is stick to the existing rules which is run those 4 benchmark builds and post our best scores which is what we have done.

P.S. i'm sorry but if you really believe that anyone who builds their own high performance/oc'd rig doesn't have a little "my rig is better than your rig" attitude going on then you are stupendously naive.

Sure most of us don't make a big deal about it because in the long run it really doesn't matter but that doesn't mean it doesn't exist. If I was that competitive I wouldn't even bother posting I doubt this rig is in the top 50 or maybe even top 100 of AT members, i'm here for a laugh like everyone else hopefully.

Sources.
Every single overclocking thread on this forum or the VCG forum.

P.P.S When did I say this wasn't a friendly comp? Also notice the "'s around the word "winning" in my quote. They are there for a reason.

Dude i drank so much vodka that night. :biggrin:

As for rules. We're all adults on this forum.. Some of us don't act like it but we're adults dammit. Lucid is out but im not very worried about it as it only works for single GPU's and this competition will be won by someone with more then 1. Also most of us will be able to weed out a lucid inflated result.

Also no "I'm better then you" attitudes. Just have fun and enjoy yourself.
 

SlowSpyder

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Dude i drank so much vodka that night. :biggrin:

As for rules. We're all adults on this forum.. Some of us don't act like it but we're adults dammit. Lucid is out but im not very worried about it as it only works for single GPU's and this competition will be won by someone with more then 1. Also most of us will be able to weed out a lucid inflated result.

Also no "I'm better then you" attitudes. Just have fun and enjoy yourself.

This... Really this should just be for fun. I mean, really, I ran numbers with a Thuban just because it was fun and to see just where I stack up against the latest and greatest. I put this system together in March 2008, I had no hopes of being the fastest. Now I see a lot of talk, some potential flame bait about AMD and tessellation, but not too many scores. Let's get benching, enthusiasts.
 

Kenmitch

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Hmm....Looks at thread then looks at sig and thinks Oh crap!

I have no gpu horsepower to hang with the big boys :)

Cinebench seems not so demanding on a side note.

Rig in sig at 5ghz....Ok guys don't laugh too hard at my whimpy gpu :)

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Temp overclock at 5.4ghz (Highest I've done with all cores) < So far anyways.

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WTF is up with the OpenGL scores? Was 5xxx series better in OpenGL?

Hmm....Looks at SupePI 1mb score above and looks at HWBot for 2550k world records and thinks might just have to dethrone the #1 score pretty soon. Maybe up the bclk up a little bit? Not sure if my motherboard can take the punishment as it's not built for uber high overclocking I'd think.

55x with all cores enabled gives me the " Windows has encountered a critical error and will be shut down in one minute " error. Got tired of playing around with the voltages and settings to see what helps. Close but no cigar for now!
 
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grkM3

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My 2600k wont boot at anything over 51 stable and I need to up the bclk to get to around 5.3-5.4ghz and now I wish I never sold my 55x chip.

My best pi run is 51x105 with 7-10-9-26-1t timings and got 6.942 If I had your chip kenmitch I would run a very low 6 and maybe break into the high 5s since you can boot with a 55x multy.

IM jamming 1.625 boot volts and everything set on extreme and load line set to 100% so its prolly seeing 1.7+ volts with load but this sucker wont clock past 5.4 for even benching and is maxed out,even with dryice there is no hope for this chip since its not throttling from temps yet.
 
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AdamK47

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I'll give it a shot when I get home. I'll use my everyday puny overclocks listed in my sig.
 

Kenmitch

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My 2600k wont boot at anything over 51 stable and I need to up the bclk to get to around 5.3-5.4ghz and now I wish I never sold my 55x chip.

My best pi run is 51x105 with 7-10-9-26-1t timings and got 6.942 If I had your chip kenmitch I would run a very low 6 and maybe break into the high 5s since you can boot with a 55x multy.

IM jamming 1.625 boot volts and everything set on extreme and load line set to 100% so its prolly seeing 1.7+ volts with load but this sucker wont clock past 5.4 for even benching and is maxed out,even with dryice there is no hope for this chip since its not throttling from temps yet.

My chip is pretty strong for a broken 2500k as people call them. The 2550k isn't too popular on HWBOT it looks like. Not alot of entries so far. Looks like some of the records are within grasp for me possibly.

My best SuperPI run so far was 6.890 at 5.4ghz which is pretty close to world record 6.750 for the 2550k. This looks reachable but the score doesn't drop much as the speed goes up. Might need bclk manipulation for this one.

On current motherboard my chip looks to crap out somewhere between 5.5-5.6ghz. Not sure if a better motherboard would help me or not. Most likely my next motherboard is gonna be a Asrock z77 mini-itx as I'm looking to downsize my rig soon and I don't game anyways. I figure for my need anything around 4.2ghz or so would be good enough. I figure a 3570k would allow that with reasonable temps anyways.

Gonna reboot and see if I can get the frequency record for 2550k as it's only 5552.77MHz :)
 

grkM3

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If you want the record for your chip go into bios and shut off 2 cores,run the ram as tight as you can get it and boot into windows and set super pi to use 1 core and set priority to high.

Shut off all networking and boot as clean as you can using msconfig and then keep upping the bclk and benching!!!!
 

Kenmitch

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If you want the record for your chip go into bios and shut off 2 cores,run the ram as tight as you can get it and boot into windows and set super pi to use 1 core and set priority to high.

Shut off all networking and boot as clean as you can using msconfig and then keep upping the bclk and benching!!!!

Wouldn't 1M SuperPI be running in cache only?

I tried with all 4 cores and got into windows but crashed. Couldn' t get back into bios as lost usb mouse and keyboard. Think I was trying 54x103 at the time. Bitch getting to cmos jumper with water cooling. Got to go to work so I'll try tonight possibly. Noticed rads need dust blown out while I was in there.

I did get a validation of 5511.77MHz so far with 4 cores active.
 
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grkM3

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You will clock higher with 2 active cores and if you look at the way windows scheduler works it breaks the load into 4 threads.

Trust me you will score higher forcing pi to run on one core and you will hit 5.6ghz if you physically turn off the other cores.

Max record runs are usually done with only one or two active cores