Americans... you all confuse me.

[slsmnaz]

Originally posted by: locutus12

Originally posted by: slsmnaz
Maybe you should study up a little before your next post

such as where ? everything i have said is factual as far as China is concearned.

China has screwed themselves with the 1-child thing and state controlled banks. They will NOT be a power unless they make drastic changes or start killing all old people.

 

[Aharami]

Originally posted by: waggy

Originally posted by: Aharami

Originally posted by: sixone
Clinton was not impeached for cheating on his wife. Anyone who says he was is either a liar or stupid.

so what was he impeached for? creating a budget surplus?

hmm how about leiing under oath? naa that can't be it can it?


I do agree Clinton was a great presidant. but the leing under oath was bad. Having a presidant do that is so damn wrong.

but then again going to war without proof is worse. so meh.

damn you for stating my counter-point before I could!
yea lying under oath was bad. But if he was impeached because of that, why hasnt Bush been impeached yet?

 

[slatr]

:roll:

Originally posted by: locutus12
it seems all i hear from americans these days with regards to politics is "dang bleeding heart liberals" or "stupid dumb rednecks" presumably denoting Democrats and Republicans...

i was speaking to my good friend in Oklahoma about current political affairs and he spoke about senator Clinton and Obama going for the race to the white house and he was adamant that not only would neither of them win, but it would be a disaster if a democrat got into office :/

now i put it to him that surely there were bigger issues of global importance and that clinton wasnt a bad president, not perfect but not a bad one at all from an outsiders perspective, i mean the US economy had 75Billion dollar surplus, good growth stable taxes and the best medicare provisions the US has had. To which he replied that clinton was a disater due to monica lewinsky...

now this took me back a bit, maybe its because I am not actually an american but regardless of what happens in a politicians private life surely the main argument must be "were they good professionally" and if they were, surely we can ignore private conduct providing no one has been hurt, i mean you wasted millions of dollars trying to impeach the guy for basically cheating on his wife. it was insane, stupid and looked very childish and pointless to the rest of the world, especially here in england, hell if your a politician here and your not drunk and sleeping with your secretary or a rent boy or both then your not a true member of parliament.

my point to this post is this, i get the feeling that your politicians forget that they are not actually republicans or democrats, but that you are all Americans. your all so busy trying to blame one side or the other for the political mistakes of the present that your missing out on a changing future and from what i can see, failing to prepare for it by allowing the global reputation of the USA to slide thus losing potential diplomatic and economic allies.

in 20 years the USA will no longer be the worlds economic driving power, it will no longer be the worlds richest country, and it will no longer be the most affluent country and eventually its military will be surpassed in size and technology. the Chinese, a communist country, will have successfully overtaken the USA in terms of economics, and with the massive workforce to back them up, it is doubtful anyone will be able to top them for a very long time.

Wake up America, the world is changing, the western world needs you need to change with it.

Divisiveness keeps people busy. Do as I say, not as I do also helps create consternation and draws heat from any real issues.

Like a two party system is enough. Do you want Coke or Pepsi sir?

 

[locutus12]

 

[krunchykrome]

Originally posted by: spidey07

Originally posted by: krunchykrome
Why is it that Eurpoeans are always b!tching about Americans?

Jelousy. It's an ugly emotion.

Australians also.

 

[MmmSkyscraper]

Originally posted by: spidey07

Originally posted by: krunchykrome
Why is it that Eurpoeans are always b!tching about Americans?

Jelousy. It's an ugly emotion.

Maybe cos none of them can spell...

LOLOLOLOLOLOL SPELLING NAZIZ0R!

Love,

Europe

PS Africa says HI2U

 

[spidey07]

Hey!

Africa has lions, so they're cool.

 

[MmmSkyscraper]

Originally posted by: locutus12

Much better than your OP :thumbsup:

 

[krunchykrome]

Originally posted by: MmmSkyscraper

Originally posted by: spidey07

Originally posted by: krunchykrome
Why is it that Eurpoeans are always b!tching about Americans?

Jelousy. It's an ugly emotion.

Maybe cos none of them can spell...

LOLOLOLOLOLOL SPELLING NAZIZ0R!

Love,

Europe

PS Africa says HI2U

Give Africa my noble greetings sir.

 

[MmmSkyscraper]

Originally posted by: spidey07
Hey!

Africa has lions, so they're cool.

Yeah, lions pwn.

Europe has me, so I make up for all the damn foolishness up in here. Kinda. Well, not the French obviously...

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: Aharami

Originally posted by: waggy

Originally posted by: Aharami

Originally posted by: sixone
Clinton was not impeached for cheating on his wife. Anyone who says he was is either a liar or stupid.

so what was he impeached for? creating a budget surplus?

hmm how about leiing under oath? naa that can't be it can it?


