Originally posted by: Duvie
Seems pretty good.....
Gaming looks better but ofcourse AT used high res but turned off all AA and AF...so not comparable to other sites....
I see great ocing but nowhere do they list the temps they got...It maybe th efact they are running the Asus i975x mobo that is widely considered to be off 15-20 degrees....
I also learned something the X6800 is the only cpu with totally unlocked multis...can you say like the FX of AMD???
And I don?t get the overclocking part.
The article says he could overclock to 4ghz on air (w/ tuniq) and stable but w/ stock cooling he could overclock up to 3.4ghz stable. That is 600 MHz difference. Since when heatpipe can improve overclocking? Does he mean w/ stock cooling he could not post to windows from 3.4-4ghz? Improving cooling system will improve overclocking just a tad and during stress test. Another word, w/ A64, 3000 I could post to window @ 2.85 ghz w/ stock cooling but cant run test. If I improve the cooling I can post to window the same highest speed (2.85ghz) and probably run prime 1 minutes. But no matter what cooling I use I can not go higher than 2.85ghz. W/ LN2 I might be able to post to windows and take screenshot @ 3.2 ghz but that's it.
There is a consensus in the net that only a few first time released conroe could do 4ghz on air but not stable. 99.9% of the ES that the privileged acquired can only do that w/ LN2.
But Anad can do it w/ tuniq?
This is very important to notice and always remember when retail conroes are in hands of consumer, to see if Anand's statement holds.
And as you said- no temp. was mentioned, and no benchmarked conducted for overclocking.
I want to know how an overclock conroe holds against an overclocked A64 x2 3800, 4000, 4200, 4600, 4800, and 5000. Never mind FX, because I want to see price/performance of conroe vs lower end AMD.
I have seen video encoding of A64 directly reflecting the percentage of overclocking. This not the case w/ conroe. Another word if both A64 and conroe overclocked 20%, A64 shows 20% improvement(w/ little degree of adjustment), but conroe shows only 5 to 7% improvement. This tells me, that AMD's IMC plays a big part, and percetage of overclocking directly reflects percetage of improvement. Thus it could be possible to overclock A64 3800 x2 to 2.7ghz and beat a E6400 overclocked to same speed (if can). Most importantly use stock cooling (or better heatpipe for both) and let them run stress test for several hrs (prime95 for example) and see which one holds up.
Furthermore, Anandtech did not test any in raid (AFAIK) specially raid 5. We know U.S. Government turned down woodcrest because of raid5 problem. So it is imperative to know how conroe does in raid.
All and All, I am very disappointed w/ the way Anad presented the review and the way wording and describing conroe. Certainly it is not a "King" or an "Empire" to strike back. This sound like fanboysm. Anad should have known better.
I see the TG's red card photo, which clearly shows fanboysm. The red card means the player has committed a serious fault in soccer game comprised of 22 players. Has AMD committed such similar fault as that red carded player? AMD and Intel are 2 players, the soccer game has 22, what happens to 21 other players and what do they represent?
I am just trying to understand the symbolic meaning of the red card photo by TG, but does not make sense to me.
I am afraid to say, that I am suspecting Intel spend a whole lot of money for this conroe publicity, but I am one that will not buy into it.
I personally think for the vast majority of users this will be the CPU to have if you are not into becoming a benchmark professional and want to have a great "under 1K" Intel system.
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