I would take an X6800 anyway of the week, I like not having to push my FSB all the way to 400 to get a 4GHZ overclock.
Well if you look at the load benchmarks the X6800 doesn't seem that much hotter then E6700 but whatever you want man.
It's hard to say from the sample size of Conroe models and user experiences we have now. Wait till more X6800 and E6700 become available on the market, it takes more then 1 incident of E6700 overclocking to convince me.
10W is not the end of the world overall, but whatever flaots your boat man.
It will be nice not to shudder in horror anymore when someone speaks of buying a Dell for gaming in General Hardware.
Dell often has pretty good prices for people who aren't ready to build it themselves. It's only been the P4 lous-E and space heater dualies than have made their systems a poor choice.
Dell often has pretty good prices for people who aren't ready to build it themselves. It's only been the P4 lous-E and space heater dualies than have made their systems a poor choice.
Me too!Originally posted by: n7
Ah teh results from my fave review site
My opinion of the E6600: :heart::heart:
I can't wait until these hit the street at normal prices... which is very soon.
My new system has already been decided... the E6600 is gonna be at the center and you know I am gonna have to overclock it!
Been overclocking this old Northwood(the last decent Intel cpu before Conroe) @ 3.5GHz for so flippin long and hoping it would burn up and yet it never did. Can't wait to torture an E6600 in same manner! :laugh:
These are happy days for a geek, lol.
Sonikku
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Originally posted by: n7
Ah teh results from my fave review site
My opinion of the E6600: :heart:
My opinion on the inevitable price gouging. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819115001
:| :brokenheart: :| :brokenheart: :| :brokenheart:
The benches are VERY impressive. But for what limited stock the OEM chain is going to have of Conroe, and what prices we're going to be looking at with ebay keeping supply and demand in check, a major price reduction on an energy efficiant 3800+ still looks like a keeper.
n7
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Originally posted by: Sonikku
Originally posted by: n7
Ah teh results from my fave review site
My opinion of the E6600: :heart:
My opinion on the inevitable price gouging. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819115001
:| :brokenheart: :| :brokenheart: :| :brokenheart:
The benches are VERY impressive. But for what limited stock the OEM chain is going to have of Conroe, and what prices we're going to be looking at with ebay keeping supply and demand in check, a major price reduction on an energy efficiant 3800+ still looks like a keeper.
Patience is a virtue
I already know for a Canadian buyer like myself, i'll be waiting a couple months before we have a decent mobo selection here to complement my future E6600
, but that's just the way it is.Originally posted by: n7
Originally posted by: Sonikku
Originally posted by: n7
Ah teh results from my fave review site
My opinion of the E6600: :heart:
My opinion on the inevitable price gouging. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819115001
:| :brokenheart: :| :brokenheart: :| :brokenheart:
The benches are VERY impressive. But for what limited stock the OEM chain is going to have of Conroe, and what prices we're going to be looking at with ebay keeping supply and demand in check, a major price reduction on an energy efficiant 3800+ still looks like a keeper.
Patience is a virtue
I already know for a Canadian buyer like myself, i'll be waiting a couple months before we have a decent mobo selection here to complement my future E6600
Hmm, your a fellow Canandian eh? Interesting..
The upcoming motherboard reviews will have 1280x1024 no aa/af, 1600x1200 4xaa/8xaf, and few other settings.
The Asus P5W is way off when comparing temps to the other boards. The temps remained around 48c to 52C at full load with the Tuniq during overclocking. We will have an additional article up next week on this subject.
We thought it was obvious, but we inserted 'Core 2' after 'only' so you wouldn't think we forgot about FX chips. We can't possibly forget FX62, although 3.6 at default voltage on an X6800 makes it hard to remember the performance of ANY AMD processor.
I confess I am a performance fan first, but I like AMD. Given similar performance I would likely lean toward AMD since they have consistently supported the computer enthusiast over the years. Conroe performance is so good, though, that you simply can't ignore it. It's a fantastic performer.
I hate people that are so biased towards a company when deciding upon better performing/priceerformance products.
Whichever is best, be it AMD or Intel, at a good price to performance ratio is what I will get. Same thing between Nvidia and ATI.