I do agree Clinton was a great presidant. but the leing under oath was bad. Having a presidant do that is so damn wrong.

but then again going to war without proof is worse. so meh.

damn you for stating my counter-point before I could!
yea lying under oath was bad. But if he was impeached because of that, why hasnt Bush been impeached yet?

easy. he didn't flat out lie. he always says the reason eh went into iraq was intel. and the intel was faulty!

but yeah i am not happy with going in on what they had. but then hindsight is 20/20

 

[Feldenak]

Originally posted by: krunchykrome
Why is it that Eurpoeans are always b!tching about Americans?

Jealousy.

 

[yllus]

Anyone who thinks China is a threat to #1 position America currently holds economically within the next half-century is astonishingly ignorant.

 

[MmmSkyscraper]

Originally posted by: krunchykrome
Give Africa my noble greetings sir.

The rhinos say you owe them $100 and they know where you live. They look pretty p1ssed dude and they've got a boat with GPS and sh1t :Q

 

[sixone]

Originally posted by: locutus12

Originally posted by: sixone
Clinton was not impeached for cheating on his wife. Anyone who says he was is either a liar or stupid.

i never said he was impeached :/ i said they tried, i was using it as an example of a wast of time and resources and a classic example of one political side clutching at straws at the US tax payers expense to damage another.

And that's where your ignorance shines brightest. Maybe you should learn more about what really happened, before you try to mischaracterize it.

 

[JulesMaximus]

Originally posted by: sixone
Clinton was not impeached for cheating on his wife. Anyone who says he was is either a liar or stupid.

Clinton wasn't impeached ever...

Oh, and I think the OP is confusing former president Bill Clinton (who I think was a better president than GWB...and I'm a registered republican BTW) with his wife Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton who is trying to gain support for a bid for the White House in 2008.

 

[MmmSkyscraper]

Originally posted by: Feldenak

Originally posted by: krunchykrome
Why is it that Eurpoeans are always b!tching about Americans?

Jealousy.

Yeah, we've already had that one although you r00l at teh spelling.

 

[ElFenix]

Originally posted by: MmmSkyscraper

Originally posted by: spidey07
Hey!

Africa has lions, so they're cool.

Yeah, lions pwn.

Europe has me, so I make up for all the damn foolishness up in here. Kinda. Well, not the French obviously...

at least we can all agree on the french.

i really hope you brits end up in charge of the EU, if it's the french then it'll be an EU for the benefit of france and no one else

 

[illusion88]

Originally posted by: locutus12
in 20 years the USA will no longer be the worlds economic driving power, it will no longer be the worlds richest country, and it will no longer be the most affluent country and eventually its military will be surpassed in size and technology. the Chinese, a communist country, will have successfully overtaken the USA in terms of economics, and with the massive workforce to back them up, it is doubtful anyone will be able to top them for a very long time.

Wake up America, the world is changing, the western world needs you need to change with it.

China very well could be the next superpower because of it's workforce. But having alot of laborers was never Americas strong point, innovation is. We are innovators. Our ability to overcome challenges (such has a smaller workforce) will always put us one step ahead of competitors.

 

[So]

Ya know what? I'm not going to write a long and thoughtful post but let me summarize:

1. There is some truth and real value to what you said in the OP.
2. The way you ended it was unnecessarily vitriolic and will stop people from considering the value in the first part
3. You are missing out on some other important factors.

Now, nobody is going to read this anyway in the impending flamewar, so mods, LOCK THIS UP.

 

[ElFenix]

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Clinton wasn't impeached ever...

you fail at high school civics!

 

[Feldenak]

Originally posted by: MmmSkyscraper

Originally posted by: Feldenak

Originally posted by: krunchykrome
Why is it that Eurpoeans are always b!tching about Americans?

Jealousy.

Yeah, we've already had that one although you r00l at teh spelling.

That's what I get for not reading ahead.

 

[spidey07]

What confuses me is how lazy europeans are.

"I'm on holiday"

bs - get back to work you lazy bum.

 

[RichUK]

No comment

 

[illusion88]

Originally posted by: locutus12

Originally posted by: ScottFern
Because Brits have such a well adjusted view of America. Did anyone else see the latest Top Gear video? I don't think Clarkson could possibly bash the US anymore.

But I am sure I could find some uneducated Brits if I went to an economically poor section of England, tape it and say this is how all British people act.

so let me get this straight, im trying to debate the modern american political system and your trying to counter that with an example of a biggoted british TV presenter...

Originally posted by: sixone
Clinton was not impeached for cheating on his wife. Anyone who says he was is either a liar or stupid.

i never said he was impeached :/ i said they tried, i was using it as an example of a wast of time and resources and a classic example of one political side clutching at straws at the US tax payers expense to damage another.

They didn't try to impeach him because of what he did with that woman. They impeached him because he lied under oath. The difference can be measured in miles....