Anandtech member murders 2, commits suicide in Aliso Viejo

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RossMAN

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natto fire

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Originally posted by: Nitemare
Originally posted by: Captain Howdy
Originally posted by: Red
Wow

Colt45 called him names =(


That's exactly what I was talking about. This board is not supportive in any way, it is just a way to test how much sh!t you can put up with. Someone should call and correct that second article. Not sure if the mods actually helped, but not finding it too likely...

Hate to say this but it's Survival of the fittest. Those who commit suicide are the weakest link....except for those Ahole attention whores that threaten to all the time. Your mother and father granted them the greatest gift of all, life. All he did was throw that away and take out two innocent people as well. Freund is nothing more than a common murderer.


I wasn't trying to blame an internet forum for this in any way... I was just trying to correct an error that I was already called on. (It might have been a different forum) but I think we can all agree this place isn't supportive, and it doesn't have to be. Hell it makes for some pretty funny stuff actually. Seeing people getting so worked up over what a bunch of people hiding behind a keyboard is one of the finer things in life. And you know what? I agree with you 100%, my father and I have both been diagnosed Bipolar, and I have contemplated suicide a couple times. Luckily for me I have a strong family and it always boiled down to me not being able to do something so selfish to hurt my very supportive family and friends like that. Suicide is selfish and it is even worse to have to take your anger out on someone else before you go, Bradruth was right on the money. It's the crazy christian Southpaw that is all "boohoo he was a tortured soul, society blah blah blah" And seeking therapeutic help on the internet is the most lame-brained idea I have ever heard. Anonymity is whats great about the internet, and it is also it's bane. Thats why it cracks me up when people try to get legal advice, or car advice from these forums, I mean honestly how pathetic are you if you can't ask some real people face to face? I wouldn't immedietly call this guy scum, but he definitely made some VERY poor choices. I mean who's to say that dad didn't rape his daughter every night and she was addicted to crack/cocaine? Would they be scum as well? Hard to make assumptions wihtout getting the whole story, which is why trying to make assumptions about people over the internet is pretty retarted. IMO
 

olds

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Mar 3, 2000
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Originally posted by: Captain Howdy
Originally posted by: Nitemare
Originally posted by: Captain Howdy
Originally posted by: Red
Wow

Colt45 called him names =(


That's exactly what I was talking about. This board is not supportive in any way, it is just a way to test how much sh!t you can put up with. Someone should call and correct that second article. Not sure if the mods actually helped, but not finding it too likely...

Hate to say this but it's Survival of the fittest. Those who commit suicide are the weakest link....except for those Ahole attention whores that threaten to all the time. Your mother and father granted them the greatest gift of all, life. All he did was throw that away and take out two innocent people as well. Freund is nothing more than a common murderer.


I wasn't trying to blame an internet forum for this in any way... I was just trying to correct an error that I was already called on. (It might have been a different forum) but I think we can all agree this place isn't supportive, and it doesn't have to be. Hell it makes for some pretty funny stuff actually. Seeing people getting so worked up over what a bunch of people hiding behind a keyboard is one of the finer things in life. And you know what? I agree with you 100%, my father and I have both been diagnosed Bipolar, and I have contemplated suicide a couple times. Luckily for me I have a strong family and it always boiled down to me not being able to do something so selfish to hurt my very supportive family and friends like that. Suicide is selfish and it is even worse to have to take your anger out on someone else before you go, Bradruth was right on the money. It's the crazy christian Southpaw that is all "boohoo he was a tortured soul, society blah blah blah" And seeking therapeutic help on the internet is the most lame-brained idea I have ever heard. Anonymity is whats great about the internet, and it is also it's bane. Thats why it cracks me up when people try to get legal advice, or car advice from these forums, I mean honestly how pathetic are you if you can't ask some real people face to face? I wouldn't immedietly call this guy scum, but he definitely made some VERY poor choices. I mean who's to say that dad didn't rape his daughter every night and she was addicted to crack/cocaine? Would they be scum as well? Hard to make assumptions wihtout getting the whole story, which is why trying to make assumptions about people over the internet is pretty retarted. IMO

What needs to be corrected in the second article?
 

Thoreau

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Originally posted by: LadyBuggy
Originally posted by: Thoreau
Originally posted by: Xylitol
Sad that he died
Sad that he was teased
Sad that he killed his daughter and a man

Reverse the order of that, then drop the last two items. Only then will it be correct.

So it's not sad that people teased him when he was alive because of an illness that he couldn't help?

I agree that it's horrible that he murdered two people, but I also think it's a tragedy that he took his own life.

I'm supposed to have ADHD according to my childhood shrinks. Does that make it oh so very sad that I, much like ANY kid going to school and living life, was teased, ridiculed, etc?

The kid was a murderer, plain and simple. While you are not disputing that fact, you are trying to find ways to transfer sympathy from the real victims tho the one who CREATED two victims in this mess. I don't care what 'condition' a person is diagnosed with, and I definitely don't care that he suffered from the same teasing that every 'geek' on earth gets from classmates... it does not make him a victim.

Could a tree-hugging environment have helped this kid? Maybe. Winning the lottery might have also changed his outlook on life, or getting laid perhaps. The fact of the matter is that this is reality, and nothing is just given to a person. Be it worldly goods and wealth or love, care and all that happy people stuff. Killing two people doesn't make him any more deserving either.
 

totalcommand

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Originally posted by: jotosuds
Originally posted by: tami
Originally posted by: jotosuds
that kid sucks at murderous rampage suicide. if i went on one i'd take at least 20 people down with me.

what a loser.

good cover up, kid..

nice try. your original comments have been quoted.

omgz youse GOTS ME!!! :Q

lol.. you guys seriously have no sense of humour. :roll:

At least wait a few days or weeks before the humor dude.
 

moshquerade

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Nov 1, 2001
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Originally posted by: Proletariat
Originally posted by: Nitemare
Originally posted by: Captain Howdy
Originally posted by: Red
Wow

Colt45 called him names =(


That's exactly what I was talking about. This board is not supportive in any way, it is just a way to test how much sh!t you can put up with. Someone should call and correct that second article. Not sure if the mods actually helped, but not finding it too likely...

Hate to say this but it's Survival of the fittest. Those who commit suicide are the weakest link....except for those Ahole attention whores that threaten to all the time. Your mother and father granted them the greatest gift of all, life. All he did was throw that away and take out two innocent people as well. Freund is nothing more than a common murderer.

I'd like to see you in real life.

Somehow I don't believe most of the nerds here could ever survive a real "survival of the fittest".
i have seen him in real life. he is far from the nerd-type and very fit.

so what of it now? :confused:
 

Celstar

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I don't know this AT member. I lurk the forums here, but I hardly ever visit OT due to the high amounts of insensitivity that goes on. What I usually see are jerks like jotosuds bag on people only because they present a view that isn't popular. Some people here think that William was a douchebag for killing those people. If there is a hell, he may very well belong there since there is no excuse for taking someone else's life without good cause. But few ever want to acknowledge that mental illness is a serious problem that can drive someone to extremes. It doesn't help that people can be so cruel too which easily exacerbates the illness. Why don't more people take more blame for the hurt they cause others....

RIP to William, and RIP to the two victims.
 

Proletariat

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Dec 9, 2004
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Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: Proletariat
Originally posted by: Nitemare
Originally posted by: Captain Howdy
Originally posted by: Red
Wow

Colt45 called him names =(


That's exactly what I was talking about. This board is not supportive in any way, it is just a way to test how much sh!t you can put up with. Someone should call and correct that second article. Not sure if the mods actually helped, but not finding it too likely...

Hate to say this but it's Survival of the fittest. Those who commit suicide are the weakest link....except for those Ahole attention whores that threaten to all the time. Your mother and father granted them the greatest gift of all, life. All he did was throw that away and take out two innocent people as well. Freund is nothing more than a common murderer.

I'd like to see you in real life.

Somehow I don't believe most of the nerds here could ever survive a real "survival of the fittest".
i have seen him in real life. he is far from the nerd-type and very fit.

so what of it now? :confused:

I bet you have :)

Believe me I bet you have.
 

moshquerade

No Lifer
Nov 1, 2001
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Originally posted by: Proletariat
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: Proletariat
Originally posted by: Nitemare
Originally posted by: Captain Howdy
Originally posted by: Red
Wow

Colt45 called him names =(


That's exactly what I was talking about. This board is not supportive in any way, it is just a way to test how much sh!t you can put up with. Someone should call and correct that second article. Not sure if the mods actually helped, but not finding it too likely...

Hate to say this but it's Survival of the fittest. Those who commit suicide are the weakest link....except for those Ahole attention whores that threaten to all the time. Your mother and father granted them the greatest gift of all, life. All he did was throw that away and take out two innocent people as well. Freund is nothing more than a common murderer.

I'd like to see you in real life.

Somehow I don't believe most of the nerds here could ever survive a real "survival of the fittest".
i have seen him in real life. he is far from the nerd-type and very fit.

so what of it now? :confused:

I bet you have :)

Believe me I bet you have.
stop being a troublemaker, really.

 

JulesMaximus

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Jul 3, 2003
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I heard about that on the John & Ken show earlier. Sent shivers down my spine actually. Fricken psycho...:|
 

natto fire

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Jan 4, 2000
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Originally posted by: oldsmoboat

What needs to be corrected in the second article?

Well, it said he was getting support from an internet forum, it was kind of a jab (as in AT is NOT supportive). As i said in my post though, I was called on it earlier in the thread that he could have joined a different forum to "seek solace".
 

Proletariat

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Dec 9, 2004
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Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: Proletariat
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: Proletariat
Originally posted by: Nitemare
Originally posted by: Captain Howdy
Originally posted by: Red
Wow

Colt45 called him names =(


That's exactly what I was talking about. This board is not supportive in any way, it is just a way to test how much sh!t you can put up with. Someone should call and correct that second article. Not sure if the mods actually helped, but not finding it too likely...

Hate to say this but it's Survival of the fittest. Those who commit suicide are the weakest link....except for those Ahole attention whores that threaten to all the time. Your mother and father granted them the greatest gift of all, life. All he did was throw that away and take out two innocent people as well. Freund is nothing more than a common murderer.

I'd like to see you in real life.

Somehow I don't believe most of the nerds here could ever survive a real "survival of the fittest".
i have seen him in real life. he is far from the nerd-type and very fit.

so what of it now? :confused:

I bet you have :)

Believe me I bet you have.
stop being a troublemaker, really.
I think I've been quite polite my dear :laugh:
 

Crescent13

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Jan 12, 2005
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Man...I can only hope we didn't make him do it. Seriously, this forum is filled with some crazy stuff, most people can handle it and think it's funny (like me), others...
 

moshquerade

No Lifer
Nov 1, 2001
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Originally posted by: Crescent13
Man...I can only hope we didn't make him do it. Seriously, this forum is filled with some crazy stuff, most people can handle it and think it's funny (like me), others...
that's preposterous :confused:

 

Arkitech

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Apr 13, 2000
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What a fvckwad!! Regardless what may or may not have been said to the guy on this board it's no excuse for taking the lives of 2 innocent people. If there's a hell somewhere in this universe I hope that bastard is there getting sodomized with a red hot steel spike.


I have no sympathy for murderous a$$holes :|
 

tami

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Nov 14, 2004
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Originally posted by: Crescent13
Man...I can only hope we didn't make him do it. Seriously, this forum is filled with some crazy stuff, most people can handle it and think it's funny (like me), others...

he hasn't logged onto AT since 8/30. whatever triggered him would probably have been a more recent event.
 

BlackAdam

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Jul 16, 2004
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I really have no sympathy for this kid. Suicide is for the weak. Taking the innocent lives of two people with him is just pathetic. It doesn't matter to me that a disease hindered his social life, as that's thrown out the window for what he dead. Just pathetic.