Leave the box already
erformance products.Whichever is best, be it AMD or Intel, at a good price to performance ratio is what I will get. Same thing between Nvidia and ATI.
Leave the box already
umm nice strategy there by intel. selling X6800 now.. a lot of people who have money to brun and cant wait r gonna buy that now. if X6800 is out on newegg now. im guessing they might have it by next week
DrMrLordX
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One thing we should all take from this review is the effect of a higher FSB on Conroe's performance. If you look at this page of the review:
http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=2795&p=6
you can see that DivX 6.1 runs %7.5 faster with a 1333 mhz FSB than with a 1066 mhz FSB at the same CPU clock and similar memory clocks.
What this should tell all the overclockers out there is that you want to max your chip out with the lowest possible multiplier for maximum performance, ESPECIALLY when it comes to video encoding. DivX 6.1 also seems to get a healthy boost from 4 megs of l2 cache vs 2 megs according to this page of Anandtech's article:
http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=2795&p=4
Long story short, someone overclocking an E6600 to 4 ghz with the 9x multiplier will be getting much better performance when encoding video versus someone overclocking an E6800 to 4 ghz with a higher multiplier. However, dropping to a chip with a lower multiplier than the E6600 makes no sense due to the loss of performance from having half the l2 cache of the E6600.
This probably also means that true performance freaks will prefer Conroe over Merom for overclocking unless Merom can reach higher clockspeeds overall.
http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=2795&p=6
you can see that DivX 6.1 runs %7.5 faster with a 1333 mhz FSB than with a 1066 mhz FSB at the same CPU clock and similar memory clocks.
What this should tell all the overclockers out there is that you want to max your chip out with the lowest possible multiplier for maximum performance, ESPECIALLY when it comes to video encoding. DivX 6.1 also seems to get a healthy boost from 4 megs of l2 cache vs 2 megs according to this page of Anandtech's article:
http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=2795&p=4
Long story short, someone overclocking an E6600 to 4 ghz with the 9x multiplier will be getting much better performance when encoding video versus someone overclocking an E6800 to 4 ghz with a higher multiplier. However, dropping to a chip with a lower multiplier than the E6600 makes no sense due to the loss of performance from having half the l2 cache of the E6600.
This probably also means that true performance freaks will prefer Conroe over Merom for overclocking unless Merom can reach higher clockspeeds overall.
Cookie Monster
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The E6700 E6600 99% of the time dominated the top three spot in almost ALL benches.. That is impressive.
The X6800 on the other hand is the new king of the hill. The FX62 cant even touch it even in its own turf the gaming peformance.
The E6300 is defitnately the new X2 3800s competiton, except its faster most of the time, giving the old pentium EE 965 a run for its money. Great value core here.
I like the title. The Empire Strikes Back..
But then, you get the "the return of the jedi".. I wonder how AMD will respond. Price wars anyone?
The X6800 on the other hand is the new king of the hill. The FX62 cant even touch it even in its own turf the gaming peformance.
The E6300 is defitnately the new X2 3800s competiton, except its faster most of the time, giving the old pentium EE 965 a run for its money. Great value core here.
I like the title. The Empire Strikes Back..
But then, you get the "the return of the jedi".. I wonder how AMD will respond. Price wars anyone?
amd IS DEAD until K8L which no one knows if its reallyt faster than kentsfield , so even when K8L comes out. its still an unknown for AMD.
that is true, but for someone who owns a 939 system the x2-3800+ is a much better economical choice as a drop-in upgrade. upgrading from AM2 may not be as bad cause at least no ram upgrade is necessary.
Just the opinion of someone on a (tight) budget...
I would prefer an article where stuff which a normal person has is used.
A64 - X2 4800 - FX 62 on Geforce 7300GT - Radeon 1900XTX crossfire
A64 - X2 4800 - FX 62 on Geforce 7300GT - Radeon 1900XTX crossfire
How long would an article that complex take? Yonks is the answer.
And why change the graphics cards, this is a processor comparison?!
Cookie Monster
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I read the E6700 topped 3.9GHZ... does this mean the E6600 is faster than athe E6700 @ the same overclocked speeds? :S
I'm buying the E6700 soon but will change my mind if this is true... thoughts?
